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      Quote Originally Posted by cometguy View Post
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      I'm curious what the Polestar 3 SUV-Coupe design would look like with a clean sheet. The Polestar 1 and 2 were based on Volvo concepts so it will be interesting to see what the 3 will end up looking. Excited to see some form of concept/preview of it this year.

      Also, it would be interesting if the Polestar 3 is based on the current SPA or the next generation SPA 2 platform.
      Polestar 3 will be an SUV, they say, and I'm assuming something like the XC60. I think that Polestar is tied by the hip to Volvo, so it won't be doing much that is dramatically different from Volvo for a long time, if ever; indeed, the XC40 BEV and Polestar 2 are said to have much in common.

      In today's NY Times, there is an article on EVs, and there's an incomplete but rather lengthy list of BEVs scheduled to come out in 2020 and 2021 -- in which the XC40 is discussed (saying it will have 408 hp and an estimated range of around 250 miles) but there's no mention of the Polestar 2. Strange, because the Polestar 2 will be out this spring, a half-year before the XC40 is out.
      I agree that Volvo and Polestar have synergies and there will be certain design elements such as the Thor’s hammer daytime lights that will carry over to Polestar.

      I wonder what the exterior and especially the interior would look like. Not saying the the Volvo interiors and exteriors are ugly by any means but I hope this is where the polestar design really shape itself and finding a unique identity from a design perspective. Cause I’m guessing the driving experience will be very fun and exciting.
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      The Polestar 3 should have come out 2020 to compete with the Mach E and Tesla Y. I have little interest in another sedan at this point.
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      saw some new things in vida related to polestar app, I work in volvo service and have not heard about if we will be doing warranty work/service on the polestar models.

      edit: they call it "polestar connect" in csc's. also see another new one for "remote service and management system for electric vehicles"
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      Yes, I agree about Polestar 3 SUV coming out after Polestar 2 sedan, in terms of lacking wisdom. Ford is doing it correctly with the Mach-E, and Jaguar did it correctly with the I-Pace. However, the Volvo XC40 Recharge will be out later this year, and I just read a news story that the XC90 BEV is the next Volvo in line for all-electric treatment -- and we will presumably hear a lot about that in the coming months. Volvo could make the Polestar line-up moot.

      https://www.electrive.com/2020/01/14...90-in-the-usa/

      Which begs the question: why spin off Polestar from Volvo? Why not just keep Polestar as the electric arm of Volvo, and call it the XC40 Polestar and the XC90 Polestar (etc.) as the Volvo BEVs? I do understand that both Volvo and Polestar will be separate entities for the USA federal tax credit, so that Volvo will get to sell 200k units and Polestar and additional 200k units -- so 400k units that'll be eligible. Is that why they did it? I'm surprised that other companies like GM (which has just lost its credit by going past 200k EVs) haven't done the same thing -- spinning off a separate EV division to get another 200k credits, to get more sales.
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      Well at least 2021 will be the year of electric choices all over the place.
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      Quote Originally Posted by cometguy View Post
      Yes, I agree about Polestar 3 SUV coming out after Polestar 2 sedan, in terms of lacking wisdom. Ford is doing it correctly with the Mach-E, and Jaguar did it correctly with the I-Pace. However, the Volvo XC40 Recharge will be out later this year, and I just read a news story that the XC90 BEV is the next Volvo in line for all-electric treatment -- and we will presumably hear a lot about that in the coming months. Volvo could make the Polestar line-up moot.

      https://www.electrive.com/2020/01/14...90-in-the-usa/

      Which begs the question: why spin off Polestar from Volvo? Why not just keep Polestar as the electric arm of Volvo, and call it the XC40 Polestar and the XC90 Polestar (etc.) as the Volvo BEVs? I do understand that both Volvo and Polestar will be separate entities for the USA federal tax credit, so that Volvo will get to sell 200k units and Polestar and additional 200k units -- so 400k units that'll be eligible. Is that why they did it? I'm surprised that other companies like GM (which has just lost its credit by going past 200k EVs) haven't done the same thing -- spinning off a separate EV division to get another 200k credits, to get more sales.
      I look at the spinoff like it’s trying to define itself as a unique, innovative company. As a brand Volvo, Ford, BMW will always be the old guard. If you want to be viewed as a Tesla, Rivian, or Fisker you need your own identity.

      It might also empower them to some extent to take risks and do designs that aren’t as conservative as Volvo. The Polestar 2 still has its roots there but you can see that what they are doing with the interior is a step or two more bold than what Volvo is doing.

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      One of the best videos yet regarding the ins and outs of the Polestar 2, along with a good look at the new Google infotainment screen and options therein:

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChHMtjwvjjI

      (in Dutch but with English sub-titles)

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      Looks great. Interior looks very nice and the center console seems very responsive and animations are smooth.

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      Not very much excitement over this car so far. We'll see.
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      Not very much excitement over this car so far. We'll see.
      They’ve done such a bad job building momentum around the brand lately.
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      Interesting article on the Polestar 1:

      the Swedespeed software is not letting me post the URL, saying
      "Your post contains inappropriate content. Please remove the link and submit again." why?!?! the point is to display the link!!

      well, at cnet.com under roadshow reviews, there's an article titled (URL) 2020-polestar-1-review ... check it out
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      New Polestar showroom preparing to open in Gothenburg: https://www.gp.se/ekonomi/mitt-under...nyn-1.26295943
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      I saw a generic article about companies getting back to work in China yesterday and the caption photo was a worker building a Polestar 2.

      I also got an email from Polestar saying that production reservations will be assigned builds imminently and they’ll be reaching out to all reservation holders to finalize options soon.

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      Again, the Mach-E forum has way more discussion on the Polestar 2 than anything here at Swedespeed:

      https://www.macheforum.com/site/thre...announced.703/

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      Anyone know how this particular audio system fits in between the stock volvo harman and the B&W for instance? Is it really any better than the current volvo harman? I'm spoiled by the B&W system, which is a huge difference from the stock audio.
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      This is an interesting read. Not a ton of new info but some extra bits like crash test photos and airbag placements.


      https://www.google.com/amp/s/driving...ther-level/amp
      Last edited by shadowsor; 04-27-2020 at 04:19 PM.

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      Just got this:

      It’s almost time for dreams to become reality.

      In the coming weeks, we will reach out with instructions on how to finalize your Polestar 2 order and secure your prioritized production slot.

      When confirming your order, you will need to select the Polestar Space nearest you and confirm your preferred payment method. There will be Polestar Spaces in Los Angeles, New York City, and the Bay Area this year, with more locations coming in 2021. We will offer lease, financing, and cash payment options.

      With a starting price of $59,900, your Polestar 2 may come with additional incentives and rebates depending on where you live.* Deliveries will begin this September.

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      Got the following earlier this month:




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      We hope that you and your family are staying safe during these difficult times.

      We wanted to share with you the exciting news that the MSRP for the Polestar 2 has been set at $69,900* CAD in Canada. Based on current rates, Polestar will be targeting a lease price of $899** CAD/month, and financing as low at 0.9% APR.

      We are also excited to announce that in late 2020, we will be opening Polestar Spaces in Toronto, Montreal, and Vancouver, where you can experience the Polestar 1, the Polestar 2, and sign-up for test drives. Our Spaces will also offer a more convenient way of getting your Polestar 2 serviced through a pick-up and delivery servicing program. This program will be free for customers that live within a 250km radius of the nearest Polestar Authorized Service Point. For customers that live beyond the 250km range, the nearest Polestar Authorized Service Point will work with you to provide the most convenient solution to get your Polestar 2 serviced.

      We’re dreaming of seeing you again. But until then, stay in. Dream a little. We’ll be here on the other side, all charged up and ready to go.

      As always, feel free to contact Polestar customer care if you have any questions at 1.800.806.2507.


      *Price is for illustrative purposes only and is not an extension of credit or a commitment to offer financing at the terms entered. Terms offered regularly change and may not be available at the time of financing or leasing your Polestar 2 vehicle. Estimated payment excludes taxes, title, other fees and dealer fees and will vary based on the final negotiated price and terms agreed upon by you and your Polestar dealer. Lease and finance rates are based on creditworthiness and not all customers will qualify for the lowest rates.

      **Based on 3,9% lease rate with $3,250 down payment.

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      Then I got “It’s time to confirm your order...” yesterday. So, I had a look and it is at the CAD $69,900 base price, plus $6000 for Performance package (Olins, Brembos, yellow callipers & seatbelts, all of which I thought was going to be standard on the launch edition) plus $1200 for any colour but Void (black) plus $1900 for delivery, which is a grand total of $79000 plus our 13% HST for the configuration I had put the $1500 deposit on.

      Several big questions before I even think of doing it, including September delivery, trade ins, whether I can purchase through a company (better tax treatment here), etc. Asked a few via email but think I’ll wait until they open the Toronto showroom to finalize any bookings.


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      US orders are being confirmed as well:

      It’s time to confirm your Polestar 2 order and secure your prioritized production slot.

      While reserving your Polestar 2, you will need to select the Polestar Space nearest you and confirm your preferred payment method. There will be Polestar Spaces opening in Los Angeles, New York City, and two in the Bay Area this year, with additional Spaces planned to open throughout 2021. Even if you are not near a launch city, please select the closest Space and we will work with you to determine the most convenient delivery option.

      During the order confirmation process, you will be asked to create and confirm your Polestar ID. This account will become your ID used for all things Polestar moving forward, including tracking your order, completing financing steps closer to delivery, and interacting with your Polestar 2 via the Polestar App.

      We can only guarantee a production slot and delivery timing once we receive confirmation of your order, so we recommend completing your order as soon as you are able. And remember, your deposit remains fully refundable even after you have confirmed your order.
      It’s interesting there is no talk of price in the letter, but I will see what happens when I go through the confirmation.

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      I posted this to the Polestar 2 Facebook group, but I’m reposting here in case it is helpful:

      US orders are being confirmed as well:

      I’m editing this to talk a bit about the confirmation.

      First you choose a pickup location. Current options are San Jose CA, Marin CA, Los Angeles CA, or New York.

      Next it takes you to the configurator. You choose color, interior, packages “pilot”, “plus”, and “performance”.

      Choose wheels.

      Next is add-ons. Options are roof rack, floor mats, tow bar.

      For financing, there are a variety of finance terms from 24 months to 75 months. Lease options from 24 to 48 months.

      Just a few points of reference - a fully loaded car on 48 mo lease, 10k miles, $2500 down is $828/mo. 39 mo, 10k, $1000 down is $869/mo. - these numbers are before tax credits as my selected option went down on the next page.

      Estimated delivery says “August 2020”. It also says I can log in and edit my add ons at any time.

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      Quote Originally Posted by shadowsor View Post
      US orders are being confirmed as well:



      It’s interesting there is no talk of price in the letter, but I will see what happens when I go through the confirmation.
      I think they said USD $59,900 but interested to know whether that includes the Performance package (which puts it pretty close to the CAD loaded price with exchange) or not.

      It looks like a good car but, in the post-COVID world, I’m now hesitating. Maybe it would be better to put a few paymentless years on our so-far-favourite Volvo (‘16 V60RD 3.0) while they refine the launch versions and battery technology improves. Tesla is rumoured to be announcing ‘million mile’ (longevity) batteries later this year.


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      Quote Originally Posted by KCCM View Post
      I think they said USD $59,900 but interested to know whether that includes the Performance package (which puts it pretty close to the CAD loaded price with exchange) or not.

      It looks like a good car but, in the post-COVID world, I’m now hesitating. Maybe it would be better to put a few paymentless years on our so-far-favourite Volvo (‘16 V60RD 3.0) while they refine the launch versions and battery technology improves. Tesla is rumoured to be announcing ‘million mile’ (longevity) batteries later this year.


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      See my post above, shows some financing options. I believe you are correct that the base price was $59,900 - though I think that includes some “forced” packages (pilot and plus) for the first release.

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      I am trying to figure out if the tow hitch accepts bike rack inserts. It looks like the tow ball is fixed/retracted but that really limits the usefulness. Anyone know? I am locked in for an August delivery supposedly . . . Also interesting how they are handling the Spaces. All service has to be done there. I hope I don’t have issues given I am 200 miles from NY.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Guyownscar View Post
      I am trying to figure out if the tow hitch accepts bike rack inserts. It looks like the tow ball is fixed/retracted but that really limits the usefulness. Anyone know? I am locked in for an August delivery supposedly . . . Also interesting how they are handling the Spaces. All service has to be done there. I hope I don’t have issues given I am 200 miles from NY.
      Where did you see that all service has to be done at the spaces? I had read an interview saying that 100 Volvo dealers had been identified and are being trained to service.

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      Quote Originally Posted by shadowsor View Post
      Where did you see that all service has to be done at the spaces? I had read an interview saying that 100 Volvo dealers had been identified and are being trained to service.
      Yea, that is what I thought too, but I called the Polestar customer service and was told repeatedly that is not the case. Any servicing would need to be done in a Space. I also brought up that I had read that Volvo dealers could be certified to handle service, but was told that is not currently the case. I would love to be wrong. The gentleman said that servicing under warranty would be free regardless of distance and other servicing would be free up to 150 miles from a Space. A Space is supposed to open closer to me (Boston) in 2021, so hopefully it is a non-issue, but troubling nonetheless.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Guyownscar View Post
      Yea, that is what I thought too, but I called the Polestar customer service and was told repeatedly that is not the case. Any servicing would need to be done in a Space. I also brought up that I had read that Volvo dealers could be certified to handle service, but was told that is not currently the case. I would love to be wrong. The gentleman said that servicing under warranty would be free regardless of distance and other servicing would be free up to 150 miles from a Space. A Space is supposed to open closer to me (Boston) in 2021, so hopefully it is a non-issue, but troubling nonetheless.
      Yes, I’m sure there will be some kinks in early adoption. I’m encouraged by the fact that the P2 was a model pretty much designed and finished by Volvo so they shouldn’t have the reliability issues/growing pains of a company completely naive to car manufacturing or electric power trains.

      Still, I’m leasing because the resale is completely unknown and things are changing so quickly in the space.

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      Being all-electric, it should have significantly less service required than any internal-combustion powered vehicles, including hybrids. No oil changes, spark plugs, emissions systems, exhaust, etc. So still brakes/suspension, HVAC, maybe a cooling system ...


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      Quote Originally Posted by shadowsor View Post
      Yes, I’m sure there will be some kinks in early adoption. I’m encouraged by the fact that the P2 was a model pretty much designed and finished by Volvo so they shouldn’t have the reliability issues/growing pains of a company completely naive to car manufacturing or electric power trains.

      Still, I’m leasing because the resale is completely unknown and things are changing so quickly in the space.
      I am leasing too for the same reason. I certainly expect this car to require less service, but as the owner of a 2016 XC90 T8 that was a lemon, I am a tad worried about first year kinks as well.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Guyownscar View Post
      Yea, that is what I thought too, but I called the Polestar customer service and was told repeatedly that is not the case. Any servicing would need to be done in a Space. I also brought up that I had read that Volvo dealers could be certified to handle service, but was told that is not currently the case. I would love to be wrong. The gentleman said that servicing under warranty would be free regardless of distance and other servicing would be free up to 150 miles from a Space. A Space is supposed to open closer to me (Boston) in 2021, so hopefully it is a non-issue, but troubling nonetheless.
      I think maybe I figured out the discrepancy. I see now that the current announced Polestar spaces all seem to be existing Volvo dealerships, at least the California ones are. Volvo Marin, the Polestar space in San Jose that I chose dropped a pin on a map at Stevens Creek where the existing Volvo dealership is.

      So it seems they are in fact working with Volvo dealerships, at least initially, and it is plausible they will expand to others over the next year or two. Sort of like how Audi and Porsche dealerships are often colocated.

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