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      Hi,
      I have recently bought S60 which came with 235/40R19 summer tyres. I am already late to change the summer to winter tyres. when I asked volvo they gave wheels of 235 /45R18 for around 1700 euros which I found was so expensive. Now I asked a big car repairing centre in our region and they said 1200 euros for winter tyres with 225/45R18. They checked few times if it fits this model and confirmed it. They said in winter it us always better to have lower size because of aquaplaning. Since I am new to this changing tyres and not so tech savy, I thought of getting few suggestions from you guys. Is it okay if I go with 225/45R18? Does someone have experience with this lower size? Please help.
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      It is okay to go with that size, however I would recommend getting dedicated wheels and tires and not just tires.
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      Thanks. This is including rim. Sorry I must have written wheels.Do you have experience with downsizing wheel sizes for new S60? In this new model, no room left for many wheel size options.
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      I don’t have experience specific to S60 but others cars. You live in Europe only tires size allowed would be sold mounted so you are okay. If you’re asking what’s better size to have it’s as always a debate, given the exact same compound and pattern wider tires are better for traction on dry, cold, and ice conditions. Narrower tire are better for deep snow, slush, and water. However a proper design tire with proper channels is as good or not better then a narrower tire.

      In the end i would go with the cheaper option only as is as good as the dealership price without the extra Volvo cost. If it was USA I would do much more research on the cheaper brand but in Europe with laws and legislation you know that it is a good tire.

      Hope this helps!
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      I am currently running 18" Volvo rims with no issues at all.
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      How about 225/45 instead of 235/45?how does it affect driving? Sorry I have zero knowledge in all these things. In this region, not much snow compared to Munich. This new wheel I ordered is from Dunlop in class C for petrol consumption and B for snow conditions.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Sofias60 View Post
      How about 225/45 instead of 235/45?how does it affect driving? Sorry I have zero knowledge in all these things. In this region, not much snow compared to Munich. This new wheel I ordered is from Dunlop in class C for petrol consumption and B for snow conditions.
      The 225 is a narrower tire then the 235 as I mentioned above the narrower tire would potentially be better for deep snow and water.

      Munich is also light on snow until you go more south closer to alps and ITALY.
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      Thanks a lot Kamil. This means 235/45 could have been better, but 225 /45 is not bad either, right? 235 option is more expensive.

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      Both are good, can’t go wrong with either one just based on size. I would also go with the cheaper option based on information provided.
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      I am bit relieved. Thanks a lot.

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      You need to ensure that the overall tire size is the same. Here is an online tire size converter. Are you sure on the size of your summer rims/tires? Here in Canada my T6 RD size was 235/40R19. You can check my looking directly on the tire. Once you have your size go here: https://tiresize.com/converter/

      When I input your value of 235/45R19 the 18" size tire you need is 235/50R18. If you go with a 225 size tire, your odometer will be off.
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      I have 235/45 18 so you'll be fine with 18

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      Now I am confused.yes my summer tyres are 235/40R19. I wrote 45 by mistake. I corrected it now.
      Does this mean I cannot go for 225/45 R18, but use 235/45R18 for winter? When I used the link you given there are choices in green field which shows the 235/45R18 as alternate size.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Sofias60 View Post
      Now I am confused.yes my summer tyres are 235/40R19. I wrote 45 by mistake. I corrected it now.
      Does this mean I cannot go for 225/45 R18, but use 235/45R18 for winter? When I used the link you given there are choices in green field which shows the 235/45R18 as alternate size.
      You got to be careful with internet help LOL.

      The overall size being the same he is speaking of final radius of the wheel. If you go with a smaller rim you normally get a bigger side wall (second) number in sequence 225/XX/R18.

      Even that he is technically correct about going with a “50” side wall vs “45” the difference is so small you won’t see any difference in speedo or ABS.

      In the end Volvo them self recommend the tire size for you, so don’t get confused by other people telling you this won’t work as Volvo is telling you it will.

      The second tire choice has the same side wall but small width that is also fine. That’s first number in sequence XXX/45/R18

      I would recommend to just watch some YouTube video about tire sizes just so you know for future
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      One Volvo dealer recommended 235/45R18 winter tyres. I am using now 235/40R19 summer tyres. ATU, an auto repairing shop in fact a big chain in Germany recommended 225/45R18 saying it will be okay. When they gave this 225/45R18 for S60 in a page, it showed okay.

      Again I called another volvo dealer, and they said even if I go for 235/45R18,the software need to be changed. This means each time from 18 to 19 R and vice versa the software need to be updated. The first dealer did not mention it.
      Last edited by Sofias60; 11-28-2019 at 02:26 AM.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Sofias60 View Post
      Again I called another volvo dealer, and they said even if I go for 235/45R18,the software need to be changed. This means each time from 18 to 19 R and vice versa the software need to be updated. The first dealer did not mention it.
      The change to a 235/45R18 tire is only a 3mm/.1” difference in diameter from your current tires, I would be surprised this would need a software update. I think you could get this difference just with variance in tire inflation or even tire wear over time and updating the software each time seems excessive.
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      Quote Originally Posted by beers View Post
      The change to a 235/45R18 tire is only a 3mm/.1” difference in diameter from your current tires, I would be surprised this would need a software update. I think you could get this difference just with variance in tire inflation or even tire wear over time and updating the software each time seems excessive.
      Exactly,

      People that have been changing wheels for some time especially if you ever owned a Jeep know the truth.

      Dealership will always try to get you to pay cash for something you don’t need. I’m sure they will also tell you you need alignment and pilot assist calibration as well when changing tires don’t they Sofias60, just ignore it.

      Sometimes you just need to educate yourself and perform research. It’s hard sometimes online as some people have less experience then others or simply quote a grandpa logic or what a dealership told him.

      To summarize as stated long time ago both sets will work and you are good to go.

      Good luck
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      Thanks to both of you.

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      The only official 18” tire size is 235/45R18, this size is matching the diameter of the 245/40R19 summer tires.
      40 or 45 is not the absolute high of the sidewall, it’s the percentage of the width.
      Software adaption is only necessary, if the diameter is different, it has to be an official size, and/or tires are wider and the car I’ll have a bigger turning circle (f.e. XC90 18” to 22”). There is no software adaptation necessary switching between the official 18” and 19” on the S60.
      Last edited by TomOldi; 11-30-2019 at 07:44 AM.

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      Thanks for your clarification.I have 235/40 R19 summer tyres.

      Do any one of you know which offset I should look for when I buy the winter 235/45R18 wheels? I found ET 42, ET 45, and above. I know what offset means but not sure how I should relate to a summer 19 inch wheels to winter 18 inch wheel!

      If someone can be a bit specific about that, it could help me a lot. I saw MAK Stockholm rims with ET45 18 inches and Goodyear 8 x 18 235/45 R18 98V. Are these suitable for new 2019 model S60 T5 R design?
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      You’re welcome.

      Official Volvo 18” are, depending on the Rim width 42 or 45.
      8 x 18 = ET 42
      7.5 x 18 = ET 45

      MAK should be fine, including original bolts and center cap.
      https://www.makwheels.it/en-ch/stock...45gd3x.aspx#!/

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      This MAK wheel is 8x 18 ET45 instead of ET42. Does that make any difference as you said 8x 18 is ET42 and 7.5 x18 is ET45?

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      This means the MAK is 3mm closer to the Suspension https://www.reifenrechner.at/index.h...8&2fb=8&2et=45 the trak is narrower.
      No big issue for normal use, but probably snow chains won’t fit, sadly there is no up to date ABE online, for MAK part no F8080KSIB45GD3X.

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      Quote Originally Posted by TomOldi View Post
      This means the MAK is 3mm closer to the Suspension https://www.reifenrechner.at/index.h...8&2fb=8&2et=45 the trak is narrower.
      No big issue for normal use, but probably snow chains won’t fit, sadly there is no up to date ABE online, for MAK part no F8080KSIB45GD3X.
      I do not need snow chains. If ABE is not up to date, I am not going to buy it. Do you have any other suggestions?

      https://www.makwheels.it/en-ch/polar...si42gd2y.aspx#!

      This might be suitable or? Where did you check if ABE is up to date? Could you please share that as well?
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      Made a new search and found new ABEs

      Stockholm http://b2b.makwheels.it/SysInf/MAK/D...X-63,4-A01.pdf
      Polaris http://b2b.makwheels.it/SysInf/MAK/D...Y-63,4-A01.pdf

      For the Polaris there is no S/V60 Typ Z until now, which is the new version...

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      Thanks a lot. Highly appreciate your help. Meanwhile I too found ABE for Stockholm in MAK site. I found RIAL polar Silber also fit S60 Z.

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      You’re welcome.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Sofias60 View Post
      One Volvo dealer recommended 235/45R18 winter tyres. I am using now 235/40R19 summer tyres. ATU, an auto repairing shop in fact a big chain in Germany recommended 225/45R18 saying it will be okay. When they gave this 225/45R18 for S60 in a page, it showed okay.

      Again I called another volvo dealer, and they said even if I go for 235/45R18,the software need to be changed. This means each time from 18 to 19 R and vice versa the software need to be updated. The first dealer did not mention it.
      if your car is registered in Germany, then you can't install any "random" tire size. Check which are official sizes approved for the car. This is normally printed on registration card.
      If something goes wrong and police checks tire size versus registration then car gets towed away.

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      ABE is for that right?

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