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      850 wagon crushed by semi trailer and everybody is OK

      I just saw this on my evening news - a real testament to the safety of these cars! The girl in the back seat probably wouldn't have survived in most other models of station wagons.

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      Good to see! In general I'd choose any new car over a 20 year old car in terms of safety, with the exception of a Volvo.


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      WOW, the baby seat was completely intact. Volvo saves lives. Fact.

      This makes me scared to have children

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      Wow. I wonder if the outcome would have been different if it were a sedan. Does the fact that it's a wagon make the structure any more solid?

      Glad they're all ok. Good looking family. Great taste in cars 😆
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      Quote Originally Posted by redmondjp View Post
      I just saw this on my evening news - a real testament to the safety of these cars! The girl in the back seat probably wouldn't have survived in most other models of station wagons.

      http://khon2.com/2017/03/14/colorado...le-in-traffic/
      Purely conjecture. Definitely a testament though to the Volvo 850 chassis' ability to take an impact.

      Quote Originally Posted by r0x4nn3 View Post
      WOW, the baby seat was completely intact. Volvo saves lives. Fact.

      This makes me scared to have children
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      Nice to see the family came out physically unscathed. Hopefully this is a lesson to the parents to never stay in the vicinity of a semi tractor trailer. I see clueless drivers do it all the time, pacing a semi trailer for miles. Pass them, stay ahead of them, or stay a safe distance behind them but never pace them. Not saying that these people were doing that but I see a lot of clueless drivers doing it.
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      Quote Originally Posted by nick_rabbo View Post
      Wow. I wonder if the outcome would have been different if it were a sedan. Does the fact that it's a wagon make the structure any more solid?

      Glad they're all ok. Good looking family. Great taste in cars 😆
      I believe the estates are safer. I've seen estates in the salvage auctions that look like sedans so if none of that is there in the first place then ???.

      Also, this is a fantastic reason to delete your 3rd row seat if you have one. That's where the crumple zone is and it's outside of the safety cage; you do not want people sitting back there! I also refuse to ride in the 3rd row of minivans anymore for this same reason. I don't know if there is no crumple zone or if I'm sitting in it or what the deal is in those things, but whatever it is definitely does not meet my minimum standards for safety.

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      Quote Originally Posted by nick_rabbo View Post
      Wow. I wonder if the outcome would have been different if it were a sedan. Does the fact that it's a wagon make the structure any more solid?

      Glad they're all ok. Good looking family. Great taste in cars 😆
      I don't think a wagon is any stronger than a sedan - if anything I would imagine it is weaker just by the size of the wagon's roof that has to be held up by those rearmost pillars. The sedan has a much smaller roof area and the rear pillars to me look more robust. That said, there is probably no difference - this is a Volvo.
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      I replied last night but the wifi must've died. I sure hope they are looking for another Volvo. That's pretty amazing.
      Totally agree with Caspian3.2. That is a must. Wait or pass quickly, but never pace. It could be empty, and it could be full!
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      Sorry, what does "pace" mean?
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      Quote Originally Posted by Wayne T5 View Post
      Sorry, what does "pace" mean?
      I suppose what's meant is to linger next or close to a semi for no reason. If traffic blocks me from passing a semi in one go I always try to stay behind it (in the passing lane) until there is enough of a gap to overtake it cleanly and quickly. Moreover, it's not only semi's that I try to avoid lingering next to. Completely agree with Caspian3.2.

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      These are probably the same people that like to hang out in your blind spot

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      Quote Originally Posted by buzzo View Post
      I suppose what's meant is to linger next or close to a semi for no reason. If traffic blocks me from passing a semi in one go I always try to stay behind it (in the passing lane) until there is enough of a gap to overtake it cleanly and quickly. Moreover, it's not only semi's that I try to avoid lingering next to. Completely agree with Caspian3.2.
      Agreed. These things rarely topple over but fishtailing into your lane is pretty commonplace. I know these guys are professionals and typically better drivers but I've seen some crazy tailgating.
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      Wow, this really puts it into perspective. I'm glad they were alright, and that car served its duty well. *bag pipes play as funeral pyre is lit in junkyard LOL*
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      Pedersen Volvo, Rickenbaugh Volvo, McDonald Volvo, Penkus Volvo, and Sill Terhar Volvo stepped in to make sure their family stays safe.....as five Volvo dealerships, from Fort Collins to Colorado Springs, presented the family with a new car, and new car seats.

      Good on them. Volvo for Life.

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      Quote Originally Posted by bhill View Post
      Pedersen Volvo, Rickenbaugh Volvo, McDonald Volvo, Penkus Volvo, and Sill Terhar Volvo stepped in to make sure their family stays safe.....as five Volvo dealerships, from Fort Collins to Colorado Springs, presented the family with a new car, and new car seats.

      Good on them. Volvo for Life.

      http://denver.cbslocal.com/2017/03/1...-semi-on-i-70/
      Really great to see. Appreciated that the family gave a shout out to the Volvo for saving their life.
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      Good for them. Great PR for the Volvo dealers and doesn't cost much in the grand scheme of things.
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      Quote Originally Posted by bhill View Post
      Pedersen Volvo, Rickenbaugh Volvo, McDonald Volvo, Penkus Volvo, and Sill Terhar Volvo stepped in to make sure their family stays safe.....as five Volvo dealerships, from Fort Collins to Colorado Springs, presented the family with a new car, and new car seats.

      Good on them. Volvo for Life.

      http://denver.cbslocal.com/2017/03/1...-semi-on-i-70/
      That's awesome! Thanks for posting this followup. It is great PR for them and I suspect that if you are a family still driving a 25-year-old car, that you probably can't afford a new Volvo.
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      Quote Originally Posted by redmondjp View Post
      That's awesome! Thanks for posting this followup. It is great PR for them and I suspect that if you are a family still driving a 25-year-old car, that you probably can't afford a new Volvo.
      I think that's a fair analysis of the general public, but probably less so among people on this forum. I plan on using my 850R as my summer DD at least through its 30th birthday, but I should be able to afford a new Volvo long before then if I continue on the path that I'm on. A lot of us, at least in the 850/x70/P2 forums are simply not willing to put that kind of money into a depreciating asset, regardless of whether we have it or not.

      New safety features will also probably become less enticing with the rise of the autonomous car. I'm expecting it to be here by the early 2020s, long before my 850R turns 30, and I will be a lot less worried about getting in a crash once we start clearing some of these morons with iPhones off the roads and getting them into autonomous cars. That's probably the best reason to get a newer car, and it will slowly drift into irrelevance over the next 10-30 years.
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      ^ exactly. I could comfortably afford a new Volvo, but what a waste of money! I drive an 850 because it's fun and cheap, but also because I have a 10-15min commute on 35mph roads. If I had a more dangerous commute I'd probably be driving an S80 or xc90 though. (I wish Volvo had made a V90 starting in 1998 based on the P2 S80, cause I would definitely be driving one of those.)
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      Great follow up. I'm very happy for them!

      Quote Originally Posted by fivealive View Post
      ^ exactly. I could comfortably afford a new Volvo, but what a waste of money! I drive an 850 because it's fun and cheap, but also because I have a 10-15min commute on 35mph roads. If I had a more dangerous commute I'd probably be driving an S80 or xc90 though. (I wish Volvo had made a V90 starting in 1998 based on the P2 S80, cause I would definitely be driving one of those.)
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      Quote Originally Posted by fivealive View Post
      ^ exactly. I could comfortably afford a new Volvo, but what a waste of money! I drive an 850 because it's fun and cheap, but also because I have a 10-15min commute on 35mph roads. If I had a more dangerous commute I'd probably be driving an S80 or xc90 though. (I wish Volvo had made a V90 starting in 1998 based on the P2 S80, cause I would definitely be driving one of those.)
      Wasn't the last V70 based on the P2 S80 platform?
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      Quote Originally Posted by Wayne T5 View Post
      Wasn't the last V70 based on the P2 S80 platform?
      Not the last one, that was P3, but the 2nd gen was P2.

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      Quote Originally Posted by JaredR View Post
      Not the last one, that was P3, but the 2nd gen was P2.
      That's right, forgot for a second, got my gens mixed up. My point was that the last V70 was essentially a wagon version of the last S80 so I don't know what a "V90" would have been based on.
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      Yeah it's a bummer they only made the P3 V70 for 3 years. They didn't sell well due to the recession so they are super uncommon, even here.
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      Quote Originally Posted by fivealive View Post
      Yeah it's a bummer they only made the P3 V70 for 3 years. They didn't sell well due to the recession so they are super uncommon, even here.
      I probably see about as many P3 V70s around here as I see P2Rs. Both sold very well here, probably much like in the PNW.

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      Quote Originally Posted by JaredR View Post
      I probably see about as many P3 V70s around here as I see P2Rs. Both sold very well here, probably much like in the PNW.
      P3 V70 V8 AWD would have been a great car! Heck, even that car with the SI 3 liter turbo 6 without the XC treatment would have been great.
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