Video Of the S40R GT3071R Tubular Manifold ..........

[burritasvt]

I was able to get a video together for the new kit the car is off to the dyno which will be three week to get there. The car BSR tune only allows the car to run 7 psi in first, 8 psi second and 9.5 psi in third, fourth and fith etc so the car but I can tell you that the bigger turbo more efficeint makes a huge difference compared to the stock turbo The car no longers fall on its face at top-end the power is definitly felt through the seat of your pants and wow the sound is tenfolds better than stock. Enjoy the video

it take awhile for them to approve the video too

http://videos.streetfire.net/v...0.htm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tf2k8UDH_SI

non-musical for most
http://videos.streetfire.net/v...3.htm


Modified by burritasvt at 6:36 PM 10-8-2008

[mattdoc]

Sounds nice. I'd love to hear a video taken from the outside of the car, and have the car drive away from the camera.

Do you have any tuning plans for the future?

(Why does it take 3 weeks to get a dyno run?)

[s40boy]

And no music when your trying to hear the new turbo... Could barely hear the car! Looks pretty sick though!

[turboah]

^ +1... do u have the ver of the video that doesn't have that music playin in the back?

[burritasvt]

I am sorry I completely forgot about you guys who are into the sounds too I was showing the acceleration of the car.

I am still puzzled how Bell was able to go to 15 psi when this car is the same one that they tested with the exact same tune. As soon as I add boost the PCM starts retarding spark and adding fuel and will go into reduced performance mode if you go to 15 psi. Especailly in 1st and 2nd gear because these two gears the pcm pulls boost for the tranny I was told. I will test the boost levels on the dyno and the car has to go 2400 miles by truck where my fabricator will remove the kit with me and make any adjustments if needed. The car will be dynoed before remove the kit to make the 321 SS headers............

[PasS40ion]

Is it an AWD model?

And it says the kit is expected to be in production in January is that true?

And what exactly is included?

[mcevoya]

Yes I do have plans for the future. thanks to Joey and this turbo kit once the car gets back into my hands I plan on up grading the fuel system and going eithier a complete stand alone engine management system or having rica help me out after I do a few more fine adjustments. I want to to get this car to push the 400 range and than to the extreme of 600 or more. So I will be upgrading the internals and re-build the engine. This will be all in steps though. I want to make the most of what I have on the car right now. So the next big step in fuel manangement and fine tuning to make the most of the turbo.

[burritasvt]

Yes it is AWD model and will fit FWD also

kit includes:

GT3071R Garrett
Turbine housing .96 internal wastegate
321 SS coated headers
3" SS downpipe w/ Ceramic High flo cat
SS polished intake piping
black vibrant or samaco hoses
K&N Filter
brackets, bolts, oil lines, coolant hoses
most hoses are braided AN fittings
Samaco BOV vented

[volvos40t5]

will it work with the automatic transmission?

[AWDbabyR]

with that BSR, can you log in and adjust fuel curves and timing maps?

[burritasvt]

honestly I cannot see why it wouldn't work on ATX because AWD models are really crammed bad so I think so want to try I will refund your money if it doesn't fit..........

[mattdoc]

The transmission is to the right side of the engine as you look at it from the front of the car, right? If that's correct, then the space behind the engine will still be available for a manifold/turbo. If you run a tube and filter down towards the transmission side of the engine for your intake, there could be interference there.
Do you have any pics showing the kit installed? Someone with an auto-box could compare to his engine bay, top and bottom, for clearance.

Sounds like you have compressed air finding its way back through the turbo in that clip (now that there's no music covering it up). Was the BOV not installed/set up yet? I had that same noise when I lost a vacuum connection from the intake manifold to the TCV.

[burritasvt]

Yes I have a BOV you can't hear it with the wind but it really is loud outside the car and no I don't have compressor stalling at all. The Samco has a light spring in it at the moment seems to work very well.

[volvos40t5]

i meant to say will it be too much power for an automatic? all auto geartronics and torque limiters on 1st and 2nd

[mattdoc]

I asked about the sound because I had the same sound when a vacuum/boost hose popped off its nipple fitting at the intake manifold... How else do you explain that sound at throttle release?

You can hear it in a video I took at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJH3UB-u-ZQ

[cicatrizdare]

Quote, originally posted by volvos40t5 »

i meant to say will it be too much power for an automatic? all auto geartronics and torque limiters on 1st and 2nd

Youll need a tune anyway, and you can get the tq limiter removed when you get the tune.

[volvos60t5x]

Quote, originally posted by AWDbabyR »

with that BSR, can you log in and adjust fuel curves and timing maps?

bsr

[AWDbabyR]

Quote, originally posted by volvos60t5x »

bsr

yes bsr?

9 psi isnt even in that turbo's efficency range...

If you look at the compressor maps and such...youll see that you need alot more than 9 psi to be efficient.

you should probably be at ~15 psi area. make excellent power and torque.

if you scared about that, throw on like a meth/water injection kit (aquamist for example) and tune with that. That will keep temperatures low in the combustion chambers.

If you have some type of management, like i was talking about adjusting the fuel curves and timing maps, you can tune for 15 psi and be reliable.

[burritasvt]

The customer will be going way beyond the 400hp when he either gets someone to reflash the PCM or do a standalone. The turbo may be somewhat out of its effeicency range but I noticed the car drives so smooth compared to stock and yes I can order the GT28RS model for those who want to stay stock boost.

[AWDbabyR]

Quote, originally posted by burritasvt »

The customer will be going way beyond the 400hp when he either gets someone to reflash the PCM or do a standalone. The turbo may be somewhat out of its effeicency range but I noticed the car drives so smooth compared to stock and yes I can order the GT28RS model for those who want to stay stock boost.

lol, ok good.

because seriously, thats a joke..

30r on 9psi? LOL

[mcevoya]

Quote, originally posted by AWDbabyR »

lol, ok good. because seriously, thats a joke.. 30r on 9psi? LOL

like I mentioned before I have several things in store for the car. I am working on some engine management and other things for the car. I have to do fine tuning when I get the car back in my hands and I will probably go complete standalone. We will see though.

Aaron

[AWDbabyR]

Quote, originally posted by mcevoya »

like I mentioned before I have several things in store for the car. I am working on some engine management and other things for the car. I have to do fine tuning when I get the car back in my hands and I will probably go complete standalone. We will see though. Aaron

what are your standalone options?

[mcevoya]

well there are alot of different options out. so I have to do alot of research and I am also thinking of contacting some tuning companies and seeing if we can do a custome tune option.

here are some websites of some i might be looking into:

http://www.gotechefi.com/ecus/gotechprox.html

http://www.motec.com.au/ (this one I have a dealer right in portland that can help me out )

http://www.hydraems.com/

http://www.electromotive-inc.c....html

http://www.haltech.com/

[AWDbabyR]

Quote, originally posted by mcevoya »

well there are alot of different options out. so I have to do alot of research and I am also thinking of contacting some tuning companies and seeing if we can do a custome tune option. here are some websites of some i might be looking into: http://www.gotechefi.com/ecus/gotechprox.html http://www.motec.com.au/ (this one I have a dealer right in portland that can help me out ) http://www.hydraems.com/ http://www.electromotive-inc.c....html http://www.haltech.com/

Ive had personal experience with both Hydra and Haltech...

Preferably, i would choose Hydra.

The user interface and tuning is alot easier than Haltech.

Motec is overated, btw.

[mcevoya]

Well after some research and serious thinking I have decided to have Rica over in the UK help me out with a custom tune for the car. It is just a lot easier for them to do it and the ppc units are unbeatable.


Modified by mcevoya at 6:44 AM 10-23-2008

[burritasvt]

well we were able to get it to the dyno at the last minute the dyno was a mustang dyno load bearing dyno used more for tuning. As most know it is 10% less on number where the dynojet is more accurate across the regions but we still made more power 243whp and I was suppose to get the dyno sheet emailed to me because there printer was down.....

The car ran real lean 14.1 to 13.1 and there was huge dip in the graph because the ECM was pulling spark bad so the car couldn't make the power it should at all. The car was detonating an the ecm was pulling back power dramatically so we shut it down the BSR tune was way off bad. So now the customer has to find some tuning solutions we made the pass on 9 psi which is very respectful untuned and retarded timing. The dyno numbers on a dynojet would have made 255whp based on all my past experiences with the dynos but we were out of choices since four dynoes were broken up here. This dyno was very helpful to see the that the car was in the danger zone on tuning so once we order the new tuning we will hit the dynojet next time. I will post the dyno if I ever get it

[mattdoc]

RICA's GT2871R tune will be a lot closer than the BSR stock turbo program. See http://www.rica-uk.com/specialrica.aspx.

They will then make a custom tune if you log a dyno run (I think they need RPM, speed, boost, and a/f ratio). If you go through EST, program changes are free, but I don't know if that covers a custom tune.

[mcevoya]

Maybe I didnt make myself clear Mattdoc. I am already in the process of working with Rica as I stated earlier with my past post. Rica is in the process of making a tune for the GT3071R as we speak. I also am trying to see if I get some data logging done if they can just make me a complete custom tune.

thanks

Aaron

[mattdoc]

That's great: I'm glad someone is spearheading this upgrade. I thought you had decided to go with RICA - I didn't know you were dealing with them already. Are you dealing with them directly, or going through a shop (which one?)?

I'm anxious to see dyno results with a proper tune.

[mcevoya]

Quote, originally posted by mattdoc »

That's great: I'm glad someone is spearheading this upgrade. I thought you had decided to go with RICA - I didn't know you were dealing with them already. Are you dealing with them directly, or going through a shop (which one?)? I'm anxious to see dyno results with a proper tune.

Yeah I am still in the process with dealing with Rica. I still am debating though because Rica said that they are in the process right now working on a tune for the same turbo but I am still puzzled how they are doing it without upgrading the fuel system. I am waiting for a response from them in UK. I am dealing with them directly because this is the only way I can. I am trying to see if they are wanting to help me do a complete custom tune because I dont want to stick with the stock fuel system and ignition system. We will see though.

Thanks

Aaron

[mcevoya]

Ok Rica Got a tune for me now and its on its way I hope to have it by the end of this week. This will be the base tune and than after my next dyno run we will see where we are at. My car is right now in peaces because they are doing the final process in the turbo kit. Hopefully it will be done this week and than I can get some of the body work and interior done.