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      2005-2007 V70 in Snow?

      Can anyone offer some insight on how the V70's handle in the snow-not the XC models. There is some snow where I live, but, I like the V70's handling a bit better than the XC...I am wondering what people who own this car have experienced. Thanks for your insight.

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      FWD V70 in the snow is pure crap

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      Re: (Chilled Man)

      Quote, originally posted by Chilled Man »
      FWD V70 in the snow is pure crap

      I concur. Ours is just short of a sled in the snow.

      Unless you push the "W" button and then...wait...nope

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      Re: (thesternowl)

      With snow tires all-round, I tow a snowmobile--used to tow two--LOOKING for slippery conditions and really didn't have a problem. The snow tires are 3x the traction of "all-seasons". I was surprised how well they worked.

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      Quote, originally posted by ttraynor »
      With snow tires all-round, I tow a snowmobile--used to tow two--LOOKING for slippery conditions and really didn't have a problem. The snow tires are 3x the traction of "all-seasons". I was surprised how well they worked.

      FWD?

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      Re: (ttraynor)

      Put decent winter rubber on them and they work pretty well. They will plow a bit in the corners like just about every FWD car but no worse than many. If you do want to consider an AWD version, they work better than the last Quattro I had but don't work as well as my last Range Rover.

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      Re: 2005-2007 V70 in Snow? (Schoolhouseink)

      Works just fine with 4 snows in it.
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      Re: 2005-2007 V70 in Snow? (BellevilleV70)

      Thanks!

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      Re: (thesternowl)

      Front wheel drive--yes. But I am searching for a awd car as I type....

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      Re: (Chilled Man)

      Quote, originally posted by Chilled Man »
      FWD V70 in the snow is pure crap

      Says who? I have driven my car in up to 6" of snow...with A/s tires, mind you.

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      I agree. There is no contest. However, the V70s (FWD) are not crap in the snow.

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      Re: (GrecianVolvo)

      Front-drive V70's are NOT crap in the snow and ice, 4 good snow/ice tires make it great (Blizzaks here). I've driven mine in some SERIOUS snow and never been stuck, slid off the road, etc. As with any vehicle, the limiting factor is ground clearance: when the car starts to plow snow it's not going to go far. But I've done the 400-mile round trip from here to Detroit and back in blizzard conditions (as well as just plain snowstorms, ha ha) quite a few times without a slip. We average 95 inches/year here, have had 120+ the past couple of years. BTW, I also have a 4wd Tahoe: I'd much rather drive the V70 unless the snow is real deep (10+ inches or so), traction is just as good if not better with the snow tires on it.

      I'll take my V70 thru pretty much any snow that an XC will go thru (see ground clearance, above) but I don't have the potential AWD issues and relatively mushy ride.

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      Re: (WhoaTed)

      Perhaps I need to get a dedicated set of wheels and snow tires.

      My 17x7" Amalthea's with Yoko H4S's were plain worthless in last years snow.

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      Re: (thesternowl)

      Perhaps you should.

      16" (205/55/16) SNOW tires work just fine on most FWD Gen1 and P2 Volvos.
      I have my AWD's here but most of the time I used to drive my 850R in the snow with 16" Gisvaleds (sp?) and it went everywhere!

      (The car came with 2 sets of wheels and tires so I decided why not, and it worked out just fine)

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      Re: 2005-2007 V70 in Snow? (Schoolhouseink)

      As mentioned, going with snow tires are the biggest thing you can do. AWD vs. FWD is really only a "get-going" difference -- once you're rolling, the cars behave very similarly. So, if you expect to be stopped at the bottom of snowy/icy hills a lot, AWD will get you up them more easily and consistently. If you're talking about general tooling around, FWD is plenty sufficient.

      I've been stuck twice in 5 years. Once I stopped on glare ice on an uphill (idiot driver in front of me saw ice and decided to just swerve and dump it in the ditch rather than keep the gas pedal down lightly and continue up the hill) and couldn't get going. AWD would probably have gotten me on my way, as I was spinning just the one tire (my pre-Quaife LSD days). The second time was coming up a twisty incline with 6-8 inches of unplowed snow. I just couldn't carry enough speed to make up for my (again, one wheel) slipping. AWD would probably have gotten me up (actually, I believe the LSD would have, too).

      Two times in 5 years in Vermont's not bad. I've certainly gotten into and out of more places than many other FWD and RWD cars (and sometimes AWD without snow tires). I run dedicated tires in the winter (Nokian Hakka NRWs [all season with winter service badging] for the first incident; Dunlop SP Wintersport 3Ds [snow tires] for the second).

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      Re: 2005-2007 V70 in Snow? (VTT5)

      2004 T5 Manual...how many of those came State-side? Add Quaife LSD...

      ...so jealous.

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      Re: (thesternowl)

      Quote, originally posted by thesternowl »
      Perhaps I need to get a dedicated set of wheels and snow tires.

      My 17x7" Amalthea's with Yoko H4S's were plain worthless in last years snow.

      I have a set of 16" wheels/snows for winter, and run the Amaltheas in the summer. 215/60-16 snows if I remember correctly. Time to dig them out of the shop now that I think of it, first serious slippery day is coming up before too long...

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      A topic for me! The last 2 years, we got more than 5m of snow here!

      Last winter, I've sell my V70 FWD and change it for a XC70 AWD because with all the traction control system the car have, even with the best winter tires ever made (Nokian Hakka5), the car won't go uphill in my street. Engine cut-off, brakes works and try to stop the spinning wheel, etc. The result was the car don't move, or very slowly, and I was a little bit too slow on the road.

      AWD or XC is a better choice if you want a better feeling in snow, but do you get so much snow down there?


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      Actually, we do get a good bit of snow-and I do live on a hilly street-dangerously hilly-a neighbor of mine who is a mechanic on volvo's had said that when he moved to the area he had a RWD Volvo and could not make it up our hill-I am beginning to lean in the direction of the AWD XC or (possibly a Forrester)-just need to know which year XC's to avoid!!

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      Re: (thesternowl)

      Thanks, and that is good to know---I really like to V70 and the drive on the XC is not nearly as 'smooth'-although it is wet and snowy here in NEPA 6 mos of the year-it seems with good snow tires I will be OK-I mean, I currently have a Civic and I have rarely had any major concerns in the snow.

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      Re: (Schoolhouseink)

      Does the state of PA allow studded tires? Conti has the Altimax, with factory studs, and made in Germany. This year Conti is shipping a new style of stud, that should be more aggressive than the round pins.

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      Re: (Miliceman)

      Quote, originally posted by Miliceman »

      Last winter, I've sell my V70 FWD and change it for a XC70 AWD because with all the traction control system the car have...Engine cut-off, brakes works and try to stop the spinning wheel, etc. The result was the car don't move, or very slowly, and I was a little bit too slow on the road.

      AWD or XC is a better choice if you want a better feeling in snow, but do you get so much snow down there?


      I simply switch the DSTC off in situations like that but it's very rare that I need to. Your pic looks like my neighborhood does in the winter, ha ha ha. But seriously, I've NEVER had a problem with ice on hills etc...after a few "road trips" in nasty, nasty snowstorms the guys at work are stunned by how good this car is in heavy snow and ice. It just plain grips in everything. Better feeling? My V70 gives me better "feeling" in the snow/ice than my Tahoe does, based on "feeling" I'd much rather drive the wagon. YMMV of course...

      BTW, RWD Volvos and FWD are worlds apart in the winter.

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      Thanks for this-in NEPA we do get quite a bit of snow-we are supposed to have some soon actually-10 degrees colder here than in NJ or NYC right now and throughout---we are also very hilly for the most part and a good bit of areas are difficult terrain if I go even slightly off road-through the woods and the like-i think I will begin looking for an XC70 simply so I do not have to have the worry-we're expecting our 2nd child in November---i am finding that I have gotten a little off road wiht the civic and it is not the ride i want---I have to find an XC-as much as I like the T5-the XC comes in Turbo too...

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      Re: (Schoolhouseink)

      Quote, originally posted by Schoolhouseink »
      I am beginning to lean in the direction of the AWD XC or (possibly a Forrester)-just need to know which year XC's to avoid!!

      Go for 2003+ to get the Haldex AWD and avoid the 2001 auto transmission failures.

      Or have Chilled Man build you one with a manual transmission!

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      I recently discovered the the 2006 V70 R is an AWD vehicle-anyone have experience with this car in the snow? I think i found a nice one.

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      Re: 2005-2007 V70 in Snow? (Schoolhouseink)

      I did a write-up back in 2006 on the Nokian RSi snow tires and my V70R. Vredestein snow tires have been the best combination of a snow tire with normal driving characteristics on dry pavement.

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