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      2011 R-design - switching from 20 to 18 inch wheels

      It's time to change tires, and this time I'd like to go with something that performs better in snow and on rough dirt roads. I mainly use the car for commute, but in the mountains is where I really need it to perform well, since that's practically every weekend. Any tire will do fine for commuting, but better performance in snow is always good, and in the summer the roads to the hiking trails here (pacific northwest) can still be rough at times.

      Currently I have the Pirelli Scorpion 255/45R20, and I'd like to switch to something more suitable for my needs. I was thinking 235 R18. Does anyone have recommendations for specific tires?

      What about rims? I know 18 inches will look *very* different - what would look nice? (Nothing fancy - just don't want to kill the aesthetic)

      This is what the car looks like (not mine but exactly same appearance):

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      You might find this thread of interest: https://forums.swedespeed.com/showthr...-some-opinions Although it's for the XC90, the rolling diameters are the same.

      If you go to The Tire Rack.com and choose "wheel & tire package" you can choose 18" and see what's available. Also Discount Tire Direct.com.

      Personally I wouldn't want to give up on the 20's and a good performance A/S in the summer, I'd be looking to buy an 18" wheel with a great winter/performance tire like the Pirelli Winter Scorpion for the winter. Your winter commute would be much better than going with an off-road style tire.
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      18 inch rims don't look terrible on the XC60's we have 18 inch rims for winter. We just have the generic stock Volvo rim with them.

      As for a tire that will perform good in snow/mud and also not terrible in summer you'd want an all weather tire like the Nokian Rotiiva AT Plus.

      I think your biggest problem is going to be trying to find a 235 that works. Most will be 265-275 R18.
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      I have 18" Volvo Zephyrus wheels on my R-Design for winter, and I think it looks pretty good


      There are some 18" Titania wheels over on the Wheel and Tire classifieds off a newer XC60, I think those would look pretty great.

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      We just put on Scorpion Verde All Season Plus 235/60-18 V rated; got a good deal from Sam's Club. These tires are much better in weather than the OEM Michelin Latitudes, plus have a super long 740 tread wear rating.

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      My parents hated the stock Pirelli Scorpion tires they had on their two XC60's they owned (2010 XC60RD and 2014 XC60 T6awd) with 20" wheels. They ended up putting Continental ExtremeContact DWS06 tires on the 2014 and it transformed how that car drove in both rain and snow; better confidence and road feel!
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      Quote Originally Posted by Bmo Pete View Post
      We just put on Scorpion Verde All Season Plus 235/60-18 V rated; got a good deal from Sam's Club. These tires are much better in weather than the OEM Michelin Latitudes, plus have a super long 740 tread wear rating.

      http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....0Valve%20Stems

      I'm surprised you didn't car much for the Michelin Latitudes that were on your XC60. We have the same tire on our 2016 XC60 but for 19" wheel and they performed flawlessly in the snow last winter; though these Latitudes are V-rated and I believe the 18" wheels get H-rated tires. For us I'm not worried about the tire wear on them, it'll be back in the dealers possession long before they need replacing when we bring it back from its lease. Currently we only have 12,000 miles (1yr 6mo into the 3yr lease) on the Michelin's and since my wife drives the car and doesn't drive aggressively the tires look brand spanking new, lol! If I had to replace them though I'd look at getting those Pirelli's you listed since they are cheaper than the Michelin's; but they cost $50 more per tire when you jump up from 18" to 19" wheel, lol!
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      Quote Originally Posted by PureDrive07 View Post
      My parents hated the stock Pirelli Scorpion tires they had on their two XC60's they owned (2010 XC60RD and 2014 XC60 T6awd) with 20" wheels. They ended up putting Continental ExtremeContact DWS06 tires on the 2014 and it transformed how that car drove in both rain and snow; better confidence and road feel!
      "Plus" - completely different tire, as you know with the Cinturato's.
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      http://www.ebay.com/itm/VOLVO-18-Whe...9Xds8i&vxp=mtr

      You probably can't use the tires as the rolling diameter for a xc90 is larger than that of a xc60
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      Quote Originally Posted by bhom920 View Post
      http://www.ebay.com/itm/VOLVO-18-Whe...9Xds8i&vxp=mtr

      You probably can't use the tires as the rolling diameter for a xc90 is larger than that of a xc60
      It will be fine, but the hub bore of the P2 XC90 is different than the XC60 and will require concentric spacer rings to center the wheel correctly.

      I'm currently using my old P2 XC90 wheels on my XC60. Needed to get rings, and even though my tires were double oversize for the XC90 (255/55/18) they fit even better on my XC60. They used to rub lightly on my XC90.

      Tires are Continental CrossContact LX20 EcoPlus in 255/55/R18. Highly recommend - they give me superb control in the wet, snow (in colorado) and are very quiet in all conditions. They also appear to last forever, I have 40k miles on this set and they still look brand new. I should be able to hit 80k miles on this set of tires with no problem.

      I also had to get and install TPMS sensors, though on my 2010 they are auto-programming so no additional work was required beyond just getting the sensors installed. The car will automatically pair to whatever wheels are on the car and within a few miles of driving the light will turn off.



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      Quote Originally Posted by PureDrive07 View Post
      I'm surprised you didn't car much for the Michelin Latitudes that were on your XC60. We have the same tire on our 2016 XC60 but for 19" wheel and they performed flawlessly in the snow last winter; though these Latitudes are V-rated and I believe the 18" wheels get H-rated tires. For us I'm not worried about the tire wear on them, it'll be back in the dealers possession long before they need replacing when we bring it back from its lease. Currently we only have 12,000 miles (1yr 6mo into the 3yr lease) on the Michelin's and since my wife drives the car and doesn't drive aggressively the tires look brand spanking new, lol! If I had to replace them though I'd look at getting those Pirelli's you listed since they are cheaper than the Michelin's; but they cost $50 more per tire when you jump up from 18" to 19" wheel, lol!
      I didn't like how the OEM Michelins felt in the rain; seemed they broke a little too easily for our main baby hauler. I actually left the XC parked when we had any snowfall last year. I really like the Cinturato Plus's on the V60, so after some research showed the Scorpion Plus's were similarly well rated in rain and snow, I pulled the trigger with only one year on the Michelins. My logic on the tread wear rating is not so much about getting 70K miles out of one set of tires (as if), but how many miles will I have decent tread depth for rain and snow, and less road noise. My wife uses the XC for sales trips so the smoother more efficient (eco) running is a bonus.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Bmo Pete View Post
      I didn't like how the OEM Michelins felt in the rain; seemed they broke a little too easily for our main baby hauler. I actually left the XC parked when we had any snowfall last year. I really like the Cinturato Plus's on the V60, so after some research showed the Scorpion Plus's were similarly well rated in rain and snow, I pulled the trigger with only one year on the Michelins. My logic on the tread wear rating is not so much about getting 70K miles out of one set of tires (as if), but how many miles will I have decent tread depth for rain and snow, and less road noise. My wife uses the XC for sales trips so the smoother more efficient (eco) running is a bonus.
      Another tire I would consider would be the Michelin LTX it rated in just slightly higher than the Pirelli Scorpion Plus on TireRack (ranked 1 and 2 respectively); it either matched it or beat it in a few categories. But like I said I won't be replacing tires on my XC60 since it's a lease and it's probably getting traded in early for an XC90 next summer.
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      Quote Originally Posted by PureDrive07 View Post
      Another tire I would consider would be the Michelin LTX it rated in just slightly higher than the Pirelli Scorpion Plus on TireRack (ranked 1 and 2 respectively); it either matched it or beat it in a few categories. But like I said I won't be replacing tires on my XC60 since it's a lease and it's probably getting traded in early for an XC90 next summer.
      We'll probably be doing the same with our XC60, summer '18.


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      As another data point, I also thought the stock 18" Michelin Latitudes HPs were garbage in winter slop. After almost sliding my XC60 into my living room, I replaced them with Goodyear Assurance TripleTreds just prior to last winter. I very much prefer the Goodyears in bad weather.
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      FWIW, 2010 T6, Scorpions, 235 R18. These tires were on her when purchased. Driven about 4,000 miles. No problems at all. Upstate NY here.


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