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    \r\n Unless you drive a Diesel (or work on them) you really don\'t have any idea what carbon suspended in the oil is all about.
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    \r\nOTOH, if you don\'t suspend it and drain it out with the old oil, where do you think it\'s going to end up?\r\n
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    \r\n Quote Originally Posted by John C\r\n View Post\r\n
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    Unless you drive a Diesel (or work on them) you really don\'t have any idea what carbon suspended in the oil is all about.
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    \r\nOTOH, if you don\'t suspend it and drain it out with the old oil, where do you think it\'s going to end up?
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    \nSo true. And if you have not had to change 12 quarts of oil from a diesel work truck, you\'re not living, lol.
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    \r\nSince this thread started about conventional oil, this is what\'s nice about synthetics in general. Synthetics are more resistant when it comes to leaving carbon compared to conventional oil (call it thermal breakdown, evaporation, oxidation, or whatever). So, as the detergents clean with each oil interval, there is also less of a chance for carbon from synthetic oil being deposited back. I have opened up at least a dozen engines who have used synthetics for most, if not all their lives, and they all were very clean. You could see some carbon deposits in corners where the flow of oil is low, but otherwise, varnish and carbon was almost nonexistent. The existing levels of detergent in regular synthetics (non-high mileage) do a very good job of cleaning with regular use over time.
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    \r\nIf switching to synthetic from conventional, or using synthetic in an engine with unknown oil history, it might be better to use regular synthetic, but at a shorter change interval for a few oil changes. Like you are saying, suspend and drain. I believe Orange was touching on that subject in this thread.\r\n
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    \r\n Quote Originally Posted by ChitownV\r\n View Post\r\n
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    The existing levels of detergent in regular synthetics (non-high mileage) do a very good job of cleaning with regular use over time.
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    \r\nBack in the \'70s a guy brought me an Mercedes 250 he had owned for about 50,000 miles. He wanted an oil change. I drained the oil, installed a new filter, and filled it with 10w-30 (IIRC) Castrol. About 3000 miles later he called me and told me the car quit on him on the highway. When I got it back the engine was seized. The oil filter was full of black chunks of carbon and had gone into bypass, allowing all that crud into the oil galleries. After a few questions I discovered that in his 50,000 miles of ownership this had been his first oil change... (Guess I should have used non-detergent oil!)\r\n
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    \r\nAfter a few questions I discovered that in his 50,000 miles of ownership this had been his first oil change... (Guess I should have used non-detergent oil!)
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    \r\n I\'ve come to the realization that 110K is not high mileage on a 2.5T as these engines are we built and last over 300K. Plus the path for the lifters is very small and a thicker oil may not effectively he through... and I will follow the mfr recommendations of a 30 weight oil and not, say 0W-40 because some here claim the thicker oil helps the older engines.
    \nMaybe so but that will be for engines much older than mine.
    \nAnd to chitownv, yes I\'ve owned the car from the start and hadn\'t realized there is no low oil indicator....never was an issue because never had used an oil like the M1 that\'d be consumed so fast.\r\n
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    \r\n Quote Originally Posted by diclemeg\r\n View Post\r\n
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    I\'ve come to the realization that 110K is not high mileage on a 2.5T as these engines are we built and last over 300K. Plus the path for the lifters is very small and a thicker oil may not effectively he through... and I will follow the mfr recommendations of a 30 weight oil and not, say 0W-40 because some here claim the thicker oil helps the older engines.
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    \r\nAnd to chitownv, yes I\'ve owned the car from the start and hadn\'t realized there is no low oil indicator....never was an issue because never had used an oil like the M1 that\'d be consumed so fast.
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    \nSounds good. Whatever works as the maintenance history and wear is different for each. Just FYI, I recommended the Castrol not Mobil 1 for the 2.5t, but you know your engine better than anyone else on the internet.
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    \r\nJust a question again, what oil seals were replaced that you mentioned? It sounded like you had an oil loss issue prior because you mentioned cleaning the oil pan.\r\n
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    \r\nFirst, you should be proud of your engine. Many many 2.5t owners, whether they are XC90 or S60 owners, would desire their engine to be able to run 6,000 miles before the oil pressure light came on due to low oil. Many will have that light come on as early as 3,000 miles regardless of engine oil weight or type. No commonality in the type of oil used, maintenance, or other factors....just that they all have the 2.5t. Many decide to shorten their oil change interval from the 7,500 stated in the manual regardless of engine type.
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    • 2. Following the oil seal change, you did two 2,500 oil changes. Quick oil change intervals are not usually needed after doing oil seals, so naturally a question on this. Also, the oil type/brand/weight was not mentioned.
    • 3. On the third oil change, using Mobil 1 0W-40, you noticed the oil pressure light at 6,000 miles. The oil was low (but mainly dropped in the last 500 miles), black, but the oil filter seemed normal. Along with the oil pressure light going out after the engine sat for a little while, the assumption was made the oil pick-up screen was clogged. No scope was used and the assumption that the Synthetic Mobil 1 0W-40 was to blame.
    • 4. After you changed the oil to non-M1 0W-40 (but did mention Castrol GTX High Mileage blend 5W-30 because that\'s what Walmart had) and it is at the correct oil level, the oil pressure light does not show. Unknown mileage on this oil, but you said you will change it now at the 4,000-mile mark. Natural question here if you think your 2.5t burns oil because now you want to use a shorter oil change interval.
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    Was simply giving a data point, and said so in the initial post, as it seemed relevant to the topic. Now knowing that there is no low oil indicator on the 2.5T, the red triangle might have simply been due to the low level, although I thought I added enough yet the red triangle came back... not until I swapped out the oil and filter, did it go away, so I assumed it the culprit was dirty oil. This was my first use of 40 weight oil and I will say it burned off far quicker than using the M1 5w-30 I had been using for 50000 miles.
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      Quote Originally Posted by ChitownV View Post

      So, are you looking for help or just wanted to share your story and experience?
      Was simply giving a data point, and said so in the initial post, as it seemed relevant to the topic. Now knowing that there is no low oil indicator on the 2.5T, the red triangle might have simply been due to the low level, although I thought I added enough yet the red triangle came back... not until I swapped out the oil and filter, did it go away, so I assumed it the culprit was dirty oil. This was my first use of 40 weight oil and I will say it burned off far quicker than using the M1 5w-30 I had been using for 50000 miles.