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    1. #71
      First (slightly) wet driving experience.

      Little bit of rain. Roads were slightly wet.

      Last corner before I got to work I took hard.

      The car seemed to corner fairly flat, but more importantly almost turn as if it was a much smaller car.

      It felt like (brake based) torque vectoring. Not sure if that standard on v90cc or part of P* optimization?

      Either way can't wait for the snow in 6 months.


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      Corner Traction Control is standard. That's the brake-based torque vectoring.

      The SPA cars also have something called Understeer Control Logic. Unlike older DSTC iterations which focus stability control efforts on yaw control (minimizing lateral movement by using the brakes and then cut power drastically to regain control after a skid starts), this system partially cuts throttle as-needed to maintain front wheel traction and reduce unintended understeer which would cause the skid in the first place.

      If you enter a turn too fast, you're still going to have a traditional ESC intervention, but if you would instead be killing front traction by using too much throttle once you've entered the turn, the system will try to keep you from pushing beyond the car's handling limits. This will actually make more drivers able to explore closer to a car's limits without losing control, giving the impression the car handles better than it does because a computer is supplementing the driver's individual skill.

      This tech's been around for about 15 years, but is going to be more important and prevalent with electric power steering reducing the driver's ability to detect wheel slip early.

      Volvo's exact implementation may differ somewhat from my understanding of the tech, as Volvo has left a description of the system out of the owner's manual. So please take my details above with a grain of salt.
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    4. #73
      Quote Originally Posted by matt1122 View Post
      Corner Traction Control is standard. That's the brake-based torque vectoring.

      The SPA cars also have something called Understeer Control Logic. Unlike older DSTC iterations which focus stability control efforts on yaw control (minimizing lateral movement by using the brakes and then cut power drastically to regain control after a skid starts), this system partially cuts throttle as-needed to maintain front wheel traction and reduce unintended understeer which would cause the skid in the first place.

      If you enter a turn too fast, you're still going to have a traditional ESC intervention, but if you would instead be killing front traction by using too much throttle once you've entered the turn, the system will try to keep you from pushing beyond the car's handling limits. This will actually make more drivers able to explore closer to a car's limits without losing control, giving the impression the car handles better than it does because a computer is supplementing the driver's individual skill.

      This tech's been around for about 15 years, but is going to be more important and prevalent with electric power steering reducing the driver's ability to detect wheel slip early.

      Volvo's exact implementation may differ somewhat from my understanding of the tech, as Volvo has left a description of the system out of the owner's manual. So please take my details above with a grain of salt.


      Thanks for the info.

      Everything was impressive until the last sentence.


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    6. #74
      Quote Originally Posted by mainsail View Post
      The Canadian versions of the XC90 get active radiator shutters but not the US ones.

      http://forums.swedespeed.com/showthr...light=shutters
      Here's a video review of a US version V90 CC that clearly shows active grille shutters: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EblWvKTYEYI

      Look at the 3:00 mark.

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      Oh, they're hidden back there. Maybe our cars do have them then.
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    8. #76
      Quote Originally Posted by matt1122 View Post
      Oh, they're hidden back there. Maybe our cars do have them then.
      My loaner s90 does


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      My car does not appear to have the shutters, though I do see where they would be mounted as in the video.

      Here's a thread about it on the XC90: http://forums.swedespeed.com/showthr...rille-Shutters
      Last edited by matt1122; 05-11-2017 at 10:05 AM.
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      Quote Originally Posted by matt1122 View Post
      Corner Traction Control is standard. That's the brake-based torque vectoring.

      The SPA cars also have something called Understeer Control Logic. Unlike older DSTC iterations which focus stability control efforts on yaw control (minimizing lateral movement by using the brakes and then cut power drastically to regain control after a skid starts), this system partially cuts throttle as-needed to maintain front wheel traction and reduce unintended understeer which would cause the skid in the first place.
      When I take a SPA car on my favorite offramp, a 270* decreasing radius, downhill loop, you can feel and hear the ABS clicking even though the tires aren't losing grip, I guess that's what it's going. It holds the line very tighly, an XC90 can really dance with this technology.
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    11. #79
      Quote Originally Posted by murrays View Post
      Here's a video review of a US version V90 CC that clearly shows active grille shutters: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EblWvKTYEYI

      Look at the 3:00 mark.
      That's where I remember it from.


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    12. #80
      Did you happen to drive a V90CC without polestar before you picked yours up? Trying to decide whether to spend the change on polestar or not. Does it live up to the claims?

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      I was thinking about the active shutters today and they are probably only needed in Northern Canada to prevent icing of the radiator where temperatures get very very low, hence why they're excluded on US models.
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    14. #82
      Quote Originally Posted by hwitten View Post
      Your seats are the standard leather? No extension?
      I got the luxury package - with perforated leather and extensions.

      Buttery soft leather but adjustable side bolsters firm up the seats pretty nicely.


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    15. #83
      Quote Originally Posted by Teleman View Post
      Did you happen to drive a V90CC without polestar before you picked yours up? Trying to decide whether to spend the change on polestar or not. Does it live up to the claims?
      I did. The demo was a fully loaded dark brown model.

      There is a noticeable difference. But it's not like going from a T5 to a T6 or from that to a full Polestar engine.

      But the straight hp and torque numbers don't tell the whole story. It's subtle, they played with mid rpm range torque, it's quite a bit more now.

      Getting around moving traffic is very easy.

      The throttle response time has been shortened - according to the marketing.

      I did have one gti owner look confused as I moved past and around him much faster then something this size should be able to move.

      Oh yeah - BTW - this IS a big car (to me anyway) but I love the legroom in the car.


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      Thanks. I just closed a deal on one myself and will probably wait and see on Polestar, but it does sound nice.

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