All of the recent concepts had this lovely shoulder kink midway, then blending into a sharper edged slightly exaggerated hip (reminiscent of the P1800). I don't understand why this very important/key design element was ruled-out? It was an obvious nod to Volvo heritage and was well received by all who evaluated the concepts. It is not something so drastic that it could not be transferred to the four door production cars.
What we can do is to request them to adopt the concept hip lines in 60 series and beyond.
I would prefer the hip line being on one single car only: The C60. The hip line stands exclusively for the P1800 and I wouldn't like to see it watered down to the whole Volvo line-up. Someone invented it. Just as someone else invented the tall backlights and now the Thor's hammer lights. In the same way, new design elements can be invented today. Leave the P1800 as it is!
Here are some auto's at the time that had similar mid to rear quarter "flair":
People will pay a lot for a box if it's got RANGE ROVER or ESCALADE written on it.
Raw horsepower figures aren't everything to a discerning high luxury vehicle customer. The power delivery sensation also matters. Range Rover may offer a 4 cylinder option, like in the LR's, but it certainly won't be the only or premium option.
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Yesterday I saw some new pictures on the internet. (Carnewschina.com again).
silver color looks more bright and eye catching in car model. Black in real car is as common though. Still months away to see the real thing..
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Tom Schroeder Jr
Sales Manager, Volvo Cars Seattle
2018 V90 Cross Country T5 AWD, Crystal White/Charcoal (National Park Plates); 2019 S60 T6 AWD Inscription, POLESTAR, Black Stone/Charcoal (COUG Plates)
GT3 RS scale model was pretty much spot on. The same will hold true for the S/V90
Down to the interior
This whole if you want more cylinders look elsewhere argument is a pretty crappy way to build market share! Volvo is currently getting its butt kicked with regards to market share and is trying to increase it significantly. Telling it's potential highest margin customers to look elsewhere is not the way to do it.
I know how the world works and what a forum is. YOU are the one who didn't like what was being discussed. And I'll participate when and how I wish.
So feel free to have the last word once again, while I turn my attention back to the subject of this thread.
And a word of advice, which I know you won't take, maybe if you stopped responding to EVERY SINGLE comment about cylinder count with "Get over it" or "Deal with it" or "Look Elsewhere", then you wouldn't think people weren't complaining "to you" when they responded.
Btw, we're more than happy to avoid Volvo's if we must...goes without saying I would think. A new GLE would look just as nice in the garage. Funny, Samuelson (Volvo CEO) spews the same jive as you with the "avoid Volvo's"..."Volvo's not a brand for you.." Interesting arrogance for a brand struggling for relevance again.
I understand Volvo saved money in engine development but I'm not sure the future is all 4 cylinders in large cars. v and s90 are Mercedes E class and BMW 5 series sized cars and both have 6 cylinder engines while some E class cars have 8 cylinders.
It is a bit of a prestige thing. Downsizing for fuel economy is a nice idea, but if I look at my father's 2.0T V70... Economy is dreadful. Turbo's are only more economical if implemented correctly, and running extremely rich for the sake of engine temperature is a crappy fix...
My 2005 chrysler town&country has the exact same range for curb weight as my xc60. In fact, I think its fair to say the van is slightly less since I don't have a lot of options on it and the xc60 is on the heavier side of the range cause its loaded.
for the exact same driving routine: 24 miles a day in stop and go/stop light type traffic.
The 2005 van is a V6 and gets 18 mpg
The 2015 xc60 is inline 4 and gets 24 mpg.
Highway... forget it, xc60 gets 31 or higher, van never breaks 26, even when it was new.
so yes, this 4 cylinder is that good.
- XC60 T5 Drive-E MY-2015.5 Savile Grey Platinum w/ BLIS, Blond/Black Sport seats, Heated front. OSD -
We are getting over 29 MPG on the highway with our XC60 T6 AWD (~65 MPH). The engine is very smooth and has all the power you need in all scenarios. It is a legitimate luxury power plant. I've driven the 4 cylinder T5 XC60 as a loaner vehicle on multiple occasions, and I can only enjoy this engine when cruising below 2,500 RPMs. Accelerating beyond this, it is not a pleasant experience, from a sound or performance standpoint. If netting maybe 4 MPG more from a lesser 2 wheel drive SUV (yet $40K+ USD) regardless of driving experience is satisfactory, then more power to ya (not literally of course).
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Concept 26 dashboard. New Volvo S90.