Just cuz there's so much talk, here is one pic showing all the lights individually. I noticed that the foglights can be turned on with the DRL's, with the lights in the OFF (O) position. Cool. Note that DRL's can only be activated at night if you shine a flashlight at the detector under the climate control.
Rich
2004 V70R Ti/Ata 6M
(Jeep GC, 996tt, 968 Cab, 125 shifter kart and a Rotax)
Thanks for these pics.From your pics I would say in the order of being able to see while driving at night -- first being the best and last being the worst is
1. Low beam only (the best)
2. Fog lights only
3. High beam only
4. DRLs only (the worst)Do others agree with this order?
Hmmmm -- High beam is only marginally better than DRLs -- this is quite illuminating (pun intended).
The low beams are awesome. The fogs project too low to be run alone unless it is actually foggy or snowy. The high beam picture is just that, a dark photo taken with a digital camera. I think the high beams work great, but I would like to put a 100W driving bulb into the DRL lens and be able to use them with the high beams.
Rich
2004 V70R Ti/Ata 6M
(Jeep GC, 996tt, 968 Cab, 125 shifter kart and a Rotax)
Quote, originally posted by FineProperty » The high beam picture is just that, a dark photo taken with a digital camera. I think the high beams work great, but I would like to put a 100W driving bulb into the DRL lens and be able to use them with the high beams. The "High Beam" pic shows almost complete darkness -- how can you say they work great when they show less visible road than low beam. I have to assume the "High Beam" pic is simply not showing me what your naked eye sees -- and I can believe this as my High beams show a much better illumination of the road than your "High Beam" pic does.
Don't misunderstand me -- I really do appreciate you taking the time and effort to post these pics and your comments and helpful advice on fog light upgrades etc.
Quote, originally posted by FineProperty » ...but I would like to put a 100W driving bulb into the DRL lens and be able to use them with the high beams. Now this could be my solution to improve the R's high beam performance. I like this approach. Sooooo, how do we proceed with this suggestion to make it possible for us R fellas that can't see at night?
I updated the photo to reflect the actual light output. Working on my laptop last night didn't give me the ability to see what you might see on different screens. Hope this helps.
As for replacing the DRL's with driving lights, I'm hoping the Euro light setup has an interchangable lens with our US models. Do they use DRL in Europe? Is that a High Beam for Johann?
Rich
2004 V70R Ti/Ata 6M
(Jeep GC, 996tt, 968 Cab, 125 shifter kart and a Rotax)
I HATE DRLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Does someone know how to totally disable the drls?
It is apparently (currently) impossible. The DRLs have to be deactivated by the Volvo computer interface, and the computer doesn't provide an option to disable them. I think one of the optionas was to burn the Xenons instead of the dedicated DRLs, but you can do that just by turning the light switch all the way on.On the other hand, you could turn the light switch to the middle position which would disable the DRLs, but would turn on the parking lights. Of course, that's illegal in most states.
Quote, originally posted by wfaulk » the computer doesn't provide an option to disable them.
Hmmmm...I was under the impression that VADIS codes deactivate the DRL light. Then a jumper wire and relay could be installed to the DRL from the high beam power.
Quote »
but would turn on the parking lights. Of course, that's illegal in most states.The Parking lights and dash lights are on all the time now, with the DRL's. There is currently no way to drive with lights off.
Rich
2004 V70R Ti/Ata 6M
(Jeep GC, 996tt, 968 Cab, 125 shifter kart and a Rotax)
Quote, originally posted by FineProperty » I was under the impression that VADIS codes deactivate the DRL light. That's what I meant. At least, I think so. Their computer that attached to the under-dash OBD port wouldn't allow them to turn them off entirely.
Quote, originally posted by FineProperty » The Parking lights and dash lights are on all the time now, with the DRL's. I can't swear about the dash lights, as it's hard to tell if they're on during the day, but my parking lights are not on when just the DRLs are on. The only external lights on are the two inset lights next to the normal headlights.
I never drive with my DRL's on. I always have them on the parking lights (with my fogs on). It would be cool if we could program the DRL's to turn on with the High Beams.
Quote, originally posted by FineProperty » I updated the photo to reflect the actual light output. Working on my laptop last night didn't give me the ability to see what you might see on different screens. Hope this helps.
As for replacing the DRL's with driving lights, I'm hoping the Euro light setup has an interchangable lens with our US models. Do they use DRL in Europe? Is that a High Beam for Johann?Thanks very much -- I can breath now -- Hmmm, I mean I can see now.
I have my headlights adjusted UP to their max position. Any further UP adjustment of the screw simply freewheels as it must be at it's limit. I will play some more tonight with them to see if I can improve things for myself.
I will say that I'm a little concerned at this point with the 3M Mylar 40 mil protection film I have had installed on my headlights and foglights in that I sure hope the Mylar isn't influencing my head/fog light's performance. They supposedly have no influence but if I cannot obtain the results your pics show for high/low performance I'm going to be focused on the Mylar as being a probable cause of poor head/fog light performance (actually fogs are kinda OK, but the heads are abysmal compared to yours).
Thanks agian for enhancing your High Beam pic.
I'll post back my results later tonight.
Quote, originally posted by wfaulk » The DRLs have to be deactivated by the Volvo computer interface, and the computer doesn't provide an option to disable them.
My mechanic said he could turn them off through the computer. Also, the owner's manual states: "Volvo recommends the use of daytime running lights. If, however, you would prefer to have these lights turned off (USA only), please consult your Volvo retailer."Seems that the DRL headlights would never be used if they were turned off. Too bad there is not a switch to turn them on yourself like in the first generation XC.
Quote, originally posted by XC-Ski »
Seems that the DRL headlights would never be used if they were turned off. Too bad there is not a switch to turn them on yourself like in the first generation XC.With a little wiring know how, you could put a relay in and have them turn on with the high beams (or foglights, or parking lights).
Rich
2004 V70R Ti/Ata 6M
(Jeep GC, 996tt, 968 Cab, 125 shifter kart and a Rotax)
Why don't you like running the DRL's? I find it more convenient than the older set-up, as I can just leave the switch in the DRL position and the bi-xenons will automatically come on at night or in a parking garage. Volvo's ALWAYS run DRL's... kind of a Volvo safety trademarkThe only thing odd I find is the difference in the color of light from the halogen fogs. They should have used a hyper-white bulb to match the xenons.
Quote, originally posted by mac » The only thing odd I find is the difference in the color of light from the halogen fogs. They should have used a hyper-white bulb to match the xenons. Yeah, I like the look of the new bulbs...
http://forums.swedespeed.com/zerothread?id=12190Yes, both are installed now.
I just looked at the back of the DRL socket and couldn't quite make out how the bulb comes out. The socket is held in by 3 torx screws, but the bulb must unscrew, and I just didn't try hard enough. I will look closer when I have access to a flashlight. I'll note that the wiring runs inside the housing and it likely won't take much more heat from a higher wattage DRL bulb.
Rich
2004 V70R Ti/Ata 6M
(Jeep GC, 996tt, 968 Cab, 125 shifter kart and a Rotax)
Where is the detector under the climate control?
Quote, originally posted by XC90 Black Saphire » Where is the detector under the climate control?
It's the very small rectangular window with a darkened plastic inset just below the bottom auto climate air flow control button. It probably measures 1/8" x 3/16".
Perhaps this is a little out of date now, but I'm curious about the different DRL set up with xenons. I took delivery 2 weeks ago of a V70 in Switzerland (where I live, and where the car is registered). I had requested DRL disactivated, and, sure enough, it came with them activated. DRL, on my car at least, are low beam xenons. The "inner" (halogen) lights are used as "flash to pass" - high beam is not available.If I turn headlights on, and flash to pass, the xenons flip up to high beam, and the halogens are in active. I understood that the N.A. DRLs were the halogens.
But makes you think that software must permit you to run the halogens as supplementary driving (high beam) lights - no?
what kind of lens does the inner Halogen have?
Peter:Can you take a pic of the front of your car showing the lights and post back? thanks
I think the solution for our problems is to obtain the European lights. Here's a link to the Swedish version as a comparision. The high-beam halogen lights are clearly visible.
If you don't want DRL why not either remove the bulb or cover one of the contacts so it won't lite. You could tap the bulb to break the filament. I'm sure it would give you a warning in the info center but at least you'd have (or not have) the DRL your way.
Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to slide in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy ****, what a ride!"
Even the warning light can be fixed by changing the sensor shunt and fooling the ECU.Lee: please send me your e-mail address
I like that -- I want that light combination -- does anyone have advice on how to obtain this European headlight config for USA '04 R models?
I would be open to a group buy too. It's not so much that I dislike the DRLs (I do, but that's not important now), but I'd rather figure out how to get those Halogen lights to work with the high beams...
JimLill...I think you have the wiring diagram for the R. Is there a lead that is hot only when Highbeams are on? And are the leads into the DRL's connected to Vadis, or can they be cut? If you cut the leads to the DRL and put a relay in using the hot lead from the highbeams, a Euro lens, and an 85W (or 100 or whatever) bulb, you'd be set. Quite easy actually.If your diagram isn't quite accurate, I can check wires on the car with my tester.
Rich
2004 V70R Ti/Ata 6M
(Jeep GC, 996tt, 968 Cab, 125 shifter kart and a Rotax)
I'll work up a circuit when I get home. It'll fool the ECU too...
Maybe Johann can get us the part number for his halogen light...I'm assuming EU does not have DRL's in that spot.
Rich
2004 V70R Ti/Ata 6M
(Jeep GC, 996tt, 968 Cab, 125 shifter kart and a Rotax)
Something to keep in mind...US light units are complete with all internal and external lens under a single assembly part number.
Euro units has a housing part number and lens part number available as separate pieces. It's hard to tell what interchanges..
I may have to take mine apart this weekend.
Rich
2004 V70R Ti/Ata 6M
(Jeep GC, 996tt, 968 Cab, 125 shifter kart and a Rotax)
What ever is the solution count me in gents please.gb
Well, I REALLY got it wrong. Took some snaps last night and they confirm what others say. On my Eurospec car, on high beam with lights on the halogens are lit. This is what illuminates the near distance that is "cut-off" on the pictures at the beginning of this thread. On DRL, high beam cannot be activated, other than to flash. Flash uses halogens AND Xenons on high beam. So this must be something easily correctable for those of you disappointed with the cut off on high beam.
Modified by PeterM at 8:04 AM 9-10-2003
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