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      Re: DrFraserCrane's 2013 RB S60 R Design Journal Thread

      Hello Swedespeed,

      Introductory thread and post here. Introducing myself as I just purchased a 2013 CPO S60 R design in Rebel Blue. Parents both have volvos (xc70 and V60 polestar), and I was lured into the brand by their satisfaction with their vehicles.

      2013 R Design
      52k miles at purchase
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      Bought originally and maintained at same dealer through whole service history

      single photo for now, hope to grab some more soon.

      Last edited by DrFraserCrane; 04-21-2017 at 09:08 AM.

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      Nice, congrats on a great looking ride.
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      Welcome to the Rebel Blue club! It's addictive.
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      Quote Originally Posted by msmith View Post
      Nice, congrats on a great looking ride.
      thanks

      Quote Originally Posted by Veefifty T5AWD View Post
      Welcome to the Rebel Blue club! It's addictive.
      it is, my father's v60 polestar is the same color so I've had a taste of the allure.

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      Congrats! Looks great. Don't tell the other owners, but Rebel Blue is faster.

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      Congrats! Rebel blue is awesome. And no front bracket
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      Looking good
      congrats on the purchase!
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      Quote Originally Posted by chris@swedespeed View Post
      Congrats! Looks great. Don't tell the other owners, but Rebel Blue is faster.
      Quote Originally Posted by ckmack View Post
      Congrats! Rebel blue is awesome. And no front bracket
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      Looking good
      congrats on the purchase!
      thanks all, very excited the front end didn't have a drill taken to it

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      Excellent choice! Congrats and welcome!
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      Quote Originally Posted by chris@swedespeed View Post
      Congrats! Looks great. Don't tell the other owners, but Rebel Blue is faster.
      Fact

      Quote Originally Posted by DrFraserCrane View Post
      Hello Swedespeed,

      Introductory thread and post here. Introducing myself as I just purchased a 2013 CPO S60 R design in Rebel Blue. Parents both have volvos (xc70 and V60 polestar), and I was lured into the brand by their satisfaction with their vehicles.

      2013 R Design
      52k miles at purchase
      1 owner vehicle
      Bought originally and maintained at same dealer through whole service history

      single photo for now, hope to grab some more soon.

      Congrats...I get compliments on the color all the time. Brace your self

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      "I'd like some ore pictures" -someone

      added some stickers, and got 6% 3M crystalline

      _DSC8094 by Fraser Crane, on Flickr

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      _DSC8099 by Fraser Crane, on Flickr

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      Lookin' good Towson!
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      looked up your thread after you commented on mine, that thing is sweet. My is scheduled for a full detail and tint on Friday, can't wait to take some more pics.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Bmo Pete View Post
      Lookin' good Towson!
      thanks Baltimore area

      Quote Originally Posted by tmoneysju View Post
      looked up your thread after you commented on mine, that thing is sweet. My is scheduled for a full detail and tint on Friday, can't wait to take some more pics.
      thanks, mine is in need of some love with a polisher and touchup paint in some areas, but its not too bad (plus I don't feel bad about driving it if someone else chipped up the front end first).

      love the look of tint on these cars, looking forward to keeping an eye on your thread

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      by way of an update: added wheel studs from motorsport hardware




      changed pads and fluid: Porterfield R4S pads, Motul RBF600 fluid.

      Added IPD Rear Sway and endlinks.

      Took it autocrossing this Saturday:
      IMG_1471 by Jaclyn Heck, on Flickr

      IMG_1472 by Jaclyn Heck, on Flickr

      IMG_1329 by Jaclyn Heck, on Flickr



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      Nice congrats on that sweet RB... if RB was out when I bought my 12 I probably would have bought one also. It's similar to the color of my old Mach 1


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      Autocross test and tune this past weekend. Burning up the all season on the car when I bought it.

      Brake pads changed to EBC yellows up front (still porterfields in the rear) in anticipation of a Track Night in America Event at NJMP on Wednesday 4/19/17.






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      ^^what are you using to Tune?
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      Nada, the test and tune is largely to fool with settings on tire pressures, sway bars, etc (or tuning for those who have the capability/allowances within their classes)

      I have the car set up for G Street, so I have little to no adjustabilty in the class rules that can be done on the fly. Was largely seat time in the car for me, and fighting the poor all season tires

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      Quote Originally Posted by DrFraserCrane View Post
      Nada, the test and tune is largely to fool with settings on tire pressures, sway bars, etc (or tuning for those who have the capability/allowances within their classes)

      I have the car set up for G Street, so I have little to no adjustabilty in the class rules that can be done on the fly. Was largely seat time in the car for me, and fighting the poor all season tires
      Aww come on?! All seasons are great for 4 wheel power drifts!
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      Went to a SCCA Track Night in America Event at NJMP's Lightning Circuit on 4/19



      1st time with this car on track, 1st time on track for myself in about 2 years

      car setup - alignment set to 0 toe all around, HEICO VOLUTION-VII with Michelin PS2's, EBC Yellow pads, Castrol SRF brake fluid, IDP Rear Sway Bar

      Session 1 was cut short with a spin and crash, seen at end of this video:


      Session 3 also cut short with a crash, I pitted for space just before the crash happened (good timing)


      more vids on my youtube, for those who want to watch 50 minutes of track time from 2 different angles
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      Autocross this weekend at FedEx Field in the wet. this place is an ice rink when its wet.

      my best run of the day:


      gratuitous photos






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      Sweet! I can't believe I missed this. The car looks awesome.

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      Sport Edition A15's 17x8 with 245/45/17 Falken 615K+'s fitted



      got an oil analysis done



      And changed my plugs at 56k


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      Quote Originally Posted by DrFraserCrane View Post
      Sport Edition A15's 17x8 with 245/45/17 Falken 615K+'s fitted
      But why those tinny 17's? You going rallying now? I see you have the mud flaps on..
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      Quote Originally Posted by Bmo Pete View Post
      But why those tinny 17's? You going rallying now? I see you have the mud flaps on..
      Autocross wheels.

      SCCA Solo Street class rules -- allowed to go +/- 1" diameter, with +/- 7mm offset allowance, and maintain the stock wheels width (17x8 et 48 puts me just within those rules). 17x8 wheels gave me a significant weight advantage over the stock wheels (19lbs each vs. 25lbs for the stockers)

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      Ah... had a hunch. Keep us posted on your results, and good luck!
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      Quote Originally Posted by Bmo Pete View Post
      Ah... had a hunch. Keep us posted on your results, and good luck!
      results: http://live.axti.me/live/550d2f37c0b...93af8c0b0e24be

      top 10 PAX, I will take it and run.

      IMG_6742 by Jaclyn Heck, on Flickr


      then I let my GF drive it and she put it up on 3 wheels also
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      another weekend, another autocross.

      This course was rough on this car - front tires were cooked 1/2 way through the course. not at all happy with my driving this weekend.

      No setup changes since last go-round

      Best run of the day:


      some photos:

      IMG_9752 by Jaclyn Heck, on Flickr

      IMG_1058 by Jaclyn Heck, on Flickr

      IMG_9639 by Jaclyn Heck, on Flickr

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      Man I hate the nose plow on these cars! Crying for a fatter front sway and/or stiffer springs/coilovers. I'd rather manage some added understeer with the throttle than deal with the crazy dive into corners. Wouldn't help the front tires any though.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Bmo Pete View Post
      Man I hate the nose plow on these cars! Crying for a fatter front sway and/or stiffer springs/coilovers. I'd rather manage some added understeer with the throttle than deal with the crazy dive into corners. Wouldn't help the front tires any though.
      It is crying for better suspension. GS is limited though. Shocks would help I'm sure, but I am really only interested in the Polestar Ohlins if I did something (do not want to hack up the plastic cowl for koni adjuster access).

      It is what it is - a nose heavy, 3800 lb family sedan. On the course we ran 2 weeks ago it was great. this week's course was rough because there were multiple spots that were beyond 90 degree turns

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      Quote Originally Posted by DrFraserCrane View Post
      It is crying for better suspension. GS is limited though. Shocks would help I'm sure, but I am really only interested in the Polestar Ohlins if I did something (do not want to hack up the plastic cowl for koni adjuster access).

      It is what it is - a nose heavy, 3800 lb family sedan. On the course we ran 2 weeks ago it was great. this week's course was rough because there were multiple spots that were beyond 90 degree turns
      I hear ya on the Ohlins. Yep the OEM front struts are trash but a stiffer front spring (and thicker bar if there was one) would clean up much of that corner plow at a lower cost. I put H&R springs and Bilstein struts on an '06 Audi A4 Avant with similar corner plow issues, and it did wonders. The KW option is interesting also.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Bmo Pete View Post
      I hear ya on the Ohlins. Yep the OEM front struts are trash but a stiffer front spring (and thicker bar if there was one) would clean up much of that corner plow at a lower cost. I put H&R springs and Bilstein struts on an '06 Audi A4 Avant with similar corner plow issues, and it did wonders. The KW option is interesting also.
      swapping to something else suspension wise would be ideal, but GS limits me to just the shocks and 1 bar (already did the rear, and I like how it makes the rear end a little easier to move around), so this is where I am: a car I can autocross, not a car built for autocross

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      Quote Originally Posted by DrFraserCrane View Post
      ... so this is where I am: a car I can autocross, not a car built for autocross
      Exactly.

      Its a car that's great to drive every day up to 8/10 or 9/10 of its performance. And from 9/10 to 10/10, one you can autocross if you want to and have fun, understanding its limitations.

      If you've already changed the rear sway bar, you have done all you can to change the front to rear balance using spring rates of the sway bar. Going to a stiffer front bar would require a corresponding change to an even stiffer rear bar, and I don't think either is available. The other alternative is playing with front to rear spring rates, but that will bring about other issues, particularly harsh ride on the street. You might consider a suspension upgrade by Heico or Polestar where they have developed the entire suspension synergistically. The other alternative of course is coil-overs, which would allow adjustment of many of the parameters. But frankly, I have seldom read where anyone was completely satisfied with that choice due to various issues inherent in the design, or in execution of the design. As with all things, the law of diminishing returns begins to kick in and cost of incremental improvement rise exponentially.

      But all cars, even those purpose-built for auto cross, have some limitations due to the engineering tradeoffs and choices made early on. So it becomes a balancing act of considering cost/benefit ratios for modifications to improve what you have, and doing what you can to optimize your own ability within that envelope. And deciding where on the daily driver-to-autocross your priorities are.

      I had a friend at work who decided to just focus on a purpose built auto cross car and successfully competed with it for several years, but even then he found himself bound by the initial platform chosen. But it allowed him to focus his resources on racing in a more affordable way.

      Another friend found the Fiat Abarth platform to be affordably modifiable. These cars depreciate rapidly, and since Fiat owns Chrysler, they actually use a Chrysler based engine, so many of the affordable Mopar aftermarket parts can be used. Not my cup of tea, but its small footprint lends itself to autocross, and he has a ball with it. Actually spends his Saturdays running with the other Italian marques, Lamborgini's, Ferrari's, etc., and is respected and surprisingly competitive in many conditions.

      Good luck finding a solution that works for you. Autocrossing is a lot of fun.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Synesis View Post
      Exactly.



      Another friend found the Fiat Abarth platform to be affordably modifiable. These cars depreciate rapidly, and since Fiat owns Chrysler, they actually use a Chrysler based engine, so many of the affordable Mopar aftermarket parts can be used.
      I believe it's the other way around, where Chrysler are using Fiat engineered engines. I know for sure that the Dart uses the Fiat Multiair engines, as does the other smaller Chrysler products, including Jeep. I believe the 500 Abarth uses a small 1.4L version of this.
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