Some Guidelines

[Shomare]

Ok guys and gals. If you're a car nut like me you've probably sat around someone's garage or shop, drinking beer and shooting the poop.

You talk about life, love, politics, religion and occasionally, even cars.

You keep your conversations civil because your all sitting and standing around and you know that if you smart off, someone might take offense and bash your teeth in.

As a rule of thumb, why not treat the OT like a virtual garage / shop, and show the same common respect toward one another we would if we were gathered together.

Otherwise, lets stop the verbal attacks, baiting, and name calling. If would get you punched in the face in the real world, it will get deleted here. If it would get you punched in the face and thrown out of the shop, it will get you banned here.


Modified by Shomare at 8:26 AM 5-1-2009

[JRL]

It's been this way much longer than you or I have been here.
When a post gets TOO out of control it gets deleted, but there has ALWAYS been a very wide latitude in the OT so I suggest you ask Chris before you do something really dumb!
(I do agree with you about the name calling though)

[Shomare]

I have spoken with Chris.

Regardless of how long its gone on, it's time for a change.

I'd like to encourage people to be as civil as possible.

I'll try to keep from doing anything real dumb!

[2k2S80t6]

Quote, originally posted by Shomare »

You keep your conversations civil because your all sitting and standing around and you know that if you smart off, someone might take offense and bash your teeth in.

What sort of cavemen do you hang out with? My friends have thick skin and a sense of humor. They aren't looking to violently attack a friend over words.

[Shomare]

Not cavemen, just people with a healthy respect for each other. People who would not be blatantly offensive and antagonistic toward each other.

I think some members take liberties with the anonymity of the internet and really go at each other unnecessarily.

Let's all just take a wait and see approach. I think that members are capable of being more civil toward each other than they have been in the past.

[JRL]

Well goodbye OT, if this is the "new way"

[universityvolvoOSD]

NO! Jim...don't leave!! Who will correct our spelling?

[Shomare]

I wouldn't say it's goodbye JRL just a bit kinder and gentler

For review, here's the SS Big Rules:

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[gdill2]

My denial firms even more each time proof of my being a jerk...

George Dill

[JRL]

Quote, originally posted by universityvolvoOSD »

NO! Jim...don't leave!! Who will correct our spelling?

I meant the OT will be gone (not many will participate). I don't usually spend a hell of a lot of time there anyway, (well not until the BOOBS thread was in bloom ).
It's a unique forum with some "unique" members.
If it's neuterized to the point of it being "G" rated, many will just not sign in anymore as it will have lost its uniqueness.

[JRL]

Quote, originally posted by Shomare »

I wouldn't say it's goodbye JRL just a bit kinder and gentler

You really don't get it, NO ONE WANTS THAT, it's a unique forum!
I thought we lived in a democracy, you remember that, don't you?
It's what the PEOPLE want, not what YOU want

[Shomare]

Swedespeed isn't a democracy it's a forum. A forum with some basic guidelines to adhere to and abide by.

Give it some time JRL. Your feedback is much appreciated.

[JRL]

Quote, originally posted by Shomare »

Swedespeed isn't a democracy it's a forum. A forum with some basic guidelines to adhere to and abide by.

You still don't get it (and I said nothing about breaking the rules, most all of the time the "basic guidelines" are adhered to.
What I said was, it's a democracy (the US of A) and if the OT forum becomes overly heavy handed by you, WE have the choice just to go somewhere else or not at all.
Either way, SS looses (its people).

[Shomare]

I think you'll find that I won't be "heavy handed" and as such, I don't think we'll loose you or anyone else but time will tell.


Modified by Shomare at 4:19 PM 5-1-2009

[JRL]

Quote, originally posted by Shomare »

I think you'll find that I won't be "heavy handed" and as such, I don't think we'll loose you or anyone else but time will tell. Modified by Shomare at 4:19 PM 5-1-2009

If you're a real mod why is "modified by Shomare" in your last post?

When I was a mod years ago, that never showed up in one of my posts.

[Shomare]

I don't know JRL, maybe some things have changed.

I know that if I make an edit, that's what shows up.

[gdill2]

Edit this post.

Just did.

And again.

George Dill

[gdill2]

Quote, originally posted by JRL »

If you're a real mod why is "modified by Shomare" in your last post? When I was a mod years ago, that never showed up in one of my posts.

I edited my above post twice with no note showing but when I edit here it does...

http://forums.swedespeed.com/zerothread?id=117971

George Dill

[Shomare]

Depends on how long you wait to edit. If I notice a mistake and go back right away, no notice of modification appears.

If it's or 10 min after the post appears, notice of edit appears at the bottom of post.

[2k2S80t6]

Quote, originally posted by Shomare »

Depends on how long you wait to edit. If I notice a mistake and go back right away, no notice of modification appears. If it's or 10 min after the post appears, notice of edit appears at the bottom of post.

The OTF has been fun and just fine as is for the years I have been here. Mods stepped in when needed (and when not) but it has worked. Like JRL said, if neutered look for a potential migration to another forum.

[Shomare]

The member doth protest too much

[JRL]

Quote, originally posted by Shomare »

I don't know JRL, maybe some things have changed. I know that if I make an edit, that's what shows up.

Not supposed to

[Shomare]

Probably just a preference setting that needs to be tweaked.

[crimnlmnded]

I think we should leave the OT to us loons and thats that. Most people come here to vent, and if someone actually takes offense here , we are all adults and should be able to handle it amongst ourselves.
Whether through flaming, name calling or pointless posts. I have yet to see anyone get physical here, and if it should happen( which I doubt it will ever get to that point, too many of these guys are afraid to come fight me, LOL) then so be it. I know I won't run to the cops or any authorities, or a Mod, for help.

I believe someone posted once " Surrender the OT Forum to us Loonies"! That is what should be done. Just my opinion, perhaps we should get a poll/vote going and see! Even though SS is a privstely owned entity and has rules, as members though we should have some say!

[gdill2]

Quote, originally posted by crimnlmnded »

I think we should leave the OT to us loons and thats that. Most people come here to vent, and if someone actually takes offense here , we are all adults and should be able to handle it amongst ourselves... I believe someone posted once " Surrender the OT Forum to us Loonies"! That is what should be done.

http://forums.swedespeed.com/zerothread?id=46016

George Dill

[wadestone13]

thanks for posting this
cheers

[mateojordan45]

lol