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      2018 vs 2019 V90 RD w/ Polestar

      Are there any major differences between the two model years? They both seem similarly optioned with basically everything available, as an order only car should be. 10k mile difference (the '19 has less miles) and both cars are CPO'd.

      Is the difference with the head unit speed that big of a deal?

      The '18 is an early one assembled in September '17.

      The '18 is Passion Red vs the '19 being an Onyx Black.

      I can get the red one for $45, and the dealer with the black one is sticking to $53, so that is definitely driving me towards the red one as long as the head unit isn't too terrible on the '18.
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      I personally do not find a huge difference between the faster boot time with MY19+ models. I have driven a variety of MY19 and MY20 loaners, and it hardly matters to me. If I were you, I would go with the MY18 and if planning to own the car for long, put part of the savings towards a PPF for that beautiful red wagon!
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      Thanks for the input. At this price difference there really isn't much of a question, but I still want to know if I will be frustrated with it.

      What is a PPF? Paint protection film?

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      I think there's still more room on that price. My wife and I picked up our 18 V90CC this past July, was a demo car with 6K miles on it. Got it for $38,500.
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      Yes, those prices sound out of line. I paid ~$42k in October 2019 for my new 2018 V90 T5 R Design with A-Plan discounting. There are not as many incentives even on A-plan right now as back a year ago but you should be able to do much better than the numbers you're indicating. Also, my 2018's Sensus is quite fast enough but I may have been late enough in the model year to get the Sensus upgrade anyway

      Quote Originally Posted by iggy17 View Post
      I think there's still more room on that price. My wife and I picked up our 18 V90CC this past July, was a demo car with 6K miles on it. Got it for $38,500.
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      If you are bothered by the start/stop feature, the 19 allows you to turn it off whereas the 18 you have to deactivate each drive cycle. I have 20k on my 19 already and itís been great. Iím sure you canít go wrong with either year though!


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      Quote Originally Posted by TJBNJ View Post
      If you are bothered by the start/stop feature, the 19 allows you to turn it off whereas the 18 you have to deactivate each drive cycle. I have 20k on my 19 already and itís been great. Iím sure you canít go wrong with either year though!


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      This enough would make me go for the 19. The start/stop feature on the 18 is infuriating.
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      Quote Originally Posted by amarshall View Post
      This enough would make me go for the 19. The start/stop feature on the 18 is infuriating.
      Agreed. My rage is compounded by the extra few seconds the 2018 sensus needs to boot before start/stop can be quashed.

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      What is it about stop/start that bothers you two? I've used it for years in Europe and now here in the USA with my 2018 V90CC where it works fine and does not hinder the car in any measurable way.

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      Iíve just never liked the brief stutter upon restarting and I really could care less about the economical/environmental benefits. I just do t see any benefit to it in how I like to drive. Just personal preference and I like that on the 19ís you can disable it.


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      Quote Originally Posted by gak View Post
      What is it about stop/start that bothers you two? I've used it for years in Europe and now here in the USA with my 2018 V90CC where it works fine and does not hinder the car in any measurable way.
      It is fairly seamless, but I have mechanical sympathy for the car. It doesn't need to crank 10 times on a trip that only needs 1 start. I'd like to keep my V90 for several years and would rather not "abuse" it.

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      Quote Originally Posted by gak View Post
      What is it about stop/start that bothers you two? I've used it for years in Europe and now here in the USA with my 2018 V90CC where it works fine and does not hinder the car in any measurable way.
      I'm with you on this. It's certainly better in the Volvo than in my two previous vehicles (one Jeep, one Mercedes). It only bothers me on two occasions: Stop and go traffic, and when I'm about to enter my garage. In both cases, slipping into manual mode solves the issue...and using manual mode in S&G has the advantage of using engine breaking more so you're not constantly on and off the brake.

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      You guys saying I can get a better deal on the 2018, where? I have done a country wide search for the V90 R Design and there were only 7 on Autotrader. None were priced better, one was close, but it was in an accident. I would love to get a better deal, especially on a 2019. The dealership was asking $51,500 for the red one which I have them at $45 on.

      The original stickers were both $68k on these cars too, just for the sake of full knowledge on what I am looking at.

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      Quote Originally Posted by VLD1 View Post
      I'm with you on this. It's certainly better in the Volvo than in my two previous vehicles (one Jeep, one Mercedes). It only bothers me on two occasions: Stop and go traffic, and when I'm about to enter my garage. In both cases, slipping into manual mode solves the issue...and using manual mode in S&G has the advantage of using engine breaking more so you're not constantly on and off the brake.
      When entering your garage, you can also just unbuckle your seatbelt. That disables Start/Stop.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Bl3nder View Post
      It is fairly seamless, but I have mechanical sympathy for the car. It doesn't need to crank 10 times on a trip that only needs 1 start. I'd like to keep my V90 for several years and would rather not "abuse" it.
      It's mechanically designed for it. The starter is hefty enough to take the abuse, and like all starters has few moving parts. And once the engine is up to operating temp there's no real additional wear on the engine to start and stop for a few seconds at a time.

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      Quote Originally Posted by TJBNJ View Post
      and I really could care less about the economical/environmental benefits.
      ....and that is why it was made a fixed feature on <18 cars.

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      Quote Originally Posted by LJG79 View Post
      You guys saying I can get a better deal on the 2018, where? I have done a country wide search for the V90 R Design and there were only 7 on Autotrader. None were priced better, one was close, but it was in an accident. I would love to get a better deal, especially on a 2019. The dealership was asking $51,500 for the red one which I have them at $45 on.

      The original stickers were both $68k on these cars too, just for the sake of full knowledge on what I am looking at.
      Both examples mentioned in this thread are people with the T5 set-up. Your deal sounds like a T6 AWD with almost all add-ons (68k sticker). Although not having researched the market value of the Wagons recently, your deal sounds decent to me. More importantly, go for it if you feel you're getting a good deal as these V90 wagons are rare to come by (fully loaded and the red exterior paint) as they are usually special ordered by owners wanting to keep them for a long time or forever.

      Also, PPF is Paint Protection Film as you correctly guessed.
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      2018 vs 2019 V90 RD w/ Polestar

      If you found one you like, grab it! They are almost impossible to come by. I ordered mine and did OSD to get the exact one I wanted (fully loaded T6 Bursting Blue w/Polestar, leather, carbon fiber, advanced package, air suspension, B&W). I did full front end and rear bumper PPF and whole car ceramic. Personally, I would do the 19 but only you can decide on that one. Good luck!


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      Yeah. If you're looking at T6s those prices are probably about right. Also if you have the B&W system that could explain the fighter numbers.

      I just snatched up a CPO MY18 V90 R about a month ago, after doing a nation-wide search. What I found was that the lowest I could get for the options I wanted, was around $44-46K. O, and I got the passion red too &#x1f642;.
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      And as far as sensus boot times, I haven't had an issue. You might be talking about a few seconds to get full control over all the options... But as far as getting in the car and driving, there isn't anything to get annoyed about.
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      I would deff take 2019 . 2018 sensus system 2x slower than 2019. When i had loaner cars and most were 2019 its deff huge difference in speed. I dont know how people saying they dont see difference unless they got last 2018 models that had that upgrade. But to get 2018 with same sensus as 2019 is 50/50
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      My V90 build date was April 2018. Do I have the new or old Sensus?
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      Quote Originally Posted by rdr854 View Post
      My V90 build date was April 2018. Do I have the new or old Sensus?
      if its MY19 than you have new system if its MY18 most likely its the old one.
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      I think I jinxed it. My sensus crashed 3 times in a row this morning. It seemed stable after that, And didn't crash at all during 5-6 subsequent startups... But hopefully this isn't a sign of more trouble to come.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Pauls90 View Post
      I would deff take 2019 . 2018 sensus system 2x slower than 2019. When i had loaner cars and most were 2019 its deff huge difference in speed. I dont know how people saying they dont see difference unless they got last 2018 models that had that upgrade. But to get 2018 with same sensus as 2019 is 50/50
      I have to agree with this - recently had a '19 XC60 loaner, and that thing booted-up much faster than my '18 V90's. The mid-level HK stereo was also much better sounding than the base stereo in our cars.

      With that, I'd much rather have the (rare) red colored V90 RD than a black one, so tough call.
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      Quote Originally Posted by choochjb View Post
      I think I jinxed it. My sensus crashed 3 times in a row this morning. It seemed stable after that, And didn't crash at all during 5-6 subsequent startups... But hopefully this isn't a sign of more trouble to come.
      Had you recently updated maps? That seems to be part of the pattern when my Sensus goes through a reboot spasm.

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