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      Winter Wheel Thread

      So I emailed Gary at TireRack regarding potential winter wheel packages for the Polestar. And as I expected, below was the email exchange. Let this Thread serve as information regarding winter wheel packages, tires, etc...And post up your pics once the flakes start to fall!

      Hi Gary,
      I have a 2015.5 Volvo V60 Polestar on order (only 120 being brought over here). I will need a winter tire package, but I'm not sure if you guys will have one listed given the small number of cars coming here to the States. Below are the specs. Have anything that would work? Thanks

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      Thanks for your inquiry.

      You're right, unfortunately we would need access to the car in our South Bend, IN facility during a time when we can perform a full brake profile and suspension scan in order to be able to guarantee a fitment. You may want to consider simply mounting winter tires on your current wheels if they are available. I should have more information on this seasons upcoming winter tires, typically mid to late September.

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      I would strongly suggest that you do not use the stock wheels for mounting and dismounting winter tires. Our tire program will, for sure, offer winter tires to fit these Volvos.
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      Quote Originally Posted by GrecianVolvo View Post
      I would strongly suggest that you do not use the stock wheels for mounting and dismounting winter tires. Our tire program will, for sure, offer winter tires to fit these Volvos.
      I agree. I always use a dedicated setup for winter use, but I think Gary was just reminding us of the option.

      I'm sure Volvo will come out with a package, but I would imagine at a steep cost if they are anything like BMW. I always use TR and have had no complaints
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      I've really been stressing about this cost. Between winter set ups and eventually replacing these huge brakes, I'm beginning to have buyer's remorse.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Polestar View Post
      I've really been stressing about this cost. Between winter set ups and eventually replacing these huge brakes, I'm beginning to have buyer's remorse.
      I doubt that 19's will clear the Brembos so most likely a 20" wheel/tire setup for winter.........which will be $$$$$$
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      According to the 370mm Brembos, a 19" wheel must fit!

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      Quote Originally Posted by Foxy View Post
      According to the 370mm Brembos, a 19" wheel must fit!
      Dunno. Those front calipers look awful big to me (and not much clearance with 20's).
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      Quote Originally Posted by MagoonR View Post
      Dunno. Those front calipers look awful big to me (and not much clearance with 20's).
      The current Australian version has the new Brembos and rides on 19" wheels. I think that is the smallest diameter possible.

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      Quote Originally Posted by gtsxr View Post
      The current Australian version has the new Brembos and rides on 19" wheels. I think that is the smallest diameter possible.
      my sales [erson says there will be a wheel with more rubber. australia seems to confirm.

      by the way, how many s60/v60 pole stars (2012.5) does australia receive?

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      Quote Originally Posted by s60r05 View Post
      my sales [erson says there will be a wheel with more rubber. australia seems to confirm.

      by the way, how many s60/v60 pole stars (2012.5) does australia receive?
      It was supposed to be 100. Not sure if that was the final number or not....side note, the first Polestars in Au were used as a test bed for demand in other markets...I guess there was enough!

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      thanks, now i'm curious about the netherland sweden and japan. no-one here from japan, perhaps they have their own swedespeed?

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      While internet researching the international allocation of the MY2015/2015.5 Polestars I came across some relevant winter tires information for this thread.

      There are three different specs of winter tyre available on a choice of 19 and 20-inch rims. This will include Michelin Pilot Alpin and X-Ice North 3. I suspect PA4 due to its available sizes: http://www.michelinman.com/tire-sele...4/tire-details

      Looks like the 19" rim will be similar or same as the MY2014 S60 Polestars in Australia. See bottom of page 12 and top of page 13: http://www.volvocars.com/nl/Document...2-mei-2014.pdf

      Personally I would buy those 19" rims and install Nokian Hakkapeliitta R2 (http://www.nokiantires.com/winter-ti...kapeliitta-r2/). Not sure which size would best fit those rims. That would be used for my Tahoe ski trips and driving back to Vancouver (Canada, eh) in the winter. I have a set of Nokian Hakkapeliitta winter tires and steel rims for my 850 which were excellent for my Whister and other BC ski trips. I now understand why rally racers love using Nokian tires in the winter.

      And I need to find the best chains/cables for that 19" winter tire setup due to California's chain control requirements.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Opus007 View Post
      While internet researching the international allocation of the MY2015/2015.5 Polestars I came across some relevant winter tires information for this thread.

      There are three different specs of winter tyre available on a choice of 19 and 20-inch rims. This will include Michelin Pilot Alpin and X-Ice North 3. I suspect PA4 due to its available sizes: http://www.michelinman.com/tire-sele...4/tire-details

      Looks like the 19" rim will be similar or same as the MY2014 S60 Polestars in Australia. See bottom of page 12 and top of page 13: http://www.volvocars.com/nl/Document...2-mei-2014.pdf

      Personally I would buy those 19" rims and install Nokian Hakkapeliitta R2 (http://www.nokiantires.com/winter-ti...kapeliitta-r2/). Not sure which size would best fit those rims. That would be used for my Tahoe ski trips and driving back to Vancouver (Canada, eh) in the winter. I have a set of Nokian Hakkapeliitta winter tires and steel rims for my 850 which were excellent for my Whister and other BC ski trips. I now understand why rally racers love using Nokian tires in the winter.

      And I need to find the best chains/cables for that 19" winter tire setup due to CA's crazy chain patrol requirements. They love chains here. Got winter tires and AWD? Too bad. When it snows in the mountain passes and chain patrol is active you put on chains or turn around.
      Love Nokians. Used them in Calgary for a couple of years and they're great. Lived in Van for a few years...mucho miss it...

      I just moved to CA and wasn't aware of needing chains. Wouldn't having winter tire ratings be enough?

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      In California you are required to carry chains when traveling though snow country.
      http://www.dot.ca.gov/hq/roadinfo/wntrdriv.htm
      http://www.dot.ca.gov/hq/roadinfo/G-...riving2013.pdf

      I have experienced an upgraded R3 chain requirement after passing the chain control checkpoint. The conditions became so bad that many vehicles with snow tires put on their chains. Fortunately I was on a ski bus so I observed the mayhem in comfort while watching a movie.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Opus007 View Post
      In California you are required to carry chains when traveling though snow country.
      http://www.dot.ca.gov/hq/roadinfo/wntrdriv.htm
      http://www.dot.ca.gov/hq/roadinfo/G-...riving2013.pdf

      I have experienced an upgraded R3 chain requirement after passing the chain control checkpoint. The conditions became so bad that many vehicles with snow tires put on their chains. Fortunately I was on a ski bus so I observed the mayhem in comfort while watching a movie.
      Thanks for the links! Useful.

      Cheers.

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      I received confirmed information about the official Polestar winter wheels. The wheels are, like I assumed before, the 19x8 rims from the aussie Polestar fitted with Michelin Pilot Alpin PA4 in 235/40R19.

      The 19" diameter is the smallest you can go. 18" rims DO NOT fit over the brembo brakes.

      Best regards

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      Quote Originally Posted by Foxy View Post
      I received confirmed information about the official Polestar winter wheels. The wheels are, like I assumed before, the 19x8 rims from the aussie Polestar fitted with Michelin Pilot Alpin PA4 in 235/40R19.

      The 19" diameter is the smallest you can go. 18" rims DO NOT fit over the brembo brakes.

      Best regards
      Thanks Foxy
      Is the offset the same ET53?
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      You're welcome.

      I dont know about the offset for shure, but I guess its the same.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Foxy View Post
      I received confirmed information about the official Polestar winter wheels. The wheels are, like I assumed before, the 19x8 rims from the aussie Polestar fitted with Michelin Pilot Alpin PA4 in 235/40R19.
      Thanks for the confirmed information. Did you get a price on a set of those winter wheels? Those PA4's are listed at $376 MSRP per tire.
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      No price yet. You wont be able to compare the prices anyway, because I live in switzerland. The price in a netherland booklet was 3000 Euro for all 4 wheels incl. the tires.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Kief View Post
      Thanks Foxy
      Is the offset the same ET53?

      I just checked, where do you got ET53 from??

      The Polestar 20" offset is ET55
      The Polestar 19" offset is ET51

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      Quote Originally Posted by Foxy View Post
      I just checked, where do you got ET53 from??

      The Polestar 20" offset is ET55
      The Polestar 19" offset is ET51
      See Post #1 above
      I found the specs here:
      http://www.nextpolestar.com/#/specifications
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      Thats weird, the sheet (official volvo/polestar) I've got in front of me says ET55...

      So I dont know which number is correct...

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      If the Pirelli Sotto Zero is available in the size we need I'd get them again in a heartbeat. I've had many performance winter tires and the Pirelli surprised me how good they are. They were run flats too. I'll likely get some rims and those tires.
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      FWIW, I'm running Michelin Aplin 4's on my Saab NG 9-5 AWD and love them! I'm sure they come in a size that fits the PoleStar since they were designed for high performance cars.
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      Someone needs to locate a wheel that is going to fit. We have the recommended tire size, but I for one do not want to pay for a Volvo Complete Tire set $$$
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      Quote Originally Posted by Opus007 View Post
      In California you are required to carry chains when traveling though snow country.
      http://www.dot.ca.gov/hq/roadinfo/wntrdriv.htm
      http://www.dot.ca.gov/hq/roadinfo/G-...riving2013.pdf

      I have experienced an upgraded R3 chain requirement after passing the chain control checkpoint. The conditions became so bad that many vehicles with snow tires put on their chains. Fortunately I was on a ski bus so I observed the mayhem in comfort while watching a movie.
      quick hijack: I've driven on HWY 80 from Bay Area to Truckee at least a dozen times in snow in last 5 or so years, and I've never been told to put my chains on, once they saw I had snowflakes on my tires. I still carry them, just in case we get stopped.

      I stand corrected (probably), as I may not have experienced an "R3"

      (from the link, above) Chain Requirements:

      R1: Chains, traction devices or snow tires are required on the drive axle of all vehicles except four wheel/ all wheel drive vehicles.
      R2: Chains or traction devices are required on all vehicles except four wheel/ all wheel drive vehicles with snow-tread tires on all four wheels.
      (NOTE: Four wheel/all wheel drive vehicles must carry traction devices in chain control areas.)
      R3: Chains or traction devices are required on all vehicles, no exceptions.
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      I am originally from CA and was always under the impression that "chains required" was only for commercial vehicles. But I'm from southern california and so you never needed chains, ever. haha.
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      Since it appears our cars will be arriving only shortly before the snows, a bit of planning is warranted.

      Most people prefer to run stock sizes only. For those who don't, 1010tires has a great comparison tool.

      Now as:
      a) speedos seem to run 5% (ish, or more) slower than actual these days, and
      b) I want a wider sidewall than stock for rim safety but still keep the speedo under a 3% increase as too much of an increase can put modern vehicles into limp mode ...

      I will likely choose to run a 235-45R19 for winter, and once the summer tires wear down if the wheel-well depth supports it, I will run a 255-35R20 all around in summer.

      This link provides the operational comparison of sizes [245/35R20 , 235/45R19 , 255/35R20] , and lists for us all the tires 1010tires has in those sizes which is an excellent reference in general; not limited to snows but all of them.

      http://www.1010tires.com/Tools/Tire-...5R19/255-35R20

      I feel the difference in speedo is well within tolerance, the speedo will still read faster than actual, and I'll have more sidewall to protect against bent rims in some small way.

      P.S. oh, but the 255 section width I'd like to run in summer isn't recommended on the stock 8" wide rim.
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      Why would you go 255 in summer? Polestar had months to find the best tire size performancewise. If 255 would have been better, dont you think they would have consider them? Plus, 255 on a 8" wide rim is very unuseual (I had 255 on a 9" rim on my Aufi TTS). I dont think this is a good idea, I think the tires might even touch/scratch the inside (sry, do no the proper expression in english)

      But of course, in the end it's your oen decision. Just wanna tell you my thoughts.

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      Anyone find a wheel yet, other than the 19" Aussie Polestar wheel?
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      Quote Originally Posted by Foxy View Post
      Why would you go 255 in summer? Polestar had months to find the best tire size performancewise. If 255 would have been better, dont you think they would have consider them? Plus, 255 on a 8" wide rim is very unuseual (I had 255 on a 9" rim on my Aufi TTS). I dont think this is a good idea, I think the tires might even touch/scratch the inside (sry, do no the proper expression in english)

      But of course, in the end it's your own decision. Just wanna tell you my thoughts.
      No problem; you expressed it perfectly and better than I {or google translate} ever would have in the other direction . Thanx.

      I think it's a combination of things, one of them also being the economics of offering an 8.5" or 9" or 10" wheel, or availability of it, that kept them from going wider. Not that it can't be better if it can fit.

      I know the difficulties trying to upsize in width in the front very well. Often one can upsize one step [10mm] with the stock rim or with aftermarket rims having close to stock but different offsets to alter the centerline as required for fit. But upsizing two steps is difficult often requiring a rim with that perfect offset plus possibly some modifications to the wheel-well.

      As you'll note in my "p.s." I realized the 245mm we'll get is probably already upsized one or two steps, and is also the max the stock rim will support. So that'll be a no go, and will mandate finding that 'perfect' rim with the 'prefect', yet to be determined offset, that lets the tire fit within the mm. (if it will at all; tbd)

      Why? gggggrrrrriiiippp !!!
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      Quote Originally Posted by Kief View Post
      Anyone find a wheel yet, other than the 19" Aussie Polestar wheel?
      I haven't researched which rims with our bolt patterns have the offset [within a few mm] we need yet.
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      Here are the Polestar recommendations on winter rims and tires:

      Quote Originally Posted by Kief View Post
      -What are the smallest wheel dimensions (19"?, offset? spoke design) that will clear the brakes for winter use?
      Quote Originally Posted by PolestarOfficial View Post
      4 –*The smallest wheel dimensions are 19" and we strongly recommend to use the Polestar 19" wheels as other 19" Volvo rims will not clear the brakes.
      Quote Originally Posted by Opus007 View Post
      - What are Polestar's recommended winter tires? What were the requirements for deciding the winter tires?
      Quote Originally Posted by PolestarOfficial View Post
      1 –*We recommend the following winter tires for the S/V60 Polestar: Michelin Pilot Alpin PA4 235/40 R19 96W XL and Pirelli W 270 Sotto zero S2 235/40 R19 96W XL. These have been tested as thoroughly as we have tested summer tires for the car.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Foxy View Post
      No price yet. You wont be able to compare the prices anyway, because I live in switzerland. The price in a netherland booklet was 3000 Euro for all 4 wheels incl. the tires.
      There was a price guaranteed over here, for 4 complete wheels, including TPMS and Pirelli SZII 270 Tires, for ordering by today.
      What the price will be in the future, we'll see.
      The price tag was chf 4'400.- incl. Tax (Rims 2'200, Tires 1'000, TPMS 300, fitting)
      The Dutch price is excl. TPMS, it's a extra €450.-

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