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      Zoinks' 850R - An Underdog Story

      Iíve been wanting to get into a turbo Volvo for years now. Initially it was a turbo manual redblock, but since I started driving the V70 I have been constantly day dreaming about a t5m. My desires have varied with time and experiences, but throughout the entire journey to this point Iíve known for sure that whatever turbo Volvo I get my hands on, it has to be red. So low and behold the newest addition to my stable, a little red $100 850r sedan that has been down on its luck lately. I have potentially big plans for this car, kinda bummed itís not an estate, but Iím very excited about finally getting a chance to save/rebuild a cheap rare Volvo!

      The R was posted on the unaffiliated thread over in the classified section and when I saw it I knew I had to investigate. It has timing belt issues, Iím assuming a tensioner or the water pump failed and the belt jumped, but the belt isnít broken because the owner has cranked it over to try to start it *cringe*. I have decent hopes that the engine is salvageable so I ordered a timing belt kit to replace everything to hopefully make it run again, if this route works Iíll be compression testing it to verify engine health. If the current engine isnít salvageable Iíll be performing a full drivetrain swap consisting of a B5234t3 out of a 98 s70 t5 and an internal slave m56 out of a 2001 s60 na, along with a host of scope creep parts thrown at it to make a nice little autocross & track day car. Living is Milwaukee gives me the luxury of plenty of race tracks around that make autocross and track days incredibly affordable.

      Iíll be picking it up on 6/15/19 morning and performing the timing belt job after I get it home, the results of that job will determine how much money I sink into this target of opportunity! I'll be pretty closely mirroring Sven's R sedan because of the phenomenal job he has done on it so far, but I have a couple of ideas to set mine apart The front bumper looks like it could use a little bit of repair, along with the cracked front seats but the interior is in really good shape, even has heated rear seats!







      1998 V70R Mystic Silver/Graphite
      1996 RN Swapped 854R Bright Red/Graphite

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      Congrats! Looks like a nice canvas to build on. Am I reading this right that you got it for $100??!!!!!?? Like as in one-hundred?!
      1995 850 T-5R Estate. AW50-42LE. Cream Yellow/Graphite. 296k.
      1997 850R Estate. RN/M66D. Bright Red/Graphite. 270k.
      1999 V70 T5. Nautic Blue/Graphite. M56. 173k.
      2007 S60 T5. M66W. Black Sapphire/Arena. 136k.

      Past: |1997 855R. Bright Red/Light Beige. AW50-42LE. Totaled by wayward construction equipment. || 1996 854R. Black Stone/Graphite. AW50-42LE. Parts car || 1995 854 TURBO. Polar White/Tan. AW50-42LE. Parts car. |
      Dad: 1997 V70 T5 SE. AW50-42LE. Frost Green/Oak. 212k.Mom: 2004 V70 NA. AW55-50SN Ruby Red/Tan 266k. <--- FOR SALE!!

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      Check base timing. If itís correct, check compression. If itís not, motor swap it thereís no reason to fix that power plant.
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      1999 V70 T5 - Pewter/R Graphite & Alcantara - AW42 - 290k - Work Wagon
      1999 V70 T5 - Nautic/R Graphite & Alcantara - M56H - 174k - Rescue
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      Quote Originally Posted by JaredR View Post
      Congrats! Looks like a nice canvas to build on. Am I reading this right that you got it for $100??!!!!!?? Like as in one-hundred?!
      $100 is correct! It was originally listed for $350 and when he found out I'm a college student and want to rebuild it he told me his wife wouldn't let him give it away so $100 would do, and I happily accepted LOL
      1998 V70R Mystic Silver/Graphite
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      Quote Originally Posted by ScottishBrick View Post
      Check base timing. If itís correct, check compression. If itís not, motor swap it thereís no reason to fix that power plant.
      That's my plan. I made an excel file of parts needed, and parts I want to throw on there because I would have already pulled the engine so might as well. There are several local guys who have done an m56 swap before that are willing to help so I'm not terribly nervous for it, but I know I can't plan for everything!
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      Quote Originally Posted by Zoinks View Post
      That's my plan. I made an excel file of parts needed, and parts I want to throw on there because I would have already pulled the engine so might as well. There are several local guys who have done an m56 swap before that are willing to help so I'm not terribly nervous for it, but I know I can't plan for everything!
      If you donít have the m56h yet see if you can snag a m56lk from a 01+ t5 p2. Better ratios. Thereís a nice smf conversion kit for internal slave m56xís thatís cheap from Europe
      2003 V70 T5 - Mystic/Graphite - M56LK - 195k - "O-Three"
      1999 V70 T5 - Pewter/R Graphite & Alcantara - AW42 - 290k - Work Wagon
      1999 V70 T5 - Nautic/R Graphite & Alcantara - M56H - 174k - Rescue
      1999 V70 T5 - Emerald/Graphite - M56H - 119k - Garage Queen
      2000 V70 T5 - Mystic/Graphite - AW42 - 238k - Moms Unicorn
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      Quote Originally Posted by ScottishBrick View Post
      If you donít have the m56h yet see if you can snag a m56lk from a 01+ t5 p2. Better ratios. Thereís a nice smf conversion kit for internal slave m56xís thatís cheap from Europe
      This ^

      Having been driving M56H my entire driving career, i can tell you that the ratios kinda suck. Would be even worse with a turbo. M56LK or M66 is where it's at.
      1995 850 T-5R Estate. AW50-42LE. Cream Yellow/Graphite. 296k.
      1997 850R Estate. RN/M66D. Bright Red/Graphite. 270k.
      1999 V70 T5. Nautic Blue/Graphite. M56. 173k.
      2007 S60 T5. M66W. Black Sapphire/Arena. 136k.

      Past: |1997 855R. Bright Red/Light Beige. AW50-42LE. Totaled by wayward construction equipment. || 1996 854R. Black Stone/Graphite. AW50-42LE. Parts car || 1995 854 TURBO. Polar White/Tan. AW50-42LE. Parts car. |
      Dad: 1997 V70 T5 SE. AW50-42LE. Frost Green/Oak. 212k.Mom: 2004 V70 NA. AW55-50SN Ruby Red/Tan 266k. <--- FOR SALE!!

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      Quote Originally Posted by ScottishBrick View Post
      If you donít have the m56h yet see if you can snag a m56lk from a 01+ t5 p2. Better ratios. Thereís a nice smf conversion kit for internal slave m56xís thatís cheap from Europe
      Quote Originally Posted by JaredR View Post
      This ^

      Having been driving M56H my entire driving career, i can tell you that the ratios kinda suck. Would be even worse with a turbo. M56LK or M66 is where it's at.
      I was quoted $150 for a ~75k mile M56H, there is a 109k mile M56LK local to MN for $400, I'll call tomorrow and see if they'll lower the price but that might be doable. The real questions is what is the SMF conversion for internal slaves that you speak of, you got a PN or a link??
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      Quote Originally Posted by Zoinks View Post
      I was quoted $150 for a ~75k mile M56H, there is a 109k mile M56LK local to MN for $400, I'll call tomorrow and see if they'll lower the price but that might be doable. The real questions is what is the SMF conversion for internal slaves that you speak of, you got a PN or a link??
      $400 is totally worth it! Short 1-2-3 makes your car a second faster to 80.

      Plus crawler low gear in traffic.

      https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/vol...0-valeo-845078

      Search the PN on eBay.co.uk cam save hundreds.

      Also, go get vida. Youíre gonna need it.
      2003 V70 T5 - Mystic/Graphite - M56LK - 195k - "O-Three"
      1999 V70 T5 - Pewter/R Graphite & Alcantara - AW42 - 290k - Work Wagon
      1999 V70 T5 - Nautic/R Graphite & Alcantara - M56H - 174k - Rescue
      1999 V70 T5 - Emerald/Graphite - M56H - 119k - Garage Queen
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      Welcome to the club!!! And for $100 damn!!! You have quite a journey ahead of you
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      Quote Originally Posted by ScottishBrick View Post
      $400 is totally worth it! Short 1-2-3 makes your car a second faster to 80.

      Plus crawler low gear in traffic.

      https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/vol...0-valeo-845078

      Search the PN on eBay.co.uk cam save hundreds.

      Also, go get vida. Youíre gonna need it.
      I have never bought anything on Ebay, let alone UK Ebay. . . Is a $340 kit too sketchy? lol The crawler gear in traffic is the most tempting part, coming from Na it'll take me a long time to notice that 1 second difference to 80.

      I've been eyeing VIDA computers for a while, the parts look up capabilities are sweet, but I've had good luck with just using different parts websites for that. Is there another incentive that I don't know about?
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      Quote Originally Posted by sventastic View Post
      Welcome to the club!!! And for $100 damn!!! You have quite a journey ahead of you
      Realistically it'll either be revived the day I buy it or be slowly worked on over the course of the summer. The Milwaukee to Minneapolis commute to work on it isn't ideal but will make for amazingly fun long weekends. But thank you! For $100 I couldn't say no, especially with a platform I've become so comfortable with and have such good resources for.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Zoinks View Post
      Realistically it'll either be revived the day I buy it or be slowly worked on over the course of the summer. The Milwaukee to Minneapolis commute to work on it isn't ideal but will make for amazingly fun long weekends. But thank you! For $100 I couldn't say no, especially with a platform I've become so comfortable with and have such good resources for.
      Itís a toy you lucked out on for less than scrap value. Donít rush, if youíre gonna build it do it right, once and economical. Which is easy.
      2003 V70 T5 - Mystic/Graphite - M56LK - 195k - "O-Three"
      1999 V70 T5 - Pewter/R Graphite & Alcantara - AW42 - 290k - Work Wagon
      1999 V70 T5 - Nautic/R Graphite & Alcantara - M56H - 174k - Rescue
      1999 V70 T5 - Emerald/Graphite - M56H - 119k - Garage Queen
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      Quote Originally Posted by ScottishBrick View Post
      Itís a toy you lucked out on for less than scrap value. Donít rush, if youíre gonna build it do it right, once and economical. Which is easy.
      ^

      That's what I've done with mine. Although I paid more than scrap value for it, lol. If I was to buy everything to build that car in a day, it would have probably cost me like $30k.
      1995 850 T-5R Estate. AW50-42LE. Cream Yellow/Graphite. 296k.
      1997 850R Estate. RN/M66D. Bright Red/Graphite. 270k.
      1999 V70 T5. Nautic Blue/Graphite. M56. 173k.
      2007 S60 T5. M66W. Black Sapphire/Arena. 136k.

      Past: |1997 855R. Bright Red/Light Beige. AW50-42LE. Totaled by wayward construction equipment. || 1996 854R. Black Stone/Graphite. AW50-42LE. Parts car || 1995 854 TURBO. Polar White/Tan. AW50-42LE. Parts car. |
      Dad: 1997 V70 T5 SE. AW50-42LE. Frost Green/Oak. 212k.Mom: 2004 V70 NA. AW55-50SN Ruby Red/Tan 266k. <--- FOR SALE!!

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      I absolutely believe youre knowledgable, but lots of your comments are very subjective or have a lack of nuance.

      Better ratio's, sucking ratio's, to whom....?!

      Not carved in stone, a matter of preference and depending on the charactaristics of a setup, longer or shorter gear ratio's and different final drive...
      What you like, can be disliked by other 'drivers' and vice versa ;-)

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      Quote Originally Posted by ScottishBrick View Post
      Itís a toy you lucked out on for less than scrap value. Donít rush, if youíre gonna build it do it right, once and economical. Which is easy.
      Quote Originally Posted by JaredR View Post
      ^

      That's what I've done with mine. Although I paid more than scrap value for it, lol. If I was to buy everything to build that car in a day, it would have probably cost me like $30k.
      Ultimately I would really like to go all in and RN swap a 855R, or build & m66 swap a 2000 VR, currently one of those two is my dream car. Did they even build passion red VR's in 2000? I guess that's a question for later lol. But I kind of view this as a warm up to when I'm out of school, and out of student loans, to let loose on that dream car build. If the M56LK works out it'll be a happy addition to the build, but if it doesn't I wont be heartbroken. I'd like to avoid a Miata in my future as much as possible, and I think this, when all is said and done, will handily beat a Miata with the same amount invested.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Vasquez View Post
      I absolutely believe youre knowledgable, but lots of your comments are very subjective or have a lack of nuance.

      Better ratio's, sucking ratio's, to whom....?!

      Not carved in stone, a matter of preference and depending on the charactaristics of a setup, longer or shorter gear ratio's and different final drive...
      What you like, can be disliked by other 'drivers' and vice versa ;-)
      I think that different gear ratios can be argued to be better than others, that's out of my knowledge base, but squeezing every ounce of speed out of a car can easily be pushed there. I also think that the main preference is if the extra cost is worth it or not, and that is not only the age old question (I've been writing too many discussion posts like this for online history class lately haha) but also the one I'll be answering soon. Luckily, from my perspective, I don't think I can make a wrong decision.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Zoinks View Post
      I have never bought anything on Ebay, let alone UK Ebay. . . Is a $340 kit too sketchy? lol The crawler gear in traffic is the most tempting part, coming from Na it'll take me a long time to notice that 1 second difference to 80.

      I've been eyeing VIDA computers for a while, the parts look up capabilities are sweet, but I've had good luck with just using different parts websites for that. Is there another incentive that I don't know about?
      Its also got workshop instructions, wiring diagrams ect.
      2003 V70 T5 - Mystic/Graphite - M56LK - 195k - "O-Three"
      1999 V70 T5 - Pewter/R Graphite & Alcantara - AW42 - 290k - Work Wagon
      1999 V70 T5 - Nautic/R Graphite & Alcantara - M56H - 174k - Rescue
      1999 V70 T5 - Emerald/Graphite - M56H - 119k - Garage Queen
      2000 V70 T5 - Mystic/Graphite - AW42 - 238k - Moms Unicorn
      2000 S70 GLT SE- Mystic/Graphite - AW42 - 212k - Sisters

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      Quote Originally Posted by ScottishBrick View Post
      Its also got workshop instructions, wiring diagrams ect.
      Oh that would be incredibly useful... My sister drives a VIDA scan-able s60, so splitting it with my dad is definitely a possibility. I'll start keeping an eye on the various classified groups I'm apart of for a laptop and DICE Unit.
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      THAT is sick.
      Good for you, man - now you've got a really good list to work on with the extra cash you saved, and can buy some Volans!
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      $100 is correct! It was originally listed for $350 and when he found out I'm a college student and want to rebuild it he told me his wife wouldn't let him give it away so $100 would do, and I happily accepted LOL
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      Quote Originally Posted by ZZZZZZZ View Post
      THAT is sick.
      Good for you, man - now you've got a really good list to work on with the extra cash you saved, and can buy some Volans!
      Thank you! I might try to find a set of Propus wheels for it, been drooling over them for years and they'd look MINT on the sedan. Depending on the scope creep I will try to find some form of ultralight wheel for track use, but that's way down the line. You should see the excel doc I made, it's nothing fancy but I love itemizing my parts lists haha
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      Use to hate excel. I love it now, and need to add all the P2 data in from three to keep track. I guess I better do that soon.
      450 for some Cs near me...
      https://washingtondc.craigslist.org/...908700430.html
      Quote Originally Posted by Zoinks View Post
      Thank you! I might try to find a set of Propus wheels for it, been drooling over them for years and they'd look MINT on the sedan. Depending on the scope creep I will try to find some form of ultralight wheel for track use, but that's way down the line. You should see the excel doc I made, it's nothing fancy but I love itemizing my parts lists haha
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      Quote Originally Posted by ZZZZZZZ View Post
      Use to hate excel. I love it now, and need to add all the P2 data in from three to keep track. I guess I better do that soon.
      450 for some Cs near me...
      https://washingtondc.craigslist.org/...908700430.html
      The first Co-op I had made me fall in love with excel, it's so nice to make modular lists with. I quoted shipping wheels months ago when you told me about those free Amalthea's you knew about. If they could be shipped it might be worth it, but I may be taking a road trip at the end of the summer that would open up me shopping nationally for a set. Is $450 a good price for a set of Propus C's? They're not in perfect condition but none of my wheels are...
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      Quote Originally Posted by Zoinks View Post
      I think that different gear ratios can be argued to be better than others, that's out of my knowledge base, but squeezing every ounce of speed out of a car can easily be pushed there. I also think that the main preference is if the extra cost is worth it or not, and that is not only the age old question (I've been writing too many discussion posts like this for online history class lately haha) but also the one I'll be answering soon. Luckily, from my perspective, I don't think I can make a wrong decision.
      You can make a wrong choice. For example, if you were building a 850 to be a GT car, any M56 swap would be the wrong answer. The AW50-42LE's long ratios are much nicer on the highway, but at the expense of making whatever they're in an abysmal city car. That's why my 850R is getting a M66D.
      1995 850 T-5R Estate. AW50-42LE. Cream Yellow/Graphite. 296k.
      1997 850R Estate. RN/M66D. Bright Red/Graphite. 270k.
      1999 V70 T5. Nautic Blue/Graphite. M56. 173k.
      2007 S60 T5. M66W. Black Sapphire/Arena. 136k.

      Past: |1997 855R. Bright Red/Light Beige. AW50-42LE. Totaled by wayward construction equipment. || 1996 854R. Black Stone/Graphite. AW50-42LE. Parts car || 1995 854 TURBO. Polar White/Tan. AW50-42LE. Parts car. |
      Dad: 1997 V70 T5 SE. AW50-42LE. Frost Green/Oak. 212k.Mom: 2004 V70 NA. AW55-50SN Ruby Red/Tan 266k. <--- FOR SALE!!

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      Scottish and Jared would know for sure, but they come up so rarely. I fear as old as many of our cars are getting, stuff just goes to the yard and gets crushed and is gone forever.
      Refinish lightly yourself as long as they're not cracked or bent would save a lot. If you get over this way, let's have a beer or a coffee!
      Quote Originally Posted by Zoinks View Post
      The first Co-op I had made me fall in love with excel, it's so nice to make modular lists with. I quoted shipping wheels months ago when you told me about those free Amalthea's you knew about. If they could be shipped it might be worth it, but I may be taking a road trip at the end of the summer that would open up me shopping nationally for a set. Is $450 a good price for a set of Propus C's? They're not in perfect condition but none of my wheels are...
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      Quote Originally Posted by Zoinks View Post
      The first Co-op I had made me fall in love with excel, it's so nice to make modular lists with. I quoted shipping wheels months ago when you told me about those free Amalthea's you knew about. If they could be shipped it might be worth it, but I may be taking a road trip at the end of the summer that would open up me shopping nationally for a set. Is $450 a good price for a set of Propus C's? They're not in perfect condition but none of my wheels are...
      Kinda high. $400 is about what a mint set has been going for for a while
      2003 V70 T5 - Mystic/Graphite - M56LK - 195k - "O-Three"
      1999 V70 T5 - Pewter/R Graphite & Alcantara - AW42 - 290k - Work Wagon
      1999 V70 T5 - Nautic/R Graphite & Alcantara - M56H - 174k - Rescue
      1999 V70 T5 - Emerald/Graphite - M56H - 119k - Garage Queen
      2000 V70 T5 - Mystic/Graphite - AW42 - 238k - Moms Unicorn
      2000 S70 GLT SE- Mystic/Graphite - AW42 - 212k - Sisters

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      Quote Originally Posted by Zoinks View Post
      The first Co-op I had made me fall in love with excel, it's so nice to make modular lists with.
      I'm a fan of the Mac OS version (numbers), or open/libre office now that Microsoft is going full subscription mode.

      Really excited to see you make progress on this thing! I'll try and share what I've learned with my R. First bit of knowledge, taking it slow and fixing a few small things at a time is much, much easier than trying to delve in right away.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Zoinks View Post
      Ultimately I would really like to go all in and RN swap a 855R, or build & m66 swap a 2000 VR, currently one of those two is my dream car. Did they even build passion red VR's in 2000?
      No, that ended with '99. Venetian was the reddish color for '00.

      Great read and congrats on the new to you R!
      Past: '94 854, '99 S70 T5 SE, '99 S70 GLT, '04 S60R M, '12 S60 T5, '13 S60 T5, '15 S60 RD, '05 V70R GT
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      Quote Originally Posted by ZZZZZZZ View Post
      Scottish and Jared would know for sure, but they come up so rarely. I fear as old as many of our cars are getting, stuff just goes to the yard and gets crushed and is gone forever.
      Refinish lightly yourself as long as they're not cracked or bent would save a lot. If you get over this way, let's have a beer or a coffee!
      My girlfriend and I actually want to do an East Coast road trip at the end of the summer, so I might take you up on that beer offer!
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      Quote Originally Posted by CYB3RBYTE View Post
      I'm a fan of the Mac OS version (numbers), or open/libre office now that Microsoft is going full subscription mode.

      Really excited to see you make progress on this thing! I'll try and share what I've learned with my R. First bit of knowledge, taking it slow and fixing a few small things at a time is much, much easier than trying to delve in right away.
      Getting the subscriptions free from school and work are nice, but not going to last forever lol. But I will definitely be excited for when I bring the R back to Milwaukee, hopefully we get larger meets by then.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Wayne T5 View Post
      No, that ended with '99. Venetian was the reddish color for '00.

      Great read and congrats on the new to you R!
      Thank you! Excited to pick it up and get it back on the road! IDK how I feel about Venetian, passion/bright red really do something for me. I'll have to track down passion 99's then. Maybe join the p2r gang, but that's barely in my 5 year plan
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      Quote Originally Posted by Wayne T5 View Post
      No, that ended with '99. Venetian was the reddish color for '00.

      Great read and congrats on the new to you R!
      Passion Red didn't come out till the P2 era. All the red P80s are 601 except 850Rs in 609.
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      Quote Originally Posted by JaredR View Post
      Passion Red didn't come out till the P2 era. All the red P80s are 601 except 850Rs in 609.
      Is the color code different or just the name? I've always known and seen it as 601 passion/classic red for both p80 and p2
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      Quote Originally Posted by Zoinks View Post
      Is the color code different or just the name? I've always known and seen it as 601 passion/classic red for both p80 and p2
      Passion Red color code is 612. I haven't seen them right next to each other so can't comment on the differences. 601 is called Classic/ Signal Red.
      Past: '94 854, '99 S70 T5 SE, '99 S70 GLT, '04 S60R M, '12 S60 T5, '13 S60 T5, '15 S60 RD, '05 V70R GT
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      Quote Originally Posted by Wayne T5 View Post
      Passion Red color code is 612. I haven't seen them right next to each other so can't comment on the differences. 601 is called Classic/ Signal Red.
      I'm dumb, I knew it was 601 classic/signal red lol. Passion and classic look almost indistinguishable side by side. Classic and Bright I haven't seen side by side. . . yet
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