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      WG Track & Spectate Event - October 5-6

      The next Trackmasters Novice school at Watkins Glen is October 5-6. I do not intend a big bash, but I'll be there to either drive or spectate.

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      Re: WG Track & Spectate Event - October 5-6 (JimLill)


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      Re: WG Track & Spectate Event - October 5-6 (JimLill)

      I'm 90% sure I'll be signing up for this driving event, it should be my last as a novice as I'm ready to move up to the next level. Intermediate here I come.

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      Re: WG Track & Spectate Event - October 5-6 (JimLill)

      Report from our last Watkins Glen doings

      https://forums.swedespeed.com/zerothread?id=38686


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      Re: WG Track & Spectate Event - October 5-6 (JimLill)

      It's fun spectating these event. You get to walk around the Paddock area and check out various cars and talk to drivers. Also tons of places to watch the race and take pictures.

      I'm tempted to attend the school in the Fall. It was so fun being on the track with Jameson that it made me want to track my car. Plus it's a reasonable price per day for the school. I need to see how the car handles over the next couple of months or so and then decide. I know I'll have to get better brakes before tracking the car.

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      Re: WG Track & Spectate Event - October 5-6 (JimLill)

      I reserved a spot today! I have some catching up to do after missing the great event in May.

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      Hi All,

      Trackmasters is a great organization - been running with them for years!

      Were any of you at the COM event at WGI last week? I spoke with a V70R owner...

      Ray Bahr


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      Re: (JimLill)

      At the moment, I'll be there to assist with the mechanical work again. I'll try to get some better brakes and a set of 17" rims by then. Not enough $$ to get every thing done unfortunately.
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      Re: (Svenske Racing)

      Quote, originally posted by Svenske Racing »
      No promises... but we may be there again. Brice had such a fun time on the track... he wants to go again.

      lol

      Bring a helmet this time -- I may actually be there using mine.

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      miracle of miracles, my schedule is free at this point. as much as I am nervous about dinging my R, I'm contemplating the 12 hour drive each way. I'll start browsing through some of the relevant threads for more info.

      when's a reasonable TM deadline guestimate?

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      Re: (vizwiz)

      Quote, originally posted by vizwiz »
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      when's a reasonable TM deadline guestimate?

      Good question, my suggestion is that you review the cancellation policy (which I think is very reasonable) on their website ( https://www.trackmasters.com/P...ancel ) and then call to reserve your spot for the two days asap. If it's full, have them put you on the waitlist.

      Great to have you on board!


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      Re: (M-R)

      The headcount of drivers isn't finalized yet as a few are still on a waiting list. If you are coming as a spectator, I'll need to know your name(s) in advance to facilitate track entry. Besides the track activity, the local leaves and wineries will be in full swing.

      Time to get there (Mapquest times):

      NYC 4:30
      Wash DC 6:30
      Boston 6:15
      Cleveland 5:30
      Toronto 4:15
      Pittsburgh 5:30
      Philly 4:30


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      Re: (JimLill)

      So who is going to be there this time? Both confirmed drivers and spectators. I know Jim, Jay.... but I lost track over time. So who else?

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      Re: (M-R)

      I believe Billy Chan, but he'll have to confirm.

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      Re: (JimLill)

      I can't confirm until late Friday or Monday due to work schedule conflict.

      Will be tracking the car on 10/2 at BeaverRun to test out all the mod since May
      (Brakes/Pad, Spring and Sway + front camber kit)

      The F Camber allows up to 2 degree of adjustment +/-, pretty slick.

      Billy


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      Re: (JimLill)

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      Ah....... did not know they were "official" Volvo parts....
      How did you come up with that number?? Nice find...

      I got mine from IPD. They fit most FWD/AWD Volvo

      http://www.ipdusa.com/Products...D=629

      Find out today it WON'T work on the R, the way it is supposed to work is to enlarge the top hole and fit with a eccentric bolt and replace the lower bolt with a smaller one and the metal plate is used to line them up together and acts as a washer for the smaller bolt.

      On the R, the distance between the bolt is about 1" longer than metal plate and the bolts are too small.

      Sorry for the confusion - I was under the impression that the dealer/mechanic had put them on the car until I put it on the stand and can't find them anywhere.


      Modified by 05s60r at 8:30 PM 9-21-2005


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      Re: (05s60r)

      Many views of WG accessible from here...

      http://www.r-series.org/sbrs/

      [me in #66 Skip Barber with "Swedish motif" helmet]


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      Re: (JimLill)

      There'll be a few "goodie" bags to hand out.....

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      Re: (JimLill)

      Since this is a mid-week school, I'll guess we'll have few spectators. If you do show up, you can expect:

      - free admission
      - watch the school and open track cars
      - potential of a free ride at speed around the track (bring a helmet if possible)
      - free goodies
      - become a SS WG Pit Crew Member

      If you plan on coming, please contact me via e-mail so I cna get you on the guest list in advance


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      Re: (JimLill)

      just back.....

      In attendance:

      Jimlill, rharder, and M-R driving

      05s60R and guest

      Ttalpey as guest & photog

      Watch for reports here on:

      - IAT on track
      - Ti Brake shim performance
      - use of GT100 fuel

      and more


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      Re: (JimLill)

      Here the photo album..........

      Tom Talpey as photog, using my D70 for the first time........

      http://www.r-series.org/wg05oct

      #69 = JimLill
      #63 = rharder (Jay)
      #75 = M-R (Mathias)

      and yes Jay is passing the 'vette!


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      The Titanium brake shim/heat shield seems to work well. I was using the same PFC97 pads that SleepR and ChuckB used that created the gray->gold color change on their calipers. I may not have been braking as hard, But I saw a ony tinge only color shift. There was no change in the pedal, so the Typ200 didn't heat up. We also installed them in rharder's S60R. They fit perfect and install in minutes.

      I believe Alan (Takspeed) has them in production now and will have a SS intro sale.

      http://www.takspeed.com/store/...0f64a


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      Although we had an ecomo plan for rooms, we did dine at some nice restaurants....

      Billy, 05s60R picked a nice one right in WG, The Seneca Harbor Station

      I'll let the others comment on my choices!


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      Quote, originally posted by JimLill »
      - IAT on track

      Air Temp on the track peaked at 85F... ruuning 3.37 mile laps as fast at 115 and slow as 50 in the turns, I never saw an IAT higher than 112F


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      Jim, to give credit where credit is due, thats Mathias passing the vette and not me, not to say of course that I didn't pass my share of vettes, BMW's and even a 911 Turbo sevral times (driver ability and not cars ability before the subject gets out of hand). I noticed though that I was struggling a little to make 120mph on the back straight, until the last session on day two when I was out of gas so I filled up with 100 octane racing gas, after that 120+ was no problem. My stock R brakes held up just fine although I did remove the rotor back plate, flush the brake fluid and install Jim's Ti shims.
      Again, our instructors were very impressed with the preformance of the R's.
      Another successful Watkins Glen event, students and R's all went home as good as they came, maybe better as far as the students are concerned.

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      Glad you guys had fun. Sorry I missed out, although I do wish I was there now that the week is over.

      I should be there in the Spring.

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      Quote, originally posted by JimLill »
      Here the photo album..........

      Tom Talpey as photog, using my D70 for the first time........

      http://www.r-series.org/wg05oct

      #69 = JimLill
      #63 = rharder (Jay)
      #75 = M-R (Mathias)

      and yes Jay is passing the 'vette!


      It was fun shooting the cars, though access to the best angles, and the Trackmaster passing rules keeping the cars apart made it hard to get more of the live-action shots!

      The shots come from a few different spots. I set up from the Tower, above the start/finish line, then looking straight into turn 10 (kind of behind that berm), then between turns 5 and 6 (those ones where you can see the Nextel sign), finally right after turn 1 just as they entered the Esses. Those were the best ones from an action perspective, as I could shoot right over the Armcos.

      Nice camera, Jim! I used the 70mm lens, and a fixed 250 shutter setting. Jay's car was the toughest to shoot, for some reason the acquire time on him zooming by didn't always let me get a shot off! I didn't have time to get the AF-Lock worked out, but some of the shots around turn 9 (as they're coming up the hill) have it.

      Let me just get in one word that these guys did great. They all looked fantastic out there, especially Jay who got some solos and seems like he'll move up a notch. Jim and Mathias held some great lines and came in looking cool and collected. I was very impressed with the Trackmasters program and especially with that track!

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      Quote, originally posted by tmtalpey »
      Let me just get in one word that these guys did great. They all looked fantastic out there, especially Jay who got some solos and seems like he'll move up a notch. Jim and Mathias held some great lines and came in looking cool and collected. I was very impressed with the Trackmasters program and especially with that track!

      Yes , kudos to Jay.... he's right on schedule to move to intermediate and made the grade. I'll make that leap in the spring. There's no substitute for practice....


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      Re: (JimLill)

      Quote, originally posted by JimLill »
      Although we had an ecomo plan for rooms, we did dine at some nice restaurants....

      Billy, 05s60R picked a nice one right in WG, The Seneca Harbor Station

      I'll let the others comment on my choices!


      Well I missed the first nights but Jim and I went to a great one at the end! It was kind of a restaurant/bar in Hammondsport with great food and a fantastic winelist. The service was really friendly, I guess you might say it was kind of an international-flair version of Hooters. Go for the spicy paella like we did and you can't go wrong.

      Seriously - great restaurant and great time. Jim - what was the name, The Village Tavern?

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      Quote, originally posted by tmtalpey »
      Seriously - great restaurant and great time. Jim - what was the name, The Village Tavern?

      http://www.villagetaverninn.com/

      you didn't mention the Beer list, too bad Jay missed it........


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      Oh yeah... 130 beers with about a dozen on tap! The menu was literally a notebook with half a dozen beer and wines-by-the-glass pages, then oh, that wonderful food, then the back half all wines. Extraordinary.

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      Re: (JimLill)

      Yes! They are now available at the takspeed website, and have a 15% off intro special.

      See http://www.takspeed.com/store/...id=49

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      Ordered!!! Thanks guys... *Now* my 4 corners are complete...
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      I also had a discussion about brake fluid while there...........

      I lot of people use ATE Blue, a few knew that Typ200 was the same stuff

      Blue is not DOT approved due to its blue color

      http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/stati...4.pdf

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      Another excellent track event. Great driving, great weather, we all brought our cars back intact, what more could we ask for.

      I had lots of fun as always and the car performed wonderfully. I did not change anything on my car, ran completely stock with the exception of the TrackR brakelines and a fresh serving of Motul RBF 600 in them.

      This was my first visit to WGI after the IRL changes and I noticed that it took me a while to take the Esses at full throttle again like I used to. I can only imagine that the catch fences made it feel/look a bit different to me. Weird. But practice makes perfect.

      The student group this time was much more of a mixed bag then at the previous events, more inconsistent drivers than usual.

      Jim - thank you again for the nice accomodations you arranged for us.

      Jay - thanks for the astronomy lesson, being a citykid I never saw that before.

      Tom - thanks for the great pics, I hope to see you on track next time we go.

      Everyone! This is great fun, join us next time!


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