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      Next generation S40/V40

      Has anyone heard anything about when they're going to be released?

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      At the moment, it seems that people at Volvo are in deep hibernation:

      In December 2014, Volvo said that by the beginning of 2018 (!), the new XC90 would be the oldest car it sells: https://www.digitaltrends.com/cars/b...-all-new-xc90/
      In February 2015, Hakan Samuelsson said that in February 2019, the whole Volvo line-up will be replaced: https://www.topgear.com/car-news/rev...019-masterplan
      In January 2017, Hakan Samuelsson said that within two years (i.e. by January 2019), all three series (40/60/90) will be completed: https://www.caradvice.com.au/512355/...hin-two-years/

      The reality looks different: There are no prototypes around of ANY new Volvos (and Polestars and Lynk&Cos either). As it takes at least six months to test a new car on the roads, any possible new model is far, far away. Plus, the XC90 has already been around for such a long time that a mid-cycle refresh would be due. Nothing in sight about that, either. Also, there are no news about Volvo's electrification strategy. In this regard, we have to wait for the launch of Polestar 1 first (any time in 2019) because the all-electric XC40 will be launched afterwards: https://www.express.co.uk/life-style...-Jaguar-I-Pace

      One thing has been announced at least, and that is the successor of the XC90 which will ride on the SPA2 platform, feature level 4 autonomous driving and - if they can hold to the schedule - will be launched in 2021: https://www.automobilemag.com/news/s...el-4-autonomy/
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      for the tracking.

      From 2014 Fall when XC90 was announced, it has been 4 exciting waiting years, or busy years for Volvo. Maybe their R&D team is taking a break now to give the factory more time on production and quality control.

      But the CMA team, eg. CEVT, should still be busy on S/V40. Maybe the ICE version is being tested secretly now just no leaked pics. The EV version is really the next big thing for them, not for me though.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Mjoelnir View Post
      At the moment, it seems that people at Volvo are in deep hibernation:

      In December 2014, Volvo said that by the beginning of 2018 (!), the new XC90 would be the oldest car it sells: https://www.digitaltrends.com/cars/b...-all-new-xc90/
      In February 2015, Hakan Samuelsson said that in February 2019, the whole Volvo line-up will be replaced: https://www.topgear.com/car-news/rev...019-masterplan
      In January 2017, Hakan Samuelsson said that within two years (i.e. by January 2019), all three series (40/60/90) will be completed: https://www.caradvice.com.au/512355/...hin-two-years/
      from the second article you quoted Samuelsson from:
      "We will soon present to you also new cars in the 60 and 40 series,” Samuelsson said at the event. “And two years from now, we will have completed the biggest rollout of new products in the company’s history – making the award-winning XC90 the oldest car in the line-up.”

      If you read carefully, he doesn't say that full 40 cluster will be out, but that new cars in both 60/40 will be presented. Also, in 2014, there was no more sub-compact cars (C30/S40/V50 were already out). So at this time, the XC90 is indeed the oldest vehicle in the line-up...

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      I find myself wondering if they'll even bother with a V or S version, considering that cars and especially wagons aren't selling as well as SUVs. I believe the same thing is happening in Europe, but I'm not positive about that. However, there's been talk of a Polestar version of the 40.2 concept vehicle. https://cleantechnica.com/2018/07/18...50-mile-range/

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      Quote Originally Posted by Dalsim007 View Post
      Also, in 2014, there was no more sub-compact cars (C30/S40/V50 were already out). So at this time, the XC90 is indeed the oldest vehicle in the line-up...
      Maybe in the US and Canada, yes. But mind you, there are other continents on this planet, and North America just doesn't get the full line-up. The sub-compact V40 was presented in 2012, still existed in 2014 and even today is still produced and sold: https://www.volvocars.com/se/bilar/modeller/v40
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      Yes, they will bother with a V40: http://beautomotive.be/volvo-car-gen...v40-successor/

      “The new model will replace the V40 in volume. However, this car will not necessarily be in the same segment,” Håkan Samuelsson indicated at the press conference. “It will be an attractive and forward-looking model for a growing and global market segment.”
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      The next replacement model in Volvo’s line-up is the V40 hatchback, which should arrive next year. Kerssemakers confirmed the next V40, based on the brand’s Compact Modular Architecture – the same as the XC40 – would be electrified and be a “strong evolution” stylistically on the current model. However he hinted it wouldn’t be dramatically different. “The old XC90 to the new XC90 was a big difference because it was much larger, while the XC40 we could be a lot more extreme because it was the new kid on the block. The V40 is well established.” https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/i...g-next-new-car

      And if this is anything to go by, there won't be an S40. Click the Cars link. No S40 to be seen. https://www.volvocars.com/intl

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      Quote Originally Posted by baydreamer View Post
      And if this is anything to go by, there won't be an S40. Click the Cars link. No S40 to be seen. https://www.volvocars.com/intl
      Just because there is no S40 currently, there won't be an S40? I'm pretty sure that Hakan Samuelsson said once that Volvo has a 3x3 strategy, which means having an S, a V and an XC model in each of the 40, 60 and 90 series.
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      Quote Originally Posted by baydreamer View Post
      Its simply too late, should have replaced the V40 this year

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      Quote Originally Posted by volvocu View Post
      Its simply too late, should have replaced the V40 this year
      Maybe there will be a lower version for S40 segment this year, and higher version two years later for V40?

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      A Dutch magazine, with good contacts to Volvo, wrote this week:

      At the end of May, the very last Volvo V40 will be produced at the Belgian Volvo factory. But even though Volvo managed to sell more than 600,000 units in seven years, no successor is foreseen.
      Surprising. Within the Volvo dealer organization, Volvo's decision was met with astonishment
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      Production figures:
      2018: 77.587
      2017: 95.370
      2016: 101.380
      2015: 106.631
      2014: 110.864
      2013: 99.911
      2012: 22.446

      So, in 2018 the V40 was responsible for 12% of total Volvo sales. I’m wondering how Volvo will fill this volume gap after May.
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      https://carbuzz.com/news/big-changes...next-volvo-v40

      The V40 is the last model in Volvo’s range not to be underpinned by either the new CMA or SPA platforms; the Ford Global C platform which it uses does not allow for electrification, so it has to go. Kerssemakers said that a replacement model is currently being designed and should be ready within the next two years.

      While he did not call this replacement design a crossover, he did say that it will sit higher than the current car and that they intend to add a new body style to the 40 series range in the next few years. That sounds to us like a mash-up between the current V40 Cross Country and the XC40 crossover, something in the vein of the BMW X2. This should appeal to those who do not want or need the additional ground-clearance of a crossover, although hatchback fans will have to look elsewhere.
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      I am OK to wait. But no new S40 and we all should look at P*2 instead?

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      Quote Originally Posted by FusionRedXC60 View Post
      I am OK to wait. But no new S40 and we all should look at P*2 instead?

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      ...or the Lynk & Co. 03, at a more competitive price?

      The P*2 will be a Tesla 3 fighter and at a slightly higher price point than the S40 would be, but still too close to avoid competing against one another in the Premium Sub-compact segment. Besides, I think Polestar hijacked the Concept 40.2 for their P*2, which was to be the next S40.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Bmo Pete View Post
      ...or the Lynk & Co. 03, at a more competitive price?

      The P*2 will be a Tesla 3 fighter and at a slightly higher price point than the S40 would be, but still too close to avoid competing against one another in the Premium Sub-compact segment. Besides, I think Polestar hijacked the Concept 40.2 for their P*2, which was to be the next S40.

      This car won't land on America though. Even the planned LYNKCO01 PHEV probably is not coming for sure either.
      It is delayed even in Europe.
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      Quote Originally Posted by RootDKJ View Post
      https://carbuzz.com/news/big-changes...next-volvo-v40

      The V40 is the last model in Volvo’s range not to be underpinned by either the new CMA or SPA platforms; the Ford Global C platform which it uses does not allow for electrification, so it has to go. Kerssemakers said that a replacement model is currently being designed and should be ready within the next two years.

      While he did not call this replacement design a crossover, he did say that it will sit higher than the current car and that they intend to add a new body style to the 40 series range in the next few years. That sounds to us like a mash-up between the current V40 Cross Country and the XC40 crossover, something in the vein of the BMW X2. This should appeal to those who do not want or need the additional ground-clearance of a crossover, although hatchback fans will have to look elsewhere.
      Interesting news, specifically in that there won’t be a replacement for another two years! It seems that the V40 was supposed to be replaced with a hatchback until very recently when at the final stages they decided to forego for a higher riding car...

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      With the trade war between USA and China I believe Volvo may have problems with capacity in their European factories. They have had to move production of XC60 from China back to Sweden. That added around 50.000 additional XC60 to be built in the Torslanda factory and led Volvo to move production of the new V60 to Belgium (also around 50.000 units per year).

      At the same time the XC40 has been a big success and next year Volvo plan to produce around 150.000 units in Belgium. On top of that around 20.000 units of the old V40 will be built during the first months of 2019. All in all around 220.000 cars, which is close to the production limit in the Gent factory. Volvo have also annonced that they will not start building any Lynk&Co cars this year.

      This leads me to believe Volvo don’t have enough factory capacity to launch the new V40.
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      Finally some news about the V40. https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/n...sion-next-xc90
      "Volvo boss Håkan Samuelsson also revealed that an expansion of the smaller 40-series of models was also due to take place beyond the sole XC40 of today.

      Whether that will be a more direct replacement for the recently discontinued V40 family hatchback isn't yet known, but Samuelsson said the firm “realised the need for another small, premium car” with a particular focus on Europe, and that there are “plans to do more models of the family”.

      The 40-series will initially expand with the electric XC40 Recharge later this year, and at least one new bodystyle will follow it, separate from anything badged XC40.
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      Hope it comes to North America.

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      Quote Originally Posted by baydreamer View Post
      Finally some news about the V40. https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/n...sion-next-xc90
      "Volvo boss Håkan Samuelsson also revealed that an expansion of the smaller 40-series of models was also due to take place beyond the sole XC40 of today.

      Whether that will be a more direct replacement for the recently discontinued V40 family hatchback isn't yet known, but Samuelsson said the firm “realised the need for another small, premium car” with a particular focus on Europe, and that there are “plans to do more models of the family”.

      The 40-series will initially expand with the electric XC40 Recharge later this year, and at least one new bodystyle will follow it, separate from anything badged XC40.
      "

      Hope it comes to North America.
      This is repeated info. Just matter of time when they will crank out the body shape and leak some design draft pic...
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      Quote Originally Posted by FusionRedXC60 View Post
      This is repeated info. Just matter of time when they will crank out the body shape and leak some design draft pic...
      It was news to me that there are “plans to do more models of the family”. I'd only heard of a new V40. Also, it was so long ago that they were talking about it, I'm just glad to read confirmation. The only new models that I read that they're considering in the more recent past are an XC30 and XC100. I was starting to wonder if their plans changed.

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