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      Junior Member jimbofranks's Avatar
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      What are your thoughts on the pre-facelift (06-09) models?

      I took a look at 2006 today that had less than 50k miles.

      The body was clean only a couple of small issues with the paint that could be taken care of or just as easily ignored. All maintenance to date has been done. It's clean, not enthusiast owned, but in reasonably good condition. The only real negative is that the owner seems to have used the Braille method of finding curbs and each wheel shows curbing. No accidents and the seller is the original owner. In short I like it.

      My big area of concern is the top! Is the top mechanism a reason to search out a newer C70 or at least not a first year model? I guess the other issue might be the clearance for changing the TB. It looks tighter under the hood on this car than it is under the XC70.

      My history with Volvos includes owning an '06 XC70 since new and a '14 XC90 that we bought last year. I've done the maintenance on both for the last year. Including replacing the TB, PCV system and the Haldex pump on the XC70, the XC90 really has only needed oil changes.

      If anyone has any thoughts or can point to a good thread or two I would appreciate it.

      Thanks!
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      I've had two issues with my 09 roof, both self-inflicted: .... first was when I bent a pin on one of the CRM plugs while installing the SmartTop module, second time was the first warm day this year I pushed the roof button and absolutely nothing happened... a VIDA scan indicated that the roof module had stopped talking to the central electronics module on the day that I needed a jumpstart after leaving the ignition all day... a "hard reboot" (disconnecting battery for 10 minutes or so) fixed that.

      I take the fact that this board and the other one I frequent has so few posts regarding any issues with the roof as an indication that it is not a significant problem area... worst case scenario there is a document/video around here showing how to manually close the roof so you can drive an overweight rattly coupe with an enormous trunk

      Even though the mileage is low, do make sure the timing belt has been changed... it's due at 120,000 miles or ten years, whichever comes first, and a failed belt will result in engine damage that would barely be worth repairing
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      Thanks!

      I hadn't seen much at all about the roofs, but there's always that scare. I do remember reading posts a few years back about parts being NLA or hard to source. I imagine that was from someone whose car had been hit and they were trying to repair it.

      The TB is definitely on my mind. It looks a fair bit tighter under the hood than on the XC70. Changing this will be one of the first things that I do.
      '06 XC70
      '14 XC90
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      What are your thoughts on the pre-facelift (06-09) models?

      I agree with Sysyphus. Well worth buying if itís in good shape and the price is right. I own both a pre- and facelift C70, and have had no issues with eitherís roof mechanisms. (The roof liner in the Ď08 started sagging, but that was due to weak glue that separated the retaining clip holder from the roof. Some Gorilla Glue took care of that.)

      If you visit the S40 & V50 (2005- 2012) forum, youíll see lots of great info on engine upkeep. Most of the P1 owners (even the C30 elites) use that forum for discussing common repairs or maintenance items like TB, coolant tank leaks, FPS, alternator, PCV breather box, motor/torque mounts, and that cheap but devastating-when-it-breaks T-connector for the washer fluid line on the underside of the hood ó all common issues with P1s. At least we donít have the sunroof drain clog problem!

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      Thanks 88domer.
      I hadn't realized that the S40 & V50 forum would have the information about the C70, but it makes sense. I usually don't venture much over here.

      The car is in great shape. Certainly better than any sub $12k C70 I've seen on the lots over the last year or so. I'll be bringing my DICE unit with me tomorrow and if it checks out I'll get it.

      Thanks again everyone!
      '06 XC70
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      Specific to the looks I only considered pre face-lift models when purchasing. IMHO they jacked up the gorgeous original pinninfarina design after the face-lift. No way I would own one of those.
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      As an owner of my '07 for only 4 months, I still love it.
      Just changed timing belt at 86k so I hope I see 3 more years. You guys with '10-'13 models, squirrel this note away and call/text 330-559-6690 in three years as I know I'll have one more.

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      Quote Originally Posted by wcoates View Post
      As an owner of my '07 for only 4 months, I still love it.
      Just changed timing belt at 86k so I hope I see 3 more years. You guys with '10-'13 models, squirrel this note away and call/text 330-559-6690 in three years as I know I'll have one more.
      Trading or adding? (Go with the latter. )

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      Pre-facelift includes 2010. 😉

      I only targeted pre-facelift because M66.

      Oh, and get 2008 or newer if you want more power!
      2009 Hilton Stage 2 C70 M66 Passion Red/Graphite/Aluminum - Quaife LSD installed! Has anyone else noticed gear whir in 3rd and 4th? Or a "clunk" from the SPEC SMF and R clutch (or front LCA poly bushings?) at startup?
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      What are your thoughts on the pre-facelift (06-09) models?

      Quote Originally Posted by jimbofranks View Post
      I'll be bringing my DICE unit with me tomorrow and if it checks out I'll get it.
      Jimbo, how about an update now that itís in the fleet?
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      Jimbo - MY2006-7 C70's had TSB #83163 to protect the Trunk Lid Wire Harness and TSB #175 to to inspect/replace the Retractable Hard Top mechanism. Evidently dealer would reroute the wiring of the Hard Top Mechanism, replace the trunk lip seal and inspect/replace the SRS Control Unit if necessary.

      Check dealer records (if available) to see if this has been done.

      My 2008 suffered from a harness failure a few years back. It was NOT inexpensive to fix, though I asked my dealer to check TSB #83163 and #175 for my VIN...as I purchased an early 2008 'As Built' C70 via OSD.

      I never received a satisfactory answer from my dealer regarding the VIN's covered by these TSB's. The dealer did do everything they could to 'patch up' my wiring harness..but ultimately needed to replace the harness at my considerable expense.

      That said - I called Volvo Cars US and got a 20% discount coupon on parts and accessories...so received some money back for the Harness. Helped a little, but not with the considerable labor cost associated with the removal/replacement of the HTC wiring harness.

      That said - LOVE my C70...Top up or down!
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      Mine: 2008 C70 M66 OSD Kaixen HID SmartTop
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      Thanks for the info on the TSBís Tomkat. I donít think that they were done based on the records I received.

      I like the car a lot, Iím glad I finally bought one.
      '06 XC70
      '14 XC90
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      My two small adds are that if you need to have the timing belt replaced, also do the upper engine mount at the same time, as it has to be removed and put back anyway, as part of the timing belt job. So they should put in a new upper engine mount for just the part cost (and this upper engine mount is prone to failure....) Also have the auxiliary belts replaced at the same time (should also be just the cost of the parts). Probably no need to replace the water pump, unless there is evidence of leaks, or shaft play.....

      Check the integrity of the CV joint boots on the front axle shafts (both the outer AND inner boots). These are somewhat exposed to road "hazards", and getting torn. Once torn, the CV joints are not long for this world.... There is no way to replace the boots without removing the half-shafts, unless you go to less-effective "wrap-around" after-market boots. Half-shaft replacement is not that bad of a job, labor wise, although the genuine Volvo half shafts are kind of pricey.

      The only top issue I ever had on my 2007 was that the little yellow button in the trunk (used to slightly raise the lowered top, to access the trunk storage under the lowered top) stopped working at some point. In fact, repeated pressing of it would cause the "brains" for the top to get confused.... I was basically advised by my dealer to just forget that feature existed, and don't press the yellow button! (They basically said that the cost of trying to diagnose and fix that minor feature wasn't worth it.)

      I guess the other typical problem that I had was the fuel pressure regulator failed - this is actually a pretty easy DIY repair.

      Oh, I also had the AC clutch wear to the point that it was never disengaging. I also fixed this myself by removing the AC clutch, and changing the spacers/shims inside, to bring the AC clutch's clearances back within spec. (Following a procedure and suggested use of tools that I found on this forum.) Kind of a lengthy process, but with negligible parts cost (just a shim/spacer "kit" from Volvo) - I used free loaner tools from Autozone for the AC clutch puller, and the clutch holder.

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