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      Best t5 inlet manifold upgrade

      I'm interested in finding out which inlet manifold is the best for the T5/ST 225 (they have the same engine). Right now I'm leaning towards pumaspeed because it looks almost stock and yet claims to have a balanced flow pattern, but it also seems that the boxer designs (elevate/Auto Specialist) would increase low-mid range power due to the increased plenum size for immediate on-demand supply. Another consideration is that I will be keeping the stock air box so whichever inlet needs to fit. Thoughts?
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      Pumaspeed, is that the same as Anembo? I know a few people with this manifold and they love it.
      Not sure if I'm sold on the fact that it's a two piece design, but it looks cool!


      I've seen the AS plenum end up on a few T5s as well, which people like. However, this will not fit with the stock airbox and the inlet opening is ~67mm, so not a good matching with the Porsche throttle body or the stock throttle body.


      I like my Elevate unit, but again... This was purchased before there were a lot of known options. It's a definite improvement, can't claim if it's the best improvement on the market though. But you can purchase the Elevate unit with no branding, so it looks stock. You could even have it refinished in textured black so California inspections probably wouldn't notice unless they saw two T5s back to back.


      It appears as if your hunt for a quality Stage 1 tune has turned into a quest for all the upgrades.

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      I've been leaning toward AS, the depressed GBP makes shopping in the UK more fun. The inlet diameter is a non-issue for the Porsche TB: break out the die grinder.

      Unfortunately, I have yet to find legitimate flow numbers from any manufacturer. Then again, I haven't looked especially hard on the Focus ST/RS forums.
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      http://www.pumaspeed.com/product-Pum...ST225_1165.jsp

      Good point about the UK. Maybe I should jump on the pumaspeed inlet - at 400 USD, that's a screaming deal. And hey, I'm just laying the framework for the stage 1 tune. Starting with the bolt-ons first and working my way to the tune. I should be getting my new intercooler tonight (theh XC60 IC) and then the next project is to fab up a new 2.5" turbo hardpipe to match the intercooler inlet - assuming the inlet is 2.5" that is. Though, the routing gets tricky with AWD. I'm also fighting to resolve some minor residual resonation with the new catback. considering micro post-muffler resonators at this point; or, exhaust dampers in my quest to get performance and oem sound. Next step is dynomatting the trunk area to see if that solves it.
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      I saw that just came out. I wish they would publish their "Fully Flow tested against all the competition to give 6% more flow. at 7000 revs and 20 PSI" data....
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      I guess one could extrapolate that if it flows "6% over competitive at 7k rpm" that it would flow +6% more than competition at lower rpm, but maybe not. It seems the smaller plenum would have a better high rpm flow, but possibly a worse low speed flow over the larger plenums. I mean, all the options are probably better than oem all the way round the rpm ranges.
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      Definitely following. While I do appreciate the separatability of the Anembo, it's not worth the $1600 I saw it for.

      Elevate is what $700

      The PumaSpeed one is a steal of a deal.
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      Yes it is. I plan on ordering the raw alloy pumaspeed inlet. I haven't decided if it's going to be flat black or left alloy - which do you think looks more OEM?
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      Eh. No data. Blah.
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      If I could get a blank one that didn't say pumaspeed I'd order it


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      Quote Originally Posted by thefisch33 View Post
      If I could get a blank one that didn't say pumaspeed I'd order it


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      BUY NOW!

      http://www.pumaspeed.com/product-Pum...Logo_15685.jsp
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      Yup, you can get one in raw alloy without a logo. For stealth/CA smog, it's perfect.
      And yeah, I wish someone would pony up and at least throw some data at us concerning the inlets. Best data we got is Elevate. Though, that inlet appears to be a rebadged Mountune St225 inlet. Or maybe it's vica versa, not sure.
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      Quote Originally Posted by mercdude View Post
      ...And yeah, I wish someone would pony up and at least throw some data at us concerning the inlets. Best data we got is Elevate...
      Agreed.

      Quote Originally Posted by mercdude View Post
      ....Though, that inlet appears to be a rebadged Mountune St225 inlet...
      Yup, Mountune made it first.
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      Wrinkled black is sexy - match my snabb turbo pipe. I would buy this today if I hadn't bought a used Elevate upper and lower manifold already.
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      Since I'm looking to upgrade the entire intake/charge path, I just started looking at the Snabb turbo inlet pipe. How do you like it? Make a difference? Any objectionable sound issues?
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      Quote Originally Posted by S40 R-by-design View Post
      Wrinkled black is sexy - match my snabb turbo pipe. I would buy this today if I hadn't bought a used Elevate upper and lower manifold already.
      Which one do you have? Link? I found this guy looks pretty close but not sure:
      http://www.snabb.us/P2-Upper-Charge-Air-Pipe_p_162.html
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      Quote Originally Posted by avenger09123 View Post
      Which one do you have? Link? I found this guy looks pretty close but not sure:
      http://www.snabb.us/P2-Upper-Charge-Air-Pipe_p_162.html
      He prob has this one:
      http://www.snabb.us/Performance-Fres...ack_p_210.html

      I have the same- with the black couplers you can't tell it's an aftermarket part unless you're very familiar with the B5254T3
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      Quote Originally Posted by T5CO View Post
      He prob has this one:
      http://www.snabb.us/Performance-Fres...ack_p_210.html

      I have the same- with the black couplers you can't tell it's an aftermarket part unless you're very familiar with the B5254T3
      Indeed TSCO is right. So sexy looking. I like it Mercdude, performance wise on it's own probably doesn't do much but with other complimentary mods it will only benefit airflow. Secondly, it looks amazing in my opinion. Maybe an ever so slightly increase in noise but hardly noticeable if at all.
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      Let me ask you guys this: do you think that the aluminum turbo inlet pipe absorbs exhaust/engine bay heat readily and heat soaks? As in, would it make sense to wrap the inlet pipe with an insulator? I ran across this post that indicated he found 15 degree difference http://forums.swedespeed.com/showthr...-today/page147 - he did the same thing as this guy: http://forums.swedespeed.com/showthr...pics-of-my-S40
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      Quote Originally Posted by MyNameIdeasWereTaken View Post
      Pumaspeed, is that the same as Anembo? I know a few people with this manifold and they love it.
      Not sure if I'm sold on the fact that it's a two piece design, but it looks cool!


      I've seen the AS plenum end up on a few T5s as well, which people like. However, this will not fit with the stock airbox and the inlet opening is ~67mm, so not a good matching with the Porsche throttle body or the stock throttle body.


      I like my Elevate unit, but again... This was purchased before there were a lot of known options. It's a definite improvement, can't claim if it's the best improvement on the market though. But you can purchase the Elevate unit with no branding, so it looks stock. You could even have it refinished in textured black so California inspections probably wouldn't notice unless they saw two T5s back to back.


      It appears as if your hunt for a quality Stage 1 tune has turned into a quest for all the upgrades.
      On another note...what's the best way to paint the engine covers? This look legit


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      On another note...what's the best way to paint the engine covers? This look legit
      Professionally... I've never seen a home paint job hold up to the flexing that the engine covers experience when removed for spark plug and timing belt changes.
      Even the Elevate C30 (seen above) has some cracking around the edges now.

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      You can get pretty close with small pieces like that - probably adhesion promoter, primer, color coat, and 2k clear coat. IMO, not worth it, but to each their own.
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      The problem is that there are a bunch of seams, including the ring around around the oil cap, that are rubber. I had a few painted engine covers that I put in my S40, they were all fine for about 6 months and then they started cracking along those rubber seams.

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      Has anyone attempted to dye it? There's a place in Denver that dyes plastics and urethanes in a tank


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      Quote Originally Posted by thefisch33 View Post
      Has anyone attempted to dye it? There's a place in Denver that dyes plastics and urethanes in a tank


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      Manifolds are neither, they're metal.
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      The plastic engine covers not the metal


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      Will this Pumasweed manifold fit a 2011 Volvo S40 T5? The Elevate one is around $800 and not worth it..

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      It should fit any t5 engine. The engines haven't changed for the p1


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      I expect to be installing a new pumaspeed inlet later this week, I'll post some pictures.
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      Quote Originally Posted by mercdude View Post
      I expect to be installing a new pumaspeed inlet later this week, I'll post some pictures.
      Awesome.

      You should find a local shop with a flowbench and do a comparison....or back to back dyno runs.
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      Yeah well... in a perfect world I would. But that would eat into my mod'ing budget (next up is an improved IC with a custom 2.5" IC hardpipe). Fear not, I will post SOP dyno results
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      Quote Originally Posted by mercdude View Post
      ...Fear not, I will post SOP dyno results
      Surprisingly, the results from the SOTP dyno are typically positive when the mass of the wallet has been reduced.
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      Ha! Yeah, but I think it's fair to say that you can tell if there's an improvement by SOP. If you can't tell there's a difference, the improvement probably wasn't a significant performance increase. I expect that a lot of the IC related stuff I plan on doing won't cause a noticeable improvement until there's a tune (increased boost); or, the effects will be only be noticeable when paired with an inlet change and intake pipe, etc etc.

      Besides stage 0 prep, the only mods I've made are a custom 2.5" mandrel bent catback (quiet) system. Via SOP, that change has increased the mid - upper power band fairly significantly (maybe 10%). More than I thought it would have, actually. I've done lots of exhaust modification in the past and this is probably the most significant change I've experienced. Maybe because it's a turbo car, I'm not sure, but it's an encouraging beginning to my P1's mods. I'm aiming for around 300bhp after catback, pumaspeed inlet, snabb intake pipe, custom 2.5" IC hardpiping, larger Volvo FMIC, and elevate tune. Realistic?
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      Turbo cars love having as little restriction post-turbo as possible.

      300 BHP on a Stage 3 tune is perfectly reasonable.....it will blow your mind too, vs. stock.
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