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      Aftermarket HID Data - If you have installed a kit read this

      SwedeSpeed P1 (C30, S40, V50, C70) HID Retrofit Index
      1. SKBOWE Plug-and-Play harness for P1 HID conversion
      2. Background info, general questions, and share your HID setup (you are here)
      3. KBOWE How-To (Original 2009 Version) build your own PWM filter
      4. Original 2009 investigation and technical discussion on S40 HID issues
      5. ForceFed’s E46 D2S Bi-Xenon Projector Retrofit guide
      6. Rewire OEM Bi-Xenon headlights to work on the halogen harness
      7. DRL Disable Alone not enough for safe Aftermarket HID retrofits
      8. LizardOfBodom's EU/RHD Bosch ("E46") Bi-Xenon replica retrofitting writeup + angle eyes + running lights


      This thread is for general information and nontechnical discussion on HID retrofits in P1 Volvos. If you'd like to share your experiences on an aftermarket HID installation working (or failing!) in a P1 car, that is S40/V50/C30/C70N, please post here!

      There is a brief summary of the issues with P1 HID retrofits in the OP (below). If you are planning an HID install and want to do it correctly, just get an skbowe and ignore the warning below. If you are curious why you'd need one, keep reading...



      So you want to run HIDs in your Volvo S40, C30, V50, or C70?
      UPDATE JUNE 2017 - THE SKBOWE IS NOW AVAILABLE: See skbowe.com for details!

      Though they are potentially dangerous, HID retrofits are a popular aftermarket modification which comes up frequently on the S40/V50 forum. There are a number of ways to retrofit: common rebased H11 kits, a complete projector swap, or even fitting the factory bi-xenon housings. The optical performance pros and cons of these methods apply to all vehicles and are discussed ad nauseam elsewhere, so I won't go into them here. This thread covers the specific electrical issues with P1 halogen-to-HID conversion and how to address them. This discussion is NOT relevant to other Volvo models - P1 vehicles with factory equipped bi-xenon headlights, the older P2 (S60, V70), or the newer P3 XC60 and XC90 SUVs - all which have an unrelated lighting electrical system.

      This topic deserves a "Told Ya So" disclaimer:

      WARNING: Do not attempt to operate an aftermarket HID kit in a Volvo P1 S40 / V50 / C30 / C70 without an SKBOWE before reading and understanding the issue(s) described below. While a kit may turn on, the PWM voltage regulation will drastically shorten the life of the HIDs, and can potentially damage the Windshield Wiper Motor Module (WMM) and/or the Central Electronic Module (CEM), both of which cost several hundred dollars to replace at the dealer.

      Headlights are specialized equipment: the HID conversion process is complex, potentially illegal, and risks damaging the vehicle. While this risk can be greatly reduced by following the guidance below, there is no completely safe HID retrofit for P1 cars.

      The information summarized here is based on the S40/V50 electrical design document (section on headlights starts on page 21), the factory wiring diagram - group 35 (page 59), the CEM overview, design, and function pages from ViDA confirmed with hardware teardown, and 5+ years of community research (in this thread, also here, here, and various international forums).

      A much more thorough technical narrative is available on the skbowe website.

      What's the problem?


      As with many modern vehicles, aftermarket HID ballasts will not function correctly when directly connected to factory wiring in Volvo P1 chassis vehicles originally equipped with halogen (incandescent) projector headlights. However, the typical "error cancelers" or "canbus harness" - sold by major HID vendors as a generic solution to similar issues in other makes/models - are not appropriate for P1 cars due to their unique electrical system.

      Specifically, the each halogen low-beam/DRL combo bulb is directly wired to the CEM (central electronic module), which houses two independent fuseless current-monitored high-side PMOS-switched PWM-voltage-regulated circuits. When an fault condition is detected in either circuit, the CEM signals a "Bulb Failure Low Beam" message (aka bulb-out warning, or BOW) to appear on the DIM (driver information module aka gauge cluster LCD) with a yellow triangle.

      Unlike many other vehicles, the fault monitoring in the P1 CEM is very selective to both output current and voltage. The PWM regulation is a much lower frequency (80hz) than the typical 1-200 kHz found elsewhere. Worse still, there is a poorly designed filter in the sensitive Wiper Motor computer (WMM) which shares a ground connection with the right headlight - such that back EMF transients and stray EMI from unshielded high-voltage ballast connections can cause (potentially permanent) erratic wiper behavior.

      In short, installing an HID retrofit will cause great anger amongst the notorious Volvo electrical gremlins.

      Ok, so what do I do?

      It's impractical to fit the OE bi-xenon system, as it would require a new engine and body wiring harness, the GDL modules, the headlight housings, level sensors, and a custom CEM flash that would have to come from VolvoHQ as a factory equipment correction

      The safest option is to upgrade your halogen H11 bulbs to H9 and avoid all this trouble.

      Using a high-quality (12 AWG) relay harness solves issues (1) and (2) below - the relay harness bypasses the PWM modulation produced by the CEM, so no filtering is necessary. A small "anti-buzz" capacitor may be required on the relay. Do not skimp on the ground, go all the way to the left side strut (nearest the battery). Using a relay harness will result in the "Bulb Failure" message, which is harmless but annoying. To eliminate it, both headlight circuits must see a 25-30W load: so either use 5-ohm load resistors (which wastes 30W of power per) or run the headlight wires to the foglight bulbs (which may not be legal in jurisdictions where cars are limited to 4 forward facing lights on simultaneously.

      If you're still reading, you probably want to use the factory wiring with an aftermarket ballast. This is possible, but you have to address the three main issues:

      (1) PWM Voltage Regulation

      Problem:

      To extend the life of the higher-wattage halogen bulbs used in our cars (low-beams, running lights, brake lights, turn signals, and reverse lights), Volvo engineers decided to add a form of voltage regulation called Pulse Width Modulation (PWM) - which switches the 14.5V DC produced by the alternator on and off around 80 times per second to produce an average of 13V. While halogen bulbs don't mind these pulses, this form of regulation prevents aftermarket HID ballasts hooked to the factory halogen low-beam wiring from operating correctly. There is an extremely detailed explanation of this issue in my original research thread.

      There are two levels of PWM regulation. All bulbs are regulated to 13.0V max, which is a duty cycle of about 80% under normal operation. In addition, cars programed with Daytime Running Lights (DRL) will drop further to around 8.5V using a 50-60% duty cycle when the sunlight sensor (located in the center of the dash) decides that it is day time and the Light Switch Module is in position "0". No automotive HID ballast is designed to run on 8.5V, so retrofits using the OEM wiring should only be operated in position II (on). But even in this position, the 80% duty cycle PWM, producing an average of 13v, is problematic.

      Solution:

      Use a diode-capacitor half-bridge rectifier to smooth the PWM to a clean DC voltage. Due to the low frequency (80 Hz) modulation the capacitor must be very large - on the order of 33,000uF or more - to achieve adequate ripple filtration. Details of how such a filter can be DIY'ed are in the KBOWE thread. The KBOWE addresses the (2) ground issue, but not the (3) EMI issue.

      The KBOWE is very successful when used with large capacitors. For the record, there have been two recorded WMM failures with KBOWEs, both cases, a full KBOWE and a mini KBOWE pair were my fault for suppling smaller 22,000uF filter capacitors. They occurred after an extended duration and a switch to low-quality ballasts (the other ballasts having failed presumably due to degraded filter capacitors). The use of high-quality, 33,000uF+ capacitors is of the upmost importance.

      As of December 2016: there are no commercial products that I am aware of that can handle the DRL PWM (if this changes I'll post it here). The 2,200 uF in "HID-elim", 4,700uF capacitor in the DDM BOW3 and the 6,300uF capacitor in the Morimoto CANBUS harness are just an order of magnitude too small for this exceptionally low frequency. They don't reduce ripple enough to begin with, and even if they do work initially 4A+ ripple currents far exceed their ratings resulting in premature failure. When they fail, the ballast will either shut down (best case) or try to re-ignite the bulb many times per second producing damaging levels of EMF and RF noise.

      Update regarding DRL disable: DRL disable alone is NOT sufficient to allow safe HID retrofit. For many years, the advice has been that, if there are no legal DRL requirements in your area, software update PN 30679690 will disable both DRLs and the DAYTIME PWM regulation (60% duty cycle). Depending on the dealer, this flash will run between $75-$150. However, recent testing has shown that that *just* disabling DRLs DOES NOT eliminate the 13.0V-regulating (~90% dt) PWM, and does not address the (2) ground or (3) EMI issues below. Many DRL-disable-only retrofits have had WMM failure, and this new data explains why. To be clear - the only effective solution to Problem (1) is a KBOWE until a commercial alternative is developed.

      (2) Shared Ground Connection / LV EMI

      Problem:

      The right headlight (left hand if looking at the car from the front) H11 connector shares a ground connection with the Wiper Motor (WMM), which is digitally controlled via a LIN signal from the CEM. A badly behaved ballast (e.g. with a failing error harness) will introduce voltage spikes (also called transients) into the electrical system, which can cause communication problems and potentially permanent damage to the WMM.

      The ground point in question is actually not near the WMM, it's at the passenger-side strut. You can follow it in the full 2005 S40/V50 wiring diagram I have on my site:

      Page 26: The ground point 31/110 is listed as "Right MacPherson strut tower"
      Page 59: The headlight (group 35) low beams, specifically right side 10/2, ground via junction 63/109 -> junction 63/108 -> ground point 31/110 (right strut)
      Page 74: WMM (6/1) grounds through pin3 -> junction 63/108 -> ground point 31/110 (right strut tower). The CEM itself grounds at A:14 -> junction 63/12 -> ground point 31/84 (passenger side A-post)
      Page 171: The junction 63/108 is buried in the engine harness, right side with a good amount of distance to the ground point 31/110

      It's the parasitic resistance between 63/108 and 31/110 which allows voltage to develop between the CEM ground and the WMM ground, potentially bringing the LIN bus voltage on pin 1 negative enough to forward bias the clamp diodes.

      Note that, similarly, the foglight ground is shared with the PSM (electronic power steering pump) and some members have had issues with "Power steering failure" messages running retrofits off the fog circuit.

      Solution:

      Add a new low-impedance ground point for the HID ballasts so that current does not flow through the factory ground path, and add some bypass capacitance to mitigate transients.

      The KBOWE and the mini KBOWE include an auxiliary ground connection to serve this purpose, and have sufficient capacitance (from the ripple filter) to address any transients.

      For additional protection, metal ballasts with grounded cases (not all are - check with multimeter first) should be physically bolted to the chassis after stripping paint around the screw holes (be sure to repaint after it's installed!).

      The HID ballast can ground pretty much anywhere, the shorter the connection the better. Use high quality #12 wire and avoid using the terminals on the right-side strut tower (opposite the battery). Take care to clean the contact area down to bare shiny metal - it is critical that this connection be low resistance.

      (3) Ballast HV EMI

      Problem:

      This is the least-well defined problem, and while it has been discussed at length (e.g. here and here and here) with widely varying opinions, so far there is no concrete evidence to support the theory: In general, older/less expensive ballasts have poor shielding on the HV ignitor and wires, essentially turning the system into a radio transmitter which can cause electromagnetic interference (EMI or RFI) with other electronics in the vehicle. Usually this just results in FM radio noise, but in some vehicles (with no relation to the P1 electrical system) insufficient shielding has been shown to affect computer modules (including the wiper motor) due to the increased EMI levels.

      Solution:

      Best practice - regardless of vehicle - is to select high-quality retrofit components including shielded on HV circuits (between the ignitor and the bulb). The D1S configuration (bulb-integrated ignitor) used in the factory bi-xenon setup offers the best EMI shielding possible, but may be difficult to retrofit in the halogen housing. Some manufactures produce D2S on-bulb ignitor, shielded external D2S ignitor, and rebased shielded ballast kits. Alternately, a less expensive kit can be shielded by wrapping copper or aluminum foil around the HV leads to form a faraday cage and grounding it to the chassis.



      Say what!!?1?

      If the above is just all too much, my recommendation would be to hold off on an HID retrofit. Some day there might be a safe, plug-and-play solution, but as of 5/2016 there isn't one. Sorry

      UPDATE JUNE 2017 - A LIMITED RUN OF SKBOWE WILL BE PRODUCED: See skbowe.com for details on a plug-and-play solution

      For increased performance, you can upgrade your halogen lights.


      My retrofit is working fine, how can I help?

      I'm trying to get some data together on HID installs in the C30/S40/V50/C70 chassis, and if you have installed an HID kit (sorry, factory bi-xenon's don't count) I would appreciate your help!

      Three questions:
      (1) When you installed the kit (approximately, like a year ago, a month ago, etc...)
      (2) If the kit is 35w or 55w (if you're not sure it's probably 35w), and the brand if you remember.
      (3) If you are running a battery harness, BOW eliminator, DRL disable etc... and is the "Low beam failure" message still displayed.

      Also, if you have had to replace your wiper motor (WMM) after installing your HID kit, (a) how long after and (b) how many times it has been replaced would be much appreciated. Thanks!

      Edit: BTW data is here in-case anyone is curious: http://theeshadow.com/files/volvo/p1hid.xls

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      Re: Aftermarket HID Data - If you have installed a kit read this (theshadow27)

      I'll play.

      1,2, 3) I installed my DDM 55w 6000K kit with BOW Harness about a year or so ago. Has worked great and has improved my visibility a ton over the crap stock halogens. Only had one person 'flash' me for them being too bright, but I think that was because the incline caused my lights to be brighter to them or something.

      My only issue I've had twice is one side stops working randomly, giving me the bulb out warning. I got an RMA to send it in for warranty repair and it started working again. It recently started doing it again. I purchased a new identical kit so I can have a backup, and send in my current for replacement (lifetime warranty). Buying via John at SharpHID is highly recommended over DDM directly as DDM's customer service blows, it has taken them a month just to send me an email saying the item has finally shipped.

      I also have a set of 35w 3500K DDM on the way for my fogs, and a set of 35W DDM Raptors to test out.



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      1) Fogs about 3 years ago, should be 35W slims.
      Lowbeams 35W about 3 years ago, replaced with 55W 1 year ago.

      2) As above. Not sure what brand fogs are, installed by previous owner. 55W are DDMs.

      3) Battery Harness for both fogs and low beams.
      BOW is always present, with probably no efficient way of eliminating. (Resistor to take 55W worth of current isn't exactly energy efficient). I can live with BOW all the time.


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      Re: (fone)

      Cool, forgot to mention fogs don't count (low beams only).

      Got one from c30world:

      Quote, originally posted by young_racer05;152184 »
      I have had my HID kit for about 6 months now and no worries so far. It is a 55w and I got the kit from sharpHID and I did need BOW eliminator. The lights work perfectly about 90% of the time and when they dont all I do is turn on just the parking lights for about 30 seconds and then turn the lights back on and they work it never fails.
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      I installed my HID kit in October of '09. 5000K 35W Kaixen kit, no BOW or harness needed, and no issues yet! Also installed the same kit in my sister's S40 at the same time, I think she had one low beam failure warning once which went away, but nothing else.
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      I am running the DDM slim 55w kit, the WMM has failed one time on me, after it failed I got the software update that disables the DRLs and I have been a year free of any problems.

      Using the BOW harness


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      Re: Aftermarket HID Data - If you have installed a kit read this (theshadow27)

      1) Installed about 8 months ago
      2) Used set of 55W DDM slim ballasts
      3) Bow eliminators required but took a dump after about 5 months I think. Operated fine until the bow harness failed on one side.
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      Re: Aftermarket HID Data - If you have installed a kit read this (theshadow27)

      I installed the 35w 5000k Kaixen kit about October 09. No BOW or harness required. No issues with the kit. No Lowbeam failure message displayed. No issues or replacements with the WMM.

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      Re: Aftermarket HID Data - If you have installed a kit read this (Delhibeli)

      Quote, originally posted by Delhibeli »
      I installed the 35w 5000k Kaixen kit about October 09. No BOW or harness required. No issues with the kit. No Lowbeam failure message displayed. No issues or replacements with the WMM.

      Exactly the same for me in the C30 .


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      Re: Aftermarket HID Data - If you have installed a kit read this (theshadow27)

      Quote, originally posted by theshadow27 »
      I'm trying to get some data together on HID installs in the C30/S40/V50/C70 chassis, and if you have installed an HID kit (sorry, factory bi-xenon's don't count) I would appreciate your help!

      Three questions:
      (1) When you installed the kit (approximately, like a year ago, a month ago, etc...)
      (2) If the kit is 35w or 55w (if you're not sure it's probably 35w), and the brand if you remember.
      (3) If a battery harness, BOW eliminator, etc... was required for the kit to work, and if so, is the "Low beam failure" message still displayed.

      Also, if you have had to replace your wiper motor (WMM) after installing your HID kit, (a) how long after and (b) how many times it has been replaced would be much appreciated. Thanks!

      Edit: BTW data is here in-case anyone is curious: http://theeshadow.com/files/volvo/p1hid.xls


      Modified by theshadow27 at 5:24 PM 3-2-2010


      Installed kit around Fall 2007/Spring 2008.
      35w, DDM Tuning from SharpHID
      No battery harness, no BOW eliminator; only thing done was to have the software for DRLs disabled.

      Wiper motor has never blown either.

      /edit

      I forgot to add that one ballast failed about a year ago, and it got replaced with a DDM slim digital ballast. No issues since then


      Modified by cicatrizdare at 5:34 AM 3-3-2010


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      Re: Aftermarket HID Data - If you have installed a kit read this (theshadow27)

      thx for the heads up on this shadow!

      1. 35w 9/2008 -> 7/2009; 55w 7/2009 -> present
      2. both 35w apexcone and 55w ddm.
      3. BOW on both (same ones actually), had problems with 35w ones not coming on at startup, 55w work fine. No replacements yet on either.

      edit: now that i think about it one of my 35w apexcones might have gone out. I'll plug them in and check this weekend.


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      As i posted in the other thread I have run three different kits. Don't remember the w, but as you say probably 35w. 8000k and 6000k.

      Brands where MKS and MDS. I'm running MDS now I think and it's been working for 1½ years.
      I'm running canbus cables for this to work properly but this is needed in almost all new euro cars so this is included in every kit.

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      Re: (TheDane)

      Quote, originally posted by TheDane »
      I'm running canbus cables for this to work properly

      Does your CANBUS harness look like:

      Or like this:

      Thanks!

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      Re: (theshadow27)

      Quote, originally posted by theshadow27 »


      This would be the closest to what I've got.

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      Re: (TheDane)

      That is what I had that took a dump on me after a few months.
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      Quote, originally posted by ForceFed Motorsports »
      That is what I had that took a dump on me after a few months.

      Yep, remember I took it apart Thanks for that BTW... it help to crack a big part of the puzzle.

      That box, by the way, is the BOW-3 harness. Same one that's sold by DDM, SharpHID, etc...

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      Re: (theshadow27)

      Just FYI:

      Received my 3 new kits I ordered from DDM today. Took like a month to get them but whatever. Anyways, the thing that really hit me when I opened up the boxes to look at the kits is how HUGE the DDM Raptor kit is. It is literally double the size of the 55w DDM slim, and 3x the size of the 35w DDM slim. Picture comparing size on the way...

      Also, the first BOW that is pictured above is exactly like the ones I received today. or ?

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      Re: (carreragt7)

      Quote, originally posted by carreragt7 »
      Also, the first BOW that is pictured above is exactly like the ones I received today. or ?

      Well, from the 22 users who have responded to these thread(s), 8 have used them, 5 have failed, and 1 had a WMM burn out. So statistically,

      That said, they do work for a while before they burn out. And they don't always burn out the WMM. It should last you long enough to get you at least to the prototypes of the commercial product

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      Re: (theshadow27)


      35w DDM Slim is the smallest (black), then the 55w DDM Slim (black), then the huge 35w DDM Raptor (silver). Sucks, because the Raptors are the ones I plan on using for my fogs, you know, the setup with the least amount of space.

      The 35w slim 4500k is for my GF's S60, 55w 6000k is replacement for my current ones.

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      Re: (carreragt7)

      Yep. The great thing is they are all Chinese rip-offs of real ballasts:

      From left to right:

      Phillips 4th gen D1S ballast w/circuit mod

      Original Phillips D2S ballast

      Phillips 2nt gen D1S ballast

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      Re: Aftermarket HID Data - If you have installed a kit read this (theshadow27)

      35W Kaixen 5000K's installed (purchased via SS GB last fall) in the 08 C70 in December 2009. DRL's disabled. Absolutely no problems or issues (no harness, no BOW).

      Mrs. T's 05 V50 has the factory HID's (35W 5000K?). Can't really see a difference between the 2 cars now.

      I replaced the stock halogen High Beam H11's with 65W Toshiba HIR 9011's from [email protected] about a month ago. Really like the 'whiter' light and 'throw' of these vs. the stock halogen High Beams. You can also buy these at http://store.candlepower.com/9011.html (better price?)

      I also replaced the "City Lights" with LED's from eBay. Really like the whiter light/look of the LED's.

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      Re: Aftermarket HID Data - If you have installed a kit read this (theshadow27)

      First time used the battery harness, BOW message displayed on 35W @ 8,000k kit

      Tried using these to eliminate bow and fried the wwm with the same 35w kit

      tried the Sharphid bow harness with the same 35w kit and worked with no bow message for about a year

      upgraded to a 55w kit for low beams and moved 35w kit to fog lights, one side only lighted, so i just took the bow harness off and put the halogens back on until i ordered another one from sharphid, but your stuff fell from heaven lol

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      Re: Aftermarket HID Data - If you have installed a kit read this (heico2.4i)

      Quote, originally posted by heico2.4i »
      35W @ 8,000k kit

      Do you remember the brand?

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      Shadow-forgot to mention that I have my drl's disabled, but my sister's car does not. Just for more info for the file.
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      Re: Aftermarket HID Data - If you have installed a kit read this (theshadow27)

      Quote, originally posted by theshadow27 »

      Do you remember the brand?

      Tech one

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      Re: (genjy)

      Quote, originally posted by Veefifty T5AWD »
      Shadow-forgot to mention that I have my drl's disabled, but my sister's car does not. Just for more info for the file.

      Got it So you have 35w Kaixen's w/DRL disabled in your V50 and your sister has 35w Kaixen's w/o DRLs disabled in her S40.

      Quote, originally posted by heico2.4i »
      Tech one

      Thanks

      Quote, originally posted by genjy »

      Yeah. I have a set of Raptors waiting to be installed... I don't mind the size, as long as they are durable and reliable.

      I don't have experience with the Rapotrs, but so far we have about 9.1 years of success with DDM slim 55w between us.

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      Re: (theshadow27)

      Quote, originally posted by theshadow27 »

      Got it So you have 35w Kaixen's w/DRL disabled in your V50 and your sister has 35w Kaixen's w/o DRLs disabled in her S40.

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      Re: Aftermarket HID Data - If you have installed a kit read this (theshadow27)

      (1) A few Months ago

      (2) 35w 8000k brand http://www.euroefx.com/

      (3) just the ballast plug and play "Low beam failure" only displayed when my lights where in the auto position due to 2 low of wattage so i just got my Volvo dealer to flash my system to make it an off switch instead of auto

      i have not had to replace my wiper motor (WMM) after installing your HID kit

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      Guys, please save me a search(I'm a bit pressed for time ATM too). I have an 05 s40 t5 with bi-xenons and I'm looking to get some low beam HID kits (6000k I guess). Can anybody give me a link to where I can order from and a recommendation of what I should be ordering? I would appreciate the help!

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      Re: (ProBoner)

      Quote, originally posted by jbassett30 »
      (1) A few Months ago

      (2) 35w 8000k brand http://www.euroefx.com/

      (3) just the ballast plug and play "Low beam failure" only displayed when my lights where in the auto position due to 2 low of wattage so i just got my Volvo dealer to flash my system to make it an off switch instead of auto

      i have not had to replace my wiper motor (WMM) after installing your HID kit

      I can't find a HID kit on that website (http://www.euroefx.com). Did you install a HID kit (bulbs, ballasts, requires drilling a hole in the headlight housing) in place of the halogen capsules?

      Or are you referring to these halogen incandescent bulbs that are not HID (High Intensity Discharge)?

      Quote, originally posted by ProBoner »
      Guys, please save me a search(I'm a bit pressed for time ATM too). I have an 05 s40 t5 with bi-xenons and I'm looking to get some low beam HID kits (6000k I guess).

      If you have factory bi-xenon why do you need an HID kit? This really doesn't belong in this thread. But FYI with the stock bi-xenon the bulb is a D2S. You can find this info in the online factory manual, linked to from the short cut thread stickied at the top of this forum.
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      Re: (theshadow27)

      Quote, originally posted by theshadow27 »

      I can't find a HID kit on that website (http://www.euroefx.com). Did you install a HID kit (bulbs, ballasts, requires drilling a hole in the headlight housing) in place of the halogen capsules?

      Or are you referring to these halogen incandescent bulbs that are not HID (High Intensity Discharge)?


      If you have factory bi-xenon why do you need an HID kit? This really doesn't belong in this thread. But FYI with the stock bi-xenon the bulb is a D2S. You can find this info in the online factory manual, linked to from the short cut thread stickied at the top of this forum.


      Sorry bro didn't realize they must have took down the info from there web page ...I got the HID Kit at the La auto show for $80 but not sure what they go for normally

      here is some pix's of it with info in case you wana call them and see if they still offer the kits

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      I got mine half a year ago. Within two months, my right side HID went out. IIRC, It was due to a failed capacitator but theshadow27 would know best.

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      Re: Aftermarket HID Data - If you have installed a kit read this (theshadow27)

      Three questions:
      (1) When you installed the kit (approximately, like a year ago, a month ago, etc...)
      I installed the Kit Dec 2009.
      (2) If the kit is 35w or 55w (if you're not sure it's probably 35w), and the brand if you remember.
      Its a 35W 5000K system. It was Kaixen (through the group buy)
      See Herehttps://forums.swedespeed.com/zerothread?id=125013 and Here https://forums.swedespeed.com/zerothread?id=124833
      (3) If a battery harness, BOW eliminator, etc... was required for the kit to work, and if so, is the "Low beam failure" message still displayed.
      I simply connected the plug and play setup into the cars current power wiring harness for the bulb. I have had only one Low Beam Failure message and that was bc my car started with a SSS (and one of the ballasts didn't fully fire the bulb, turned the car off removed key and it has been fine ever since)
      This was a really great kit and the visual difference was amazing, (I would have gone with the 55w kit but they ran out).

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      Do the raptors need BOW eliminators?
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      Re: (Zarb)

      Quote, originally posted by Zarb »
      Do the raptors need BOW eliminators?

      Maybe, but just because someone did it doesn't make it a good idea. As I've said before:

      Quote, originally posted by theshadow27 »

      Yes it's possible for an aftermarket HID kit to work without a warning. Certainly there are some kits that work out of the box.

      No it's not possible for an aftermarket HID kit to function normally.

      Here's the analogy: Take a bunch of cars (BMW, Volvo, Honda, Ford, etc..) and fill up the tank with 9 gallons of fuel and 1 gallon of water. Is it possible for for some of them to run without a warning? Sure. Will some refuse to start? Absolutely. Is it good for any of them? No.

      Just because it works doesn't mean it's good for the ballast or the electrical system. One, or both, will fail much sooner than otherwise because neither is running under design spec conditions.

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