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      Hello Audi, goodbye Volvo!



      I honestly haven't been this excited about a car since the V50. I have definitely found my soul mate in a machine. A truly gorgeous (near flawless design) car.

      I thought the V50 had me sold, but Audi has done it. A 2.0T producing 200hp (easily chipped), Quattro, a 6-spd manual in a tighter package than the V50 at the same price. Better interior than Volvo too.

      I'm sorry to leave you Volvo, but in a year or so, this car will be mine (I'll take Nogaro Blue).


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      Re: Hello Audi, goodbye Volvo! (ACD)

      Audi > Volvo
      Audi > Saab
      Audi > BMW
      Audi > Mercedes
      Porsche > Audi


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      Re: Hello Audi, goodbye Volvo! (anony00gt)

      Pick one up for me when you get it ok?

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      Re: Hello Audi, goodbye Volvo! (ACD)

      If I read it correctly, you will wait at least a year for a Quattro. Initially, only the FWD will be available and the Quattro will follow later.
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      Re: Hello Audi, goodbye Volvo! (MagoonR)

      I'll be in NYC for a couple of years so, if I must wait I will.

      FMonk...just tell me what color scheme and engine you want. Just go easy on the options...I'm not made of money

      anony00gt...you are so right. I'm a Porsche/Audi guy at heart. Nothing beats them.

      My future garage:

      Porsche 911 (993) (red/black leather)
      Porsche 356 A (silver/red leather)
      Audi A3 Sportback (nogaro blue/black leather)
      Audi A6 2.7T (bright red/black leather)


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      Re: Hello Audi, goodbye Volvo! (anony00gt)

      Quote, originally posted by anony00gt »
      Audi > Volvo
      Audi > Saab
      Audi > BMW
      Audi > Mercedes
      Porsche > Audi

      FORD >>>>> Porsche


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      Re: Hello Audi, goodbye Volvo! (Kai)

      Quote, originally posted by Kai »

      FORD >>>>> Porsche

      Well, since you bring it up...


      Ford > Porsche
      Chevy > Porsche
      MOPAR (real MOPAR) > Porsche

      ...until the road starts to curve

      Sorry, there truly is no replacement for displacement


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      Re: Hello Audi, goodbye Volvo! (ACD)

      Quote, originally posted by ACD »


      The A3 is a very nice car, especially the redesigned model. One of my uncles, in Greece, bought a 2003 A3 1.8T, FWD. Drives very nice but not very differently than a Golf GTI (same size car). But the interior is leagues ahead from the Golf and Audi is known for the best interiors around.

      It is unfair (to you) that you are comparing this to a V50. Very different cars since the V50 is a larger car. If you want utility and semi-descent storage area with your next car, the A3 may disappoint you.

      Nice car but keep in mind that you will be buying a car the size of a VW Golf. If you are OK with that, then you should be happy.

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      Re: Hello Audi, goodbye Volvo! (GrecianVolvo)

      Quote, originally posted by GrecianVolvo »

      Nice car but keep in mind that you will be buying a car the size of a VW Golf. If you are OK with that, then you should be happy.

      Yannis

      Check out Autoweek.com for more info. The A3 is based on the new Golf platform.

      http://www.autoweek.com/cat_co...47578

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      Re: Hello Audi, goodbye Volvo! (MagoonR)

      I was going to say that but you all beat me to the punch.
      Think of the A3 as a very good looking Golf.
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      Re: Hello Audi, goodbye Volvo! (MagoonR)

      Quote, originally posted by MagoonR »

      Check out Autoweek.com for more info. The A3 is based on the new Golf platform.

      http://www.autoweek.com/cat_co...47578

      I know that, that is why I mentioned the Golf. Even the previous A3 was based on the current Golf platform...

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      Re: Hello Audi, goodbye Volvo! (anony00gt)

      Quote, originally posted by anony00gt »

      Well, since you bring it up...


      Ford > Porsche
      Chevy > Porsche
      MOPAR (real MOPAR) > Porsche

      ...until the road starts to curve

      Sorry, there truly is no replacement for displacement

      Tell that to the 4.6l Mustang GT I just embarassed in my 3.2l Boxster S Anniversary Edition. Or even better, the 5.7l Z28 Camaro


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      Quote, originally posted by ChuckV »

      Tell that to the 4.6l Mustang GT I just embarassed in my 3.2l Boxster S Anniversary Edition. Or even better, the 5.7l Z28 Camaro

      You meant you embarassed them in the twisties, right?


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      Re: Hello Audi, goodbye Volvo! (GrecianVolvo)

      Quote, originally posted by GrecianVolvo »

      The A3 is a very nice car, especially the redesigned model. One of my uncles, in Greece, bought a 2003 A3 1.8T, FWD. Drives very nice but not very differently than a Golf GTI (same size car). But the interior is leagues ahead from the Golf and Audi is known for the best interiors around.

      It is unfair (to you) that you are comparing this to a V50. Very different cars since the V50 is a larger car. If you want utility and semi-descent storage area with your next car, the A3 may disappoint you.

      Nice car but keep in mind that you will be buying a car the size of a VW Golf. If you are OK with that, then you should be happy.

      Yannis

      The regular A3 is definitely the size of Golf but this is the sportback. I'm hoping those extra five or so cubic feet will make the difference. Yannis you're right, they are not really the same class of car, but I rarely fold down the seats in the 850. I figure I'll just start folding them in this and I'll have the same amount of room.


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      Re: Hello Audi, goodbye Volvo! (ACD)

      Just remember this is a TINY car/wagon
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      Re: Hello Audi, goodbye Volvo! (JRL)

      LOL!!!!! I think it's unfair for that miserable thing to compare it to a Volvo...
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      Re: Hello Audi, goodbye Volvo! (Alex960)

      Quote, originally posted by Alex960 »
      LOL!!!!! I think it's unfair for that miserable thing to compare it to a Volvo...

      Well, you know me....I am all for Volvo but the A3 is far from being a "miserable thing"...

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      Re: Hello Audi, goodbye Volvo! (JRL)

      I know exactly what I'm looking for in my next car, small enough to fit in little spots, manuever well in traffic and still be able to hold a significant amount when the seats are folded down. This will fit the bill as it is definitely bigger than my Golf (which was a good size for me) and smaller than my 850 which I find too big at this point in my life.

      I think the premium compact class is perhaps one of the most brilliant ideas. Lots of great features and sophistication in a small package. Look at how successful the Mini is. Same principle. You see all these rich guys driving them. It's just smart. If I need a bigger car I'll buy an A6 to go with it.

      I'm so excited!


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      Re: Hello Audi, goodbye Volvo! (Alex960)

      Quote, originally posted by Alex960 »
      LOL!!!!! I think it's unfair for that miserable thing to compare it to a Volvo...

      Talk about ironic. You bought a big mid-nineties car with early eighties technology in europe! Need I say more?


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      Re: Hello Audi, goodbye Volvo! (ACD)

      Technically, Audis are outstanding, no doubt.

      But they have no "soul", in their design (exterior and interior), the driving feel and because of the way of functionning of the company (aka modified Volkswagens). They are really just very good cars. As you say, the design is flawless, but it doesn't have anything exceptionally beautiful either, it doesn't have a flaw, but it doesn't have the opposite of a flaw either.

      Volvos are more than that! They have a spirit, an "ambience" and a real company philosophy, aims and almost ideology. This is not at all unique to Volvo. But Audi does not have it.

      If you think like me, your are a passionate Volvo fan.

      If you don't, then you are a pragmatic person who is interested in cars.

      (note that I'm not saying one is better that the other)

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      Re: Hello Audi, goodbye Volvo! (ChuckV)

      Quote, originally posted by ChuckV »

      Tell that to the 4.6l Mustang GT I just embarassed in my 3.2l Boxster S Anniversary Edition. Or even better, the 5.7l Z28 Camaro


      Try embarrasing a Ford GT with your Boxster...or with any Porsche in fact!

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      Re: Hello Audi, goodbye Volvo! (Alex960)

      Quote, originally posted by Alex960 »
      Technically, Audis are outstanding, no doubt.

      But they have no "soul", in their design (exterior and interior), the driving feel and because of the way of functionning of the company (aka modified Volkswagens). They are really just very good cars. As you say, the design is flawless, but it doesn't have anything exceptionally beautiful either, it doesn't have a flaw, but it doesn't have the opposite of a flaw either.

      Volvos are more than that! They have a spirit, an "ambience" and a real company philosophy, aims and almost ideology. This is not at all unique to Volvo. But Audi does not have it.

      If you think like me, your are a passionate Volvo fan.

      If you don't, then you are a pragmatic person who is interested in cars.

      (note that I'm not saying one is better that the other)

      I've been a passionate Volvo fan my whole life. I was fascinated by my neighbor's Volvos as a kid.

      That said, I feel the Audi brand fits me and my personality better. As for soul...drive an S4. That car is full of it. I'm happy with any car that puts a smile on my face and every Audi does.


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      Re: Hello Audi, goodbye Volvo! (ACD)

      Nothing wrong with Audis, it's just the "A3" is very small, that's all.
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      Re: Hello Audi, goodbye Volvo! (ACD)

      Quote, originally posted by ACD »

      I'm happy with any car that puts a smile on my face and every Audi does.

      "Every Audi" does that? Come on, let's not get carried away! Have you driven an A4 with the CVT? Have you driven an automatic A6 2.8 or even now with the 3.0 engine? Dull as the color gray....

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      Re: Hello Audi, goodbye Volvo! (GrecianVolvo)

      Isn't that the same with the 140 HP V70? Or the S80 2.9?

      The Audi is a nice car but way overrated and overpriced.
      The A3 has been based on VW technology from the first day. Also the new Golf isn't a big seller, way to expensive.

      The new A3 is a nice car to see on the street. It looks larger compared to an S40 which looks narrow and high like it can flip over at the first turn ( )

      Still it is a VW..

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      The one unfortunate thing about the A3 is that we (the U.S. market) are not allowed to get our hands on the model which some would really prefer, that being the 3 door, since AUDI exec's have decided not to bring that version over here ... at least for now.

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      I actually prefer the proportions of the 5-door A3.

      Yes, the A6 2.8 is milktoast. But the 2.7T and 4.2 are not. Nor is the S4, S8, S6, RS6, RS4, S3, shall I continue?

      And for every comparo that Audi has won, no reviewer said, we love the Audi, alas, it's still a Volkswagen. Volkswagens are great cars, Audis are just better.


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      As a matter of fact I have driven an S4 and an S8. S8 was not bad, fun for for a little while but I would get tired of it fast if I had one. And for that price there are many other cars I'd rather have. That also applies to the long list you give of S and RS models. With such huge motors, performance is there of course, but the "soul" still isn't. Even a BMW M5 for instance is more interesting and enjoyable.
      As for the S4, sure it's powerful, but for me that's all that car has. Power, and nothing around it. There's something that Audis just don't have.
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      Re: (ACD)

      Quote, originally posted by ACD »
      I actually prefer the proportions of the 5-door A3.

      I agree. The 3-door A3s 9and most cars of its size in that configuration) are not very practical, at all.

      Quote »
      Yes, the A6 2.8 is milktoast. But the 2.7T and 4.2 are not. Nor is the S4, S8, S6, RS6, RS4, S3, shall I continue?

      Yeah, but I thought you wrote "EVERY" Audi...

      BTW, VWs are not great cars...come on, now...The only GREAT VWs are the...911s...

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      Re: Hello Audi, goodbye Volvo! (ACD)

      Quote, originally posted by ACD »

      I was fascinated by my neighbor's Volvos as a kid.

      She must have been one serious MILF!!!!


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      Re: Hello Audi, goodbye Volvo! (Alex960)

      Quote, originally posted by Alex960 »


      Try embarrasing a Ford GT with your Boxster...or with any Porsche in fact!

      Carrera GT? perhaps?


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