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      Rear view mirror 1800es

      Anyone know or better yet have a picture on how the rear view mirror attaches to the roof of a 1800es. Couldn't feel anything when I went to reattach the mirror and unfortunately I wasn't the one to remove it.

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      Quote Originally Posted by StewartL View Post
      Anyone know or better yet have a picture on how the rear view mirror attaches to the roof of a 1800es. Couldn't feel anything when I went to reattach the mirror and unfortunately I wasn't the one to remove it.
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      There is a spring inside the fitting attached to the roof, the end of this spring runs across the inside tangent of the hole that accepts the beveled stud (pin) on the mirror nase.

      Make sure that the spring deflects slightly with a flat screwdriver, perhaps apply a dot of grease on it and flex it a few times. Then apply a small film of grease on the pin, place it on the hole in the roof fitting and give it a firm rap with the heel of your palm and it will pop in
      Currently: 2016 XC90 T8, 1973 1800ES Original D-Jet, 1973 142 B20B, 1977 242 B230FT
      Previously: 1974 144 B20B, 1974 142 B20F, 1989 740, 1981 242 GLT, 1996 740, 1999 V70

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      Make sure that the spring deflects slightly with a flat screwdriver, perhaps apply a dot of grease on it and flex it a few times. Then apply a small film of grease on the pin, place it on the hole in the roof fitting and give it a firm rap with the heel of your palm and it will pop in
      All good advice. If the retaining spring in the fitting on the roof is anything like the retaining spring in the fitting on my 1971 142E, it may require more than a 'firm rap'. Having received various pieces of advice that fell into 'just push hard' category and greasing everything up and confirming that the retaining spring was actually moving, I gave up because I could not shove it in by hand. I ended up placing a small bottle jack on the transmission hump and with a piece of 2x4 between the bottle jack and the base of the mirror (some rags for protection), used the bottle jack to slowly press it into place. An extra set of hands to hold everything in place while you are doing this helps. Also, as I extended the bottle jack I wiggled the mirror back and forth a little bit to work the bevelled stud past the retainer spring. It went in with a rather loud snap and I initially thought I had broken something.

      You may be lucky and not require the bottle jack treatment. Just be aware that it may require a really big shove. Makes me wonder about the rear view mirror specialist / gorilla that Volvo must have hired to install these things on the assembly line.

      Of course, this presumes that you have the fitting that attaches to the roof and receives the mirror.

      http://www.skandix.de/en/spare-parts...irror/1049639/

      If not, you are going to have to start the search for that piece. VP Auto lists it; but, shows it as out of stock. Email before you order because out of stock frequently turns into unavailable.

      http://www.vp-autoparts.com/main.asp...&artno=1221025
      A 142 of course. What do you expect? I'm the 142 guy. / 1971 142 E 102 color

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      Thank you 142 guy. Unfortunately they left the bracket with the old headliner and the upholstery shop tossed it. The painter is going to try and make a replacement which he should be able to do but in the mean time I'm Sent vp parts an email and now that I know what to look for I can expand the search for a used one.

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      You are sort of lucky because there are a number of 1800 salvage specialists who may be able to provide you with the part (my 140 doesn't get the same kind of love). Other forum members can probably provide you with the contact info for these guys if you don't have 'the list' already. The only reason I suggest this is that knowing what the part is, I think fabricating a good looking replacement is going to be difficult.

      Good luck with it.
      A 142 of course. What do you expect? I'm the 142 guy. / 1971 142 E 102 color

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      Hey 142guy, quite the endeavor to get your mirror back on, I'm a bit surprised as I have done this a few times and yes it is a VERY firm rap with the heel of my hand I never had to use any tools.

      My 1800ES parts car was from Washington state and the body was rotten, but the drive train and interior were excellent. The car I rebuilt was from Arizona and had a sunburnt interior, When I swapped the interiors over the mirror popped off and on as I described.

      I do have the old 1221025 from the parts car, so StewartL if you cannot find a new part from VP (if they can't get you one ...) PM me.
      Currently: 2016 XC90 T8, 1973 1800ES Original D-Jet, 1973 142 B20B, 1977 242 B230FT
      Previously: 1974 144 B20B, 1974 142 B20F, 1989 740, 1981 242 GLT, 1996 740, 1999 V70

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      Pictures of 1221025, front and back

      Here are pictures from the part from my 1800ES parts car.

      EDIT: Added photo of back of mirror bracket to show pin

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      Last edited by scaramoucheii; 11-17-2019 at 11:29 AM.
      Currently: 2016 XC90 T8, 1973 1800ES Original D-Jet, 1973 142 B20B, 1977 242 B230FT
      Previously: 1974 144 B20B, 1974 142 B20F, 1989 740, 1981 242 GLT, 1996 740, 1999 V70

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      I must have girly hands. Just like everybody recommended, I wacked the base of the mirror (where the stud is mounted) with the side and heel of my hand. No go with just a really sore hand to show for it. I tried whacking it with a 3" diameter rubber mallet and it wouldn't go in. That's when I decided to bring out the thermonuclear option.

      The reason for the two part 'spring loaded' design eludes me. Perhaps it is to break away when the head of an unrestrained occupant is projected forward in a front-on collision and hits the mirror - just before their head crashes into the windshield?
      A 142 of course. What do you expect? I'm the 142 guy. / 1971 142 E 102 color

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      Quote Originally Posted by 142 Guy View Post
      The reason for the two part 'spring loaded' design eludes me. Perhaps it is to break away when the head of an unrestrained occupant is projected forward in a front-on collision and hits the mirror - just before their head crashes into the windshield?
      That is precisely the intent of the design, satisfying NTSB Head Impact Criteria (HIC) requirements. Surprisingly, perhaps, a belted in occupant may be able to collide with the mirror, given the inertia lock delay and stretch of the seat belt. Other notable design elements are padded and/or dished steering wheels, collapsing steering columns, and inertia seat belts for chest deceleration, and sloped or padded dash panels for femur loads.
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      Quote Originally Posted by scaramoucheii View Post
      Hey 142guy, quite the endeavor to get your mirror back on, I'm a bit surprised as I have done this a few times and yes it is a VERY firm rap with the heel of my hand I never had to use any tools.

      My 1800ES parts car was from Washington state and the body was rotten, but the drive train and interior were excellent. The car I rebuilt was from Arizona and had a sunburnt interior, When I swapped the interiors over the mirror popped off and on as I described.

      I do have the old 1221025 from the parts car, so StewartL if you cannot find a new part from VP (if they can't get you one ...) PM me.
      Thank you Scaramucheii

      I do have a lead on one however if it falls though I will let you know.

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      Hey StewartL

      I notice that your in SB, do you ever get down south of LA? There is a great shop in Torrance, and it's a real Alladin's cave of Vintage Volvo stuff. They will have a 1221025. Also if you need any service that requires expert knowledge

      Hi Performance Auto Service
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      Currently: 2016 XC90 T8, 1973 1800ES Original D-Jet, 1973 142 B20B, 1977 242 B230FT
      Previously: 1974 144 B20B, 1974 142 B20F, 1989 740, 1981 242 GLT, 1996 740, 1999 V70

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