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      Quote Originally Posted by likeXC90 View Post
      Unless you really want to easily track power input via the station, I recommend skipping buying the power station, using that free charger ($500+ value!) that came with your T8, and spend the $500 elsewhere (dash cam, PPF front bra, nice meal, jewelry for the wife, power tools, donation, Tesla stock, etc)
      I guess I figure I must be missing out on something,lol I will just stick with the boring free charger......ty
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      Quote Originally Posted by flames9 View Post
      I guess I figure I must be missing out on something,lol I will just stick with the boring free charger......ty
      Haha, IMO the ones buying the charger station are the ones missing something, ie $$$! but to be fair everyone has different needs . . .
      I included pictures of what my boring free charger setup looks like (post #245). Quick full charge in ~2.5 hours, just like those charger stations. Don't forget once you've plugged in (whether 120V or 240V or boring free charger or fancy charging station) your Volvo On Call app accurately predicts when your charge is done!
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      Good to have options, including having the DualCord as a backup. FWIW, my primary rationale for an EVSE is:

      The JuiceNet Pro 40, as an example,
      1. is small enough to be portable;
      2. is versatile enough to be plugged into various and common 240v receptacles (using supported adapters); and
      3. charges faster with 240v (since NEMA 6-20 is not readily available - assuming that public charging stations are not available).

      For me, it is unfortunate that the DualCord NEMA 6-20r 240v is not found in the wild except places with window a/c’s.

      There are more benefits for an EVSE, but I shared my primary ones FWIW.


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      Quote Originally Posted by likeXC90 View Post
      Haha, IMO the ones buying the charger station are the ones missing something, ie $$$! but to be fair everyone has different needs . . .
      I included pictures of what my boring free charger setup looks like (post #245). Quick full charge in ~2.5 hours, just like those charger stations. Don't forget once you've plugged in (whether 120V or 240V or boring free charger or fancy charging station) your Volvo On Call app accurately predicts when your charge is done!
      For me I use mine to schedule the charging as the electric rates vary on the time of day.


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      Quote Originally Posted by rogbmw View Post
      Several weeks ago we had the electricity ran in the garage in anticipation to getting the T8. We picked up our T8 one week ago, and realized that we had done a little overkill and the wrong type of plug. I tried to find out what type of plug the T8 charging cord takes, but could not find it written down - maybe I just overlooked it somewhere.

      According to the manual, the T8 charges at 15 Amps. We had a 50Amp circuit and plug installed with a NIMA 14-50 type plug, which was overkill.

      On Friday we changed out everything to meet the needs of the T8. Here is what you need:

      Plug Type: Legrand 5851 http://www.legrand.us/passandseymour...ngle/5851.aspx
      Circuit breaker: 20 Amps

      Of course you can remove the 120-240 adapter on the plug, and charge with 120, but it takes over 2 times as long.

      Hope this helps others getting ready for the T8.
      Like another fellow poster, I also went a bit overkill and had a NEMA 14-50 outlet installed and got a Juicebox 40 for home charging. We have it installed in a position where my husband could potentially use it whenever he finally changes to EV. However, there are NEMA 14-50 outlets available at work and I can’t exactly take the Juicebox with me so I found an alternative solution that lets me use the TurboCord that came with the car to plug in at work, and it makes me wonder if the Juicebox was even necessary in the first place.

      This is the extension with a female NEMA 6-20 (for 240V charging using the TurboCord) and a male NEMA 14-50 plug to attach to work EV charging station. It says it is compatible with the TurboCord.

      https://www.evseadapters.com/product...adapter-20-ft/

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      I previously installed a NEMA 14-50 for my Model 3 and got this adapter for the T8:
      Lectron 20" Long NEMA 6-20R to 14-50P EV Power Adapter (220V-240V) - Flexible Charging for Your EV https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07H5HKFMW/
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      Quote Originally Posted by PAWIKAN View Post
      Like another fellow poster, I also went a bit overkill and had a NEMA 14-50 outlet installed and got a Juicebox 40 for home charging. We have it installed in a position where my husband could potentially use it whenever he finally changes to EV. However, there are NEMA 14-50 outlets available at work and I can’t exactly take the Juicebox with me so I found an alternative solution that lets me use the TurboCord that came with the car to plug in at work, and it makes me wonder if the Juicebox was even necessary in the first place.

      This is the extension with a female NEMA 6-20 (for 240V charging using the TurboCord) and a male NEMA 14-50 plug to attach to work EV charging station. It says it is compatible with the TurboCord.

      https://www.evseadapters.com/product...adapter-20-ft/
      Thanks a lot for the links and good to know about that the adapter was purportedly designed or approved for the TurboDual. Has Aerovironment and/or Volvo approved it? Just curious.

      One could view a NEMA 14-50 as overkill for current T8 models that maxes out at 16A on 240v. However, several of us justified and chose wiring for 40A-50A and EVSEs to future-proof and avoid re-wiring. The T8 on-board chargers will surely be upgraded as Volvo starts all-Electric production options. (e.g., reportedly starting with XC40s in latter part of MY2020).

      Interestingly, I just ran another dedicated service for 20A 240v using the 6-20 for TurboDual since my utility recently started cycling / deactivating my off peak (Juicebox 40 Pro, NEMA 14-50) service between 7 am to 11 pm after 3 1/2 years.

      Peak service seems to run 15 cents per kWh in MN (7 cents off-peak). Since I cannot charge at work during the day, this was a good solution. Who knows when if ever Time of Use pricing will ever come for EV/PHEV in MN. Hope springs eternal.


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      GUYS where can i find the corresponding information But for the XC40?
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      Quote Originally Posted by Dilinger View Post
      GUYS where can i find the corresponding information But for the XC40?

      The info is the same.

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      Thanks for all the info provided on this page (and forum) finally got 240 service to my garage and sure is nice being able to charge up the XC60 much quicker. I just had the electrician install a simple wall receptacle, no real need for a fancy unit as the rates dont seem to differ here in Maryland at different times. Install of the cable was $500,they did it at the same time of the Generator install, Seemed like a fair price.
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      Anyone know where I can buy this adapter only? The AeroVironment adapter that converts our T8 adapter plug to NEMA 6-20P for 220 volts...

      Thanks

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      Quote Originally Posted by sdedson View Post
      Anyone know where I can buy this adapter only? The AeroVironment adapter that converts our T8 adapter plug to NEMA 6-20P for 220 volts...

      Thanks
      I don't know, but you could try Customer Service for EV Solutions at +1 (888) 833-2148 or [email protected].
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      Quote Originally Posted by Gary-16-Xc90 View Post
      I don't know, but you could try Customer Service for EV Solutions at +1 (888) 833-2148 or [email protected].
      Thanks unfortunately they have yet to answer an email or return my call... Perhaps to small a part to be bothered with. If anyone is willing sell theirs please let me know.

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      I noticed a lot of posts here from Volvo owners using JuiceBox:

      FYI - https://insideevs.com/news/393541/en...ox-ev-charger/

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      Quote Originally Posted by sdedson View Post
      I noticed a lot of posts here from Volvo owners using JuiceBox:

      FYI - https://insideevs.com/news/393541/en...ox-ev-charger/
      The Grizzl-E charger seems like a good option, anyone using it?

      https://www.grizzl-e.com/images/187y...eld-tested.jpg

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      Interesting new charger

      Check out this charger, very interesting at $399.00US.

      Grizzl-e is the most Simple, Robust and Affordable EVSE with ability to charge at 40A / 10 kW, but also could be set to operate at 16A/24A/32A for situations when your electric panel does not have enough power for 50A breaker.

      https://www.grizzl-e.com/products/grizzle/

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      Another one with multitude of settings and with integration with many third party systems https://www.openevse.com/stations.html.
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      For folks who have installed a 240V outlet to use charge at Level 2 speeds, what does the peak electricity rates for you look like? I was looking into getting a 240V outlet put in, but then I realized that in my area, it wouldn't make sense to ever use it. Peak electricity rates are $0.48/kwh, which means a full charge would cost around $4.80, so I'd be better off using gas (environment be damned). If I only charge during off-peak times ($0.17/kwh starting at midnight), even with a Level 1 charger I'll have a full battery by the morning, which would make the 240V outlet unnecessary.

      Am I missing something here? Is it just because we have astronomical electricity rates that 240V doesn't seem to make sense for me?
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      Quote Originally Posted by fiatlux View Post
      For folks who have installed a 240V outlet to use charge at Level 2 speeds, what does the off-peak electricity rates for you look like? I was looking into getting a 240V outlet put in, but then I realized that in my area, it wouldn't make sense to ever use it. Peak electricity rates are $0.48/kwh, which means a full charge would cost around $4.80, which means I'd be better off using gas (environment be damned). If I only charge during off-peak times ($0.17/kwh starting at midnight), even with a Level 1 charger I'll have a full battery by the morning, which would make the 240V outlet unnecessary.

      Am I missing something here? Is it just because we have astronomical electricity rates that 240V doesn't seem to make sense for me?
      No you are correct. I installed 240v to charge quickly on weekends... Also 240v charges in less than half the time as my level 1 charger...

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      Ultimately, just do what is best for your cost/benefit.

      I fortunate to have pre-tax rates of $0.07 kWh for cycled off-peak and $0.14 for non-cycled peak.

      I originally installed a 240v 50A to future proof for a BEV. This system is connected to the off-peak controlled cycle. I grew frustrated with the cycled off-peak which was not consistently controlled - resulting in a two-hour start/stop swing and making preconditioning schedules difficult. (Preconditioning in MN winters is a nice-to-have.)

      Thus, I installed the 240v 20A to use on non-cycled peak. I can charge in 2-2.5 hrs whenever I know I will travel from home more than once a day. The cost of the breaker, rated wire and receptacles were inexpensive to install - at least in my home.

      My home installation was allocated (on paper) 50,000 kwh from renewable resources - contributing in a small but incremental to a better climate.

      I am working with the local electric cooperative as a beta customer to implement either a more reliable RF equipment for cycling, or TOU system. A time of use system would be most advantageous since one can control costs and needs on a whim.



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