View Full Version : A Possible VW to Volvo Convert



BRM10984
09-16-2003, 10:56 PM
Hi all. I just registered here on the swedespeed forums a little while ago. I have been a member on vwvortex for quite a while. I have a 2002 VW Jetta 1.8T currently, but I am already looking around at the possibilities for when I graduate from college in four years, as I plan to buy another vehicle then. Up until I saw this fine piece of machinery, the new S40 T5, I had been convinced that I'd go VW/ Audi again. Things can change, and seeing this car changed my confidence that I'd definitely buy VW again. So, I'm here to keep up on the latest on this beast, and hopefully I'll know all there is to know about it by the time it hits showrooms. Forgive me if I ask some questions along the way that seem elementary to the well-versed enthusiast, as I am only trying to become one myself. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://**********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">

doug242ti
09-16-2003, 11:35 PM
Welcome! Good to steal another VW fan (after my brother switched sides grrrrrr)<p>

Ozvol
09-16-2003, 11:36 PM
I'm pretty sure the new S40 will drive better than the Jetta.<p>In the rest of the world, it's called the Bora. If the Bora's anything like the current Golf to drive, I guess it's no coincidence that Bora sounds so much like BORing <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/smile.gif" BORDER="0">

Volvo Grrrr
09-17-2003, 09:53 AM
Glad to have another VW convert on the boards. I currently drive a 99 Passat (modded) but she's been giving me problems lately. I was going to stick with VW for my next car (R32), but I figured I can spend a little more money and get something reliable! Most VW owners (especially the ones that mod) get treated like crap at the dealership. It also doesn't seem like these cars were meant to last at all. Basic things like control arms failing early and valve cover gasket deteriorating quickly.<p>Once I drove the new R's at Shea Stadium back in April, I was hooked on Volvo's. Ever since I was younger, I have always wanted a yellow T5-R and then a red R but those never happened. So I'm looking into possibly a 2004 V70R at the moment. <p>Bora's aren't too bad to drive around. My mom has a 2002 Bora wagon and it's ok. Not as good to drive as my Passat but still good. <p>Yannis would say you are driving a <b><i>V</i></b>olvo <b><i>W</i></b>annabe <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/wink.gif" BORDER="0">

BRM10984
09-17-2003, 10:31 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Volvo Grrrr</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Glad to have another VW convert on the boards. I currently drive a 99 Passat (modded) but she's been giving me problems lately. I was going to stick with VW for my next car (R32), but I figured I can spend a little more money and get something reliable! Most VW owners (especially the ones that mod) get treated like crap at the dealership. It also doesn't seem like these cars were meant to last at all. Basic things like control arms failing early and valve cover gasket deteriorating quickly.<p>Once I drove the new R's at Shea Stadium back in April, I was hooked on Volvo's. Ever since I was younger, I have always wanted a yellow T5-R and then a red R but those never happened. So I'm looking into possibly a 2004 V70R at the moment. <p>Bora's aren't too bad to drive around. My mom has a 2002 Bora wagon and it's ok. Not as good to drive as my Passat but still good. <p><B>Yannis would say you are driving a <b><i>V</i></b>olvo <b><i>W</i></b>wannabe <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/wink.gif" BORDER="0"></B></TD></TR></TABLE><p>LOL... I never would have thought of that. I love my Jetta, and I am one of the few, it seems, that hasn't had a mountain of problems with VW. I don't mod because I am in school and I am trying to just get the car paid for, but my dealer is fairly easy to deal with anyway. I plan to keep my Jetta when I get my next vehicle if it works out okay. If I have enough saved up, I'll be able to keep it as a project instead of selling it as down payment.

Volvo Grrrr
09-17-2003, 10:37 AM
My mom doesn't mod her Jetta either (only have a shorty antenna and clear bumper lenses on it) but it's had problems. Coil pack issues (she's got a 1.8T), a broken windshield nozzle and interior trim bubbling up last summer. If you haven't had any problems, you are lucky.<p>I would like to keep my Passat as a 2nd car but with the problems I'm currently experiencing, I'm going to trade it in. 67K miles on her right now and everything seems to be deteriorating on me right now. Maybe in the future, VW's quality will get better.<br>

S.R.
09-17-2003, 12:40 PM
Welcome to Swedespeed! Glad to have you aboard!<p>My professors aways used to tell me, don't ever worry about asking a question that might seem elementary or trivial, because there is always another person out there who wants to know the same thing, but might be too affraid to ask. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://**********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>-Drew

BRM10984
09-17-2003, 01:11 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Volvo Grrrr</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">My mom doesn't mod her Jetta either (only have a shorty antenna and clear bumper lenses on it) but it's had problems. Coil pack issues (she's got a 1.8T), a broken windshield nozzle and interior trim bubbling up last summer. If you haven't had any problems, you are lucky.<p>I would like to keep my Passat as a 2nd car but with the problems I'm currently experiencing, I'm going to trade it in. 67K miles on her right now and everything seems to be deteriorating on me right now. Maybe in the future, VW's quality will get better.<br></TD></TR></TABLE><p>Yeah, I said I had the normal issues but neglected to elaborate on it. Basically what I've had is the window regulator issue and all the coilpacks replaced. I've also had two bad ECU's. All of the issues were fixed very quickly, and though they are major issues, it doesn't bother me that much as long as I am under warranty.

BRM10984
09-17-2003, 01:13 PM
<IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://**********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> to you. Seems that there are more mature people here than there are on vwvortex. The 16 and 17 year olds run the MKIV forums over there. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/rolleyes.gif" BORDER="0">

Volvo Grrrr
09-17-2003, 01:21 PM
The guys and gals here are wonderful folks. Much more mature than the "kids" at VW Vortex. Actually much more mature than other VW sites I'm on as well.<br>

BRM10984
09-17-2003, 02:22 PM
Nice to know... I think Volvo appeals to a more mature group anyway. I just hope that the new S40 won't become the spoiled teenagers' first car, because that could trash your forum. Just imagine if they all came asking what kind of wheels they should get. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/zeroforum_graphics/screwy.gif" BORDER="0">

S40autoX
09-17-2003, 08:40 PM
hey, screw you<br>i am 17 driving a 2001 S40 with 18s and an MS-Design bodykit and more....<p>i am almost definitely getting a new S40 when i get out of college too because they are better cars, period. i am not into anything rice however, all performace and sweet style. and yeah, im already looking at wheels for it.

BRM10984
09-17-2003, 08:48 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>S40autoX</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hey, screw you<br>i am 17 driving a 2001 S40 with 18s and an MS-Design bodykit and more....<p>i am almost definitely getting a new S40 when i get out of college too because they are better cars, period. i am not into anything rice however, all performace and sweet style. and yeah, im already looking at wheels for it. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Take a surf over to vwvortex and take a look at the MKIV forums... you'll see what I'm talking about. Fifteen to twenty people on here who occasionally ask about wheels or skirts or a valance/ bumper won't come close to the amount of garbage at vwvortex. I wasn't saying that there is anything wrong with it, only that it gets old when people repeatedly ask the same things and post the same wheel or kit polls. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://**********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">

09-17-2003, 09:03 PM
welcome welcome. I was a regular on Vortex myself ( 83caddy16v ) for about 4yrs. The MkIV is....lets just say there is a younger crowd in there. The Mk1 forum was a nice little haven because the guys there pretty much did all the wrench turning on their Rabbits, so there was lots of good advice. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://**********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>The new S40 may convert a few A4 owners if it delivers on the performance claims. It may also give Jetta shoppers a very nice alternative with more power. <p>

S.R.
09-19-2003, 09:45 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>BRM10984</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Just imagine if they all came asking what kind of wheels they should get. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/zeroforum_graphics/screwy.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>I think that asking about wheels would be a good thing actually. Volvo needs to build up some enthusiasm with a younger audience. Wheels IMHO are one of the best ways to change the look and performance of a car at the same time.<p>-Drew

Volvo Grrrr
09-19-2003, 10:14 AM
Not unless they start asking if these ghetto blinging rims would look good. And what about those huge wings? It'll look good on a S40, right? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/wink.gif" BORDER="0"><p>

BRM10984
09-19-2003, 10:45 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Volvo Grrrr</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Not unless they start asking if these ghetto blinging rims would look good. And what about those huge wings? It'll look good on a S40, right? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/wink.gif" BORDER="0"><p></TD></TR></TABLE><p>Hehe... I'm going to get a black S40 and put spinnahz on it. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/rolleyes.gif" BORDER="0"> It's all a matter of personal preference, but it just gets darned annoying to see every other thread on vwvortex having something to do with a wheel choice. Volvo does need to attract a younger crowd, but that doesn't necessarily mean they will all come onto the forum and post about wheels, kits, wings, etc. There is a handful of people on the other forum that don't constantly ask about those things, so not everyone does it.

cs40racing
09-19-2003, 10:50 AM
IF the VW dealers have problems with modded cars man Volvo is def. not the way to go. you want to talk about being treated like crap.. ugh.. for all I care all the Volvo dealers in houston (with the excepetion of one which shall remain nameless) can go out of business for all I care.

BRM10984
09-19-2003, 02:20 PM
Hmm... good to know, though I am not a heavy modder anyway. I'm surely showing my ignorance here, but I didn't know there was even much you could do, at least aftermarket performace-wise, to a Volvo. There isn't even a Volvo dealership in either of my areas- I will have to drive at least an hour and a half out of the way of home to get one, and I think more than two hours from school, though I'll be buying after I'm out of school. The reason I'm not a heavy modder is because I follow the "better safe than sorry" and the "don't fix it if it ain't broke" schools of thought. I don't do anything performance-minded until the warranty is up, and even then I'm sure I'd have a hard time justifying it if the original part works just fine. I'm always afraid that the worst that could happen will, so I just leave the engine and such alone.

doug242ti
09-19-2003, 09:03 PM
Volvo does attract a young crowd, only with the older 240/7 series. Pop over to turbobricks.com I bet 90 percent of the people are under 30. <p>Course Im 20 with my own (that I bought/pay for) s60 and a 242ti which I call the ****rocket <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/wink.gif" BORDER="0"><p>Doug