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      AWD tire replacement question

      So, as it turns out, when some idiot drove into the driver's side front corner during the summer, they also managed to knock my alignment (toe-in) out of whack. I wasn't paying close enough attention to it- and it wore out the inside shoulder of my 10,000 mile old Nokian WRG4.

      With most AWD/4WD vehicles, they say to replace all 4. However, since our cars are not constant AWD, is this really even necessary? I might be down 2/10 on the remaining good tires...

      I'm thinking that when it's due for rotation in 800 miles, move the backs to the front and have a pair of new installed for the back. Thoughts?
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      I think I may have answered my own question- if the car sticker from Volvo is saying for 1-3 passengers that the tires should be inflated to 32 psi front, 30 psi rear, the car is already effectively driving on 2 different rolling diameters from front to back. Right?
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      2/32" is acceptable.
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      You could also ask Tirerack.com. I once had to replace a tire with 20 thou on it. They shaved the new replacement tire for 20 bucks

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      Quote Originally Posted by chefricky View Post
      You could also ask Tirerack.com. I once had to replace a tire with 20 thou on it. They shaved the new replacement tire for 20 bucks
      The thought of doing that never occurred to me, downside, I can't get Nokians from Tire Rack.

      I have an email in to the retailer I bought them from to see if they can shave them, if not, incredibly coincidentally, there is a race tire specific shop around the corner from them that does shave tires, I imagine I'd need it re-balanced then
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      Just gathering information off Internet, so it's worth what it's worth

      Starting with 2003 the AWD was an AOC system, tire difference was less critical that with the older viscous AWD prior to 2002

      There is this thread talking about it https://volvoforums.com/forum/volvo-...ne-flat-18900/

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      Quote Originally Posted by Orange View Post
      Just gathering information off Internet, so it's worth what it's worth

      Starting with 2003 the AWD was an AOC system, tire difference was less critical that with the older viscous AWD prior to 2002

      There is this thread talking about it https://volvoforums.com/forum/volvo-...ne-flat-18900/
      Thanks, Orange!

      Have to hijack my own thread here, just had the dreaded "EL SYSTEM SERVICE REQUIRED" message show up, along with a flickering battery light, so the tire(s) will have to wait until I get the replacement alternator in- otherwise I won't make it as far as the tire shop and back, based on my last experience with the message in the V70...
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      Quote Originally Posted by metalbender View Post
      Thanks, Orange!

      Have to hijack my own thread here, just had the dreaded "EL SYSTEM SERVICE REQUIRED" message show up, along with a flickering battery light, so the tire(s) will have to wait until I get the replacement alternator in- otherwise I won't make it as far as the tire shop and back, based on my last experience with the message in the V70...
      May only need the regulator (fcpeuro), if the bearing/clutch spin fine - cheaper fix and you don't have to pull the alternator out (just off the bracket)

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      OK, alternator in! Ordered Friday from FCP with 3 day shipping, got here yesterday afternoon. Woohoo! Their video, though, I don't know about, there was no way of getting it out on the right side, so a made a cardboard 'sled', and got it out on the air cleaner side.

      Back to the tires: I'm thinking now that the tires are down as much as 4/32" from new. The race shop said they won't shave street tires. I guess I'm a little baffled by that other thread, Orange, nobody has the actual technical answer in regards to the Haldex/rear diff. Maybe Tech will see this and have an answer? I'm a few days out from going to the tire shop yet, this alternator thing ate into my time budget (and into my money budget, too)
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      Quote Originally Posted by metalbender View Post
      I think I may have answered my own question- if the car sticker from Volvo is saying for 1-3 passengers that the tires should be inflated to 32 psi front, 30 psi rear, the car is already effectively driving on 2 different rolling diameters from front to back. Right?


      This makes my brain question it, your car has this on a label? Granted every year can be different, but I checked mine (09) and it just specs out 35 PSI cold, all 4 corners the same, no variance for passenger count. Weird
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      Quote Originally Posted by spiked60 View Post
      This makes my brain question it, your car has this on a label? Granted every year can be different, but I checked mine (09) and it just specs out 35 PSI cold, all 4 corners the same, no variance for passenger count. Weird
      Yep, the sticker on the inside of the fuel hatch. It says either 39 or 39 psi fully loaded, which Waukegan Tire always winds up inflating to; but it feels super squirrelly driving at that pressure on I-94 when I'm the only one in the car

      Edit: When they were just newly installed, I called Nokian, asking what psi I should have them at for warranty reasons, they just said, 'You can follow Volvo's suggested psi'
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      2002 V70 2.4 N/A. 261k miles. Totaled for the second time November 16, 2016, RIP. - "Elin"
      2004 S60 2.5T AWD (crossword hints for the bold) - "Håkan"

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      Latest update (which may also be handy for spiked60): Finally found a shop: Big Bear Tire in Oconomowoc, WI does tire shaving and sells Nokian tires! It just took finding the right shop that sells them and sells autocross racing tires. Apparently they will shave whatever you bring in.

      I have to wait until mid December to get in, but will try to drive gingerly until then.

      Thanks to all!
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      2004 S60 2.5T AWD (crossword hints for the bold) - "Håkan"

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      Quote Originally Posted by metalbender View Post
      Latest update (which may also be handy for spiked60): Finally found a shop: Big Bear Tire in Oconomowoc, WI does tire shaving and sells Nokian tires! It just took finding the right shop that sells them and sells autocross racing tires. Apparently they will shave whatever you bring in.

      I have to wait until mid December to get in, but will try to drive gingerly until then.

      Thanks to all!
      Nice!
      After Firestone ripped one of my winter tires, I got a whole set of 4, and had just put summer (all season) tires on my S60, and on my 164, so hopefully I am not doing rubber for a few years lol
      The daily, 2009 S60 2.5T AWD, Ice White, Shark Stage 1, need gone NLT 1/30/2020 - sale post: https://forums.swedespeed.com/showth...D-White-Oak-6k

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