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      Performance parts for Volvo! Vaitrix USA

      Greetings guys! Just wanted to introduce ourselves and some of the products we offer (and are also in the process of developing) for the Volvo SPA platform.

      A few owners here are familiar with our previous tuning work on various cars (Alfa Romeo, Jeep, Abarth, etc) as Eurocompulsion. We specialize in design and manufacturing of performance items (air intakes, intercooler kits and more), as well as ECU tuning and piggyback tuning. We've secretly been Volvo enthusiasts for quite some time, and owned quite a few over the years. However, we have yet to enter into development for Volvo cars until now. While we will still carry a wide range of Volvo items through our EC website, we've also began a smaller operation (Vaitrix USA) meant to specialize in performance electronics, specifically piggyback ECUs, plug and play boost gauges and electronic throttle/pedal controllers. Our performance items will be offered on both websites. We tune and deal with many applications that are slowly working their way onto our site, but we typically lean more towards a few specific platforms to invest more time and thorough development into. In the past this has largely been FCA cars (Alfa Romeo, Maserati, Jeep, etc). This list now also includes Volvo.

      For the past few months we have done a great deal of development work on the SPA platform, specifically the T5 and T6 engines. Most of the T6 applications are already available for sale: https://vaitrixusa.com/collections/volvo-ecu-tuning

      This includes a versatile piggyback unit with multiple models (Booster ECU: https://vaitrixusa.com/blogs/product-info-booster-ecu) and a plug and play boost gauge setup (GEN2 Gauge: https://vaitrixusa.com/blogs/product-info-gen2-gauges)

      We have quite a few informational videos and tech articles on these products, which are currently available for the T6 engine. We are wrapping up testing on the T5 as we speak. Our current shop vehicles we own are a T6 S60 R-Design (with Polestar Opt), a T6 XC90, and a T5 XC90.

      Testing information and dyno results for the T6 can be found here: https://vaitrixusa.com/blogs/dyno-database-volvo

      At the moment we are working on a few different intake system prototypes, as well as an intercooler system upgrade. We've also began development work on a complete ECU reflash with multiple features and options. This is further out on the timeline as the encryption process and protocols take much longer to develop. We would like to create a work around that doesn't involve having to patch the ECU first off the car in order to enable OBDII communication like on some past Volvos. Our piggyback ECU is designed to run in conjunction with an ECU tune as well depending on the setup and running the correct maps (it can 3D map water/methanol and allow end user control over boost in anyway). We have a great deal planned for the Volvo platform, and will be offering a plethora of performance items.

      Our Booster ECU is different compared with a few other units on the market. It not only connects to boost sensors, but also the cam position sensor. Our tuning software (which is accessible to end users and offers self tuning capabilities for those that purchase the PRO model) can 3D map based on rpm, load and throttle position for precise tuning and accuracy without compromising drivability. It's bluetooth compatible and offers multiple maps for various modifications. Testing on this unit was done with an emphasis on maximizing the effectiveness of the boost curve, while maintaining engine safety and ensuring that fuel delivery and air/fuel mixtures are not compromised in anyway. Our Stage 1 tune has been on our S60 for about 6000miles, and is performing great.

      We'll start specific threads shortly for each individual products, and if you have any questions in regards to technical information, please feel free to shoot them our way. We drive these cars everyday, and have spent a considerable amount of time dissecting how they work and perform.

      Stay tuned for more!

      (A few pics of our S60)



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      The complete ECU tune looks promising but what fail safes are in place on the piggyback setup to prevent overboost or to monitor fuel trims for lean conditions?

      I have always been hesitant with piggyback setups as they are designed to fool the ECU with inaccurate data to achieve performance gains.

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      Quote Originally Posted by spb2127 View Post
      The complete ECU tune looks promising but what fail safes are in place on the piggyback setup to prevent overboost or to monitor fuel trims for lean conditions?

      I have always been hesitant with piggyback setups as they are designed to fool the ECU with inaccurate data to achieve performance gains.
      let's see what they will say about that. Piggybacks are evil and dont like them.

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      Quote Originally Posted by spb2127 View Post
      The complete ECU tune looks promising but what fail safes are in place on the piggyback setup to prevent overboost or to monitor fuel trims for lean conditions?

      I have always been hesitant with piggyback setups as they are designed to fool the ECU with inaccurate data to achieve performance gains.
      That's a great question. Yes, the Booster ECU has a few fail safes to ensure that what the piggyback is masking is not carried beyond what is intended (like boost creep, or other power failure scenarios). Here is what it can do:

      1. Power fail safe: if for any reason one of the sensors loses signal, power, connection or communication (the Booster tracks this), it will automatically power off and allow signal pass through, effectively putting the car back to stock.

      2. Boost/Voltage fail safe: the tuning data programmed in the cells are pre-calculated to adjust the boost sensor voltage in order to achieve a set psi of boost pressure. These are determined by us and calculated inside the piggyback's CPU. If for any reason the boost sensor voltage exceeds that which equates to the maximum desired boost pressure set in the CPU of the Booster (for example, loss of wastegate control, boost leak, boost creep, etc), it will automatically shut off like above, allowing signal pass through and putting the car back to stock. This prevents overboost scenarios beyond what the mapping is designed to increase, and the Booster ECU is able to monitor the actual voltage from the sensor (which is the actual pressure in the manifold) not the changed signal from the ECU.

      This is one of the reasons why we also sell in conjunction with any tuning items an accurate boost gauge as well. This gauge is designed to plug directly into the manifold sensor, and works in conjunction with the piggyback to deliver accurate boost numbers. This way you are always aware of what is going on with the boost control system.

      The Booster does not monitor fuel trims or AFRs (although it could if we wired up the appropriate connector to the correct sensor, this is something we do on some cars depending on the application). However, we monitor Lambda values as first priority when tuning, regardless of whether or not it's a piggyback or ECU tune, to ensure that the AFRs are within a safe and appropriate range, and that as a result of the adjustment the fuel injection system is not having to work overtime to keep up.

      Modern wideband systems are very advanced and have the ability to adjust needed fuel output to maintain a certain mixture. Datalogging on the T6 while tuning with the Booster on the dyno shows that in the midrange on the stock tune, the engine runs a much leaner mixture. However, once we began changing boost, the fuel system compensated quite nicely with a more ideal mixture without having to increase duty cycles or overall output. Because of the change in mixture, the ECU also adjusted timing output to be more effective, which resulted in power and efficiency.

      This chart and info is also on our testing page:


      If for any reason the wideband system does not maintain this control over a safe fuel mixture with the addition of tuning, we scrap this mapping and go back to the drawing board.
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      Quote Originally Posted by BusteRT6 View Post
      let's see what they will say about that. Piggybacks are evil and dont like them.
      I understand the sentiment completely. Coming from a background of using both ECU tuning and piggyback tuning, there are pros and cons to both.

      The problem with many piggyback systems (which causes some to believe they are evil) is that they're limited in what they actually do. Most connect to (2) boost sensors, and just raise the factory boost curve by X amount without attention to fuel mixtures or other drivability factors. This is a very elementary way of piggyback tuning, but unfortunately very common.

      Our unit detects load using voltage and can rapidly change signal according to rpm in increments of 50-80rpm. Powerful processing speed also makes this more effective. The result is true 3D mapping, not just on a single scale like I described above. This allows for proper boost control at lower loads and rpm, ensuring the car is not making too much boost at part throttle stages. It also allows for proper tapering of boost at higher rpm where things need to be kept under control. It allows for the adjustment of gaps in the boost curve without increasing boost in places you don't want or need to. It's a very safe but effective system.

      I will also note that on my own car, I was averaging around 22-23mpg when stock. I mostly drive in Dynamic/PSTAR optimized mode. Even with the change in fuel mixtures in the chart above (which actually are much safer and ideal for power compared to how the car was stock), my fuel economy has been about the same.
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      Good to see you guys starting to get the word out. Someone mentioned Vaitrix here and I had found the website and the products and dyno write up. Looks to me like you guys are making a solid effort. I'm tempted...just not over the hump yet to try it, but soon...

      I had the same opinion of piggybacks, it's just so easy and cheap to make a bad one and sell a bunch of them without anyone realizing it's crap. Any company that invests in cracking the ECU like a Cobb, APR etc. has usually got to make a quality product and stick around or they will go under. Then I saw what burger tuning has done with the JB4 and it did change my mind, you can definitely make a go of it, and arguably less intrusion into the car. My buddy with an S4 went the APR route and now he has the dreaded TD1 warranty flag on his car!

      Not surprised at the stoich AF ratios deep into the throttle, that seems to be business as usual for OEMs to keep emissions in check these days. Saw the same thing in the Subaru community. Ethical concerns aside, you have so much more freedom to make a bit of power safely in the aftermarket game!

      What do you think of the stock tuning from what you see, is it pretty good? I left the Subaru world wondering what the calibration engineers are thinking, there are so many odd issues with drivability so easily fixed with a tune, probably attributable to making the ancient EJ25T play nice with modern reality but then the FA20T comes and the same oddities all over again.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Power6 View Post
      Good to see you guys starting to get the word out. Someone mentioned Vaitrix here and I had found the website and the products and dyno write up. Looks to me like you guys are making a solid effort. I'm tempted...just not over the hump yet to try it, but soon...

      I had the same opinion of piggybacks, it's just so easy and cheap to make a bad one and sell a bunch of them without anyone realizing it's crap. Any company that invests in cracking the ECU like a Cobb, APR etc. has usually got to make a quality product and stick around or they will go under. Then I saw what burger tuning has done with the JB4 and it did change my mind, you can definitely make a go of it, and arguably less intrusion into the car. My buddy with an S4 went the APR route and now he has the dreaded TD1 warranty flag on his car!

      Not surprised at the stoich AF ratios deep into the throttle, that seems to be business as usual for OEMs to keep emissions in check these days. Saw the same thing in the Subaru community. Ethical concerns aside, you have so much more freedom to make a bit of power safely in the aftermarket game!

      What do you think of the stock tuning from what you see, is it pretty good? I left the Subaru world wondering what the calibration engineers are thinking, there are so many odd issues with drivability so easily fixed with a tune, probably attributable to making the ancient EJ25T play nice with modern reality but then the FA20T comes and the same oddities all over again.
      Yes, one big advantage to using a piggyback unit is that it leaves no footprint. The only real parameter it can actively change are PID trims within the ECU. However, these are temporary, and going back to stock (which is incredibly easy to do) slowly reverts them back to normal after a few miles. Piggybacks have come a long way over the years.

      As far as the stock tuning, it seems very solid, however very Volvo. The changes in fuel mixture are definitely down to emissions, I suspect to account for the very aggressive top end. On the T6, even after the supercharger has de-clutched, it runs very aggressive boost at high rpm (more so than I would have thought). It's almost like it gets a second wind, but as a result they're allowing for richer targets at that point (and for good reason). The only thing lacking is the associated spark advance, it's incredibly conservative, and I've found that even with slight increases (and the appropriate changes to AFRs to go with it) these engines pick up quite a bit of lost power with more timing. Tuning with the Booster ECU assisted with this change to pick up extra power without having to add more boost than was needed, which is a good thing. That's something we will look into exploiting more as time goes on.
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      Can you give any hints as what to expect from the full-blown ECU Tune rather than the Booster? I am extremely excited about this, especially having come from a Giulia which had just about every option you guys offered performance-wise installed. The differences were extreme. Anything else in the works, such as an Exhaust, etc?


      Side note... I actually still have the handheld tuner unit from my Giulia tune. Are you guys utilizing the same unit for ECU programming on the Volvo's as well? If so, will you offer tune replacements that could be loaded onto my handheld as opposed to me purchasing another one altogether?

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      Quote Originally Posted by MJEWETT View Post
      Can you give any hints as what to expect from the full-blown ECU Tune rather than the Booster? I am extremely excited about this, especially having come from a Giulia which had just about every option you guys offered performance-wise installed. The differences were extreme. Anything else in the works, such as an Exhaust, etc?


      Side note... I actually still have the handheld tuner unit from my Giulia tune. Are you guys utilizing the same unit for ECU programming on the Volvo's as well? If so, will you offer tune replacements that could be loaded onto my handheld as opposed to me purchasing another one altogether?
      Right now the plan is to utilize that same handheld, so yes, in theory once OBDII is setup, the handheld brand can be switched and used on the Volvo. The only charge would be for a transfer for tuning and not the whole kit again.

      At the moment I cannot offer really any hints, I'll know more once we are able to begin testing. The flash communication is the biggest obstacle to overcome, no ETA when that will be available.

      We've toyed with the idea of an exhaust setup, just not sure how far we want to go with that. We may have some other offerings from reputable brands (like Magnaflow, etc) that we assist in testing and designing. One test performed so far was eliminating the entire mid section and rear of the exhaust to see how the powerband changed. That resonator near the front of the exhaust is deadening a lot of sound, because once it was removed, the car sounded absolutely crazy (it was way too much for anyone to be comfortable with) so we're working on what is feasible performance wise and still easy to live with sound wise.

      Right now the Booster ECU is a great option as we plan to further develop the offerings for it, and the price for it is very reasonable (something worth running for a while with solid gains until other tuning is possible).
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      Quote Originally Posted by VaitrixUSA View Post
      Right now the Booster ECU is a great option as we plan to further develop the offerings for it, and the price for it is very reasonable (something worth running for a while with solid gains until other tuning is possible).
      Any plans to extend to Volvo T8 models? Or with the engine being the same as the T6, thoughts on applying the current booster ECU to the T8?
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      Any plans to extend to Volvo T8 models? Or with the engine being the same as the T6, thoughts on applying the current booster ECU to the T8?
      Absolutely, yes. The unit and harness should connect on T8 cars exactly the same as it does as the T6. The only performance affected will be on the engine side parameters, without affecting the the battery side. Any boost in performance from the charging system will just stack on top of the engine performance increases.

      We have a map developed and the hardware is ready to go. Ultimately we need to get another T8 back into the shop, or locate a beta tester.
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      Well isn't this nice to see...Merry Christmas to me

      So why do we need the USB tuning cable if you get the BT module, can the BT not do what the cable does?

      Also the question on PSTAR on the site are you asking to add PSTAR or w/ PSTAR means my car has it already?

      I had the JB Pro on my BMW 340i...the V60 was missing this

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      Will this trickle down or do you have anything for the previous T6 3.0 Volvo from 2011-2015?

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      Interesting stuff... Unrelated but curious, what are your aftermarket wheel specs?

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      Quote Originally Posted by Ender View Post
      Well isn't this nice to see...Merry Christmas to me <img src="http://www.vwvortex.com/Anthony/Smilies/smile.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Smile" class="inlineimg" />

      So why do we need the USB tuning cable if you get the BT module, can the BT not do what the cable does?

      Also the question on PSTAR on the site are you asking to add PSTAR or w/ PSTAR means my car has it already?

      I had the JB Pro on my BMW 340i...the V60 was missing this <img src="http://www.vwvortex.com/Anthony/Smilies/smile.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Smile" class="inlineimg" />
      My understanding of this is you select your tune choice based on your current vehicle’s factory spec. If your car came with or you added on Polestar, you’d select the w. Polestar option. If not, you’d select the w.o. Polestar option.

      I’m assuming they are revising each map specifically; stock map as well as Polestar map considering each one has many more specifics than just pure alterations for power gains. The polestar tune has specific calibrations for the AWD system, trans, traction intervention, and phasing for the turbo and the supercharger. I’m sure EC/Vaitrix we’re tuning to include each tune states specific parameters to maximize both as much as possible. That way, it doesn’t negate the effect one would have using it on a Polestar tunes car compared to the difference on a non-Polstar tuned car.

      And for the adaptor options; I think having the usb cable option and the Bluetooth option is really just preference. Maybe some laptops people will be using are not Bluetooth compatible, or are older and less reliable than using a direct connection? That would be my guess. I know that for my situation, i have a MacBook Pro running parallels so I can have windows as well, but my computer doesn’t allow for the macs Bluetooth module to be utilized with the current windows software since the available plugins aren’t compatible. Therefor for me, I would most likely need the USB adapter.

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      Quote Originally Posted by VaitrixUSA View Post
      Quote Originally Posted by MJEWETT View Post
      Can you give any hints as what to expect from the full-blown ECU Tune rather than the Booster? I am extremely excited about this, especially having come from a Giulia which had just about every option you guys offered performance-wise installed. The differences were extreme. Anything else in the works, such as an Exhaust, etc?


      Side note... I actually still have the handheld tuner unit from my Giulia tune. Are you guys utilizing the same unit for ECU programming on the Volvo's as well? If so, will you offer tune replacements that could be loaded onto my handheld as opposed to me purchasing another one altogether?
      Right now the plan is to utilize that same handheld, so yes, in theory once OBDII is setup, the handheld brand can be switched and used on the Volvo. The only charge would be for a transfer for tuning and not the whole kit again.

      At the moment I cannot offer really any hints, I'll know more once we are able to begin testing. The flash communication is the biggest obstacle to overcome, no ETA when that will be available.

      We've toyed with the idea of an exhaust setup, just not sure how far we want to go with that. We may have some other offerings from reputable brands (like Magnaflow, etc) that we assist in testing and designing. One test performed so far was eliminating the entire mid section and rear of the exhaust to see how the powerband changed. That resonator near the front of the exhaust is deadening a lot of sound, because once it was removed, the car sounded absolutely crazy (it was way too much for anyone to be comfortable with) so we're working on what is feasible performance wise and still easy to live with sound wise.

      Right now the Booster ECU is a great option as we plan to further develop the offerings for it, and the price for it is very reasonable (something worth running for a while with solid gains until other tuning is possible).
      Awesome! Thanks, that’s exactly what I was hoping for. Glad I held on to it now.

      Can the booster kit be removed from one vehicle and installed in another? Or does it marry to the car and lock out like the handhelds did and require a transfer.

      Only asking as I’m getting a replacement S60 through a buyback and, if so, I’ll have to hold out until the new car comes in.

      Also, I noticed you guys were getting 0-60 times of a hair over 6 seconds... was that with or without the Polestar tune? I’d also assume the 5.5 with the booster you pulled was based on the same as without (stock non polestar, booster non polestar / or stock w. polestar, booster w. polestar). I’m curious about this because it seems a lot of reviews on the S60s are pulling vastly different 0-60 times. Car and driver got 5.2, you guys got 6, I’ve seen them kinda all over the place. Same goes for the T8. I’m wondering if the location in comparison to sea level had affects on the times everyone is seeing?

      I’d hate to know Volvo is fluffing their 0-60 times with these engines... especially since the 3.0 T6’s were always quicker than quoted by Volvo. Journalists were pulling sub-5 second times on previous-gen R-designs with the 3 liter and polestar tune.

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      Quote Originally Posted by MJEWETT View Post
      Awesome! Thanks, thatís exactly what I was hoping for. Glad I held on to it now.

      Can the booster kit be removed from one vehicle and installed in another? Or does it marry to the car and lock out like the handhelds did and require a transfer.

      Only asking as Iím getting a replacement S60 through a buyback and, if so, Iíll have to hold out until the new car comes in.

      Also, I noticed you guys were getting 0-60 times of a hair over 6 seconds... was that with or without the Polestar tune? Iíd also assume the 5.5 with the booster you pulled was based on the same as without (stock non polestar, booster non polestar / or stock w. polestar, booster w. polestar). Iím curious about this because it seems a lot of reviews on the S60s are pulling vastly different 0-60 times. Car and driver got 5.2, you guys got 6, Iíve seen them kinda all over the place. Same goes for the T8. Iím wondering if the location in comparison to sea level had affects on the times everyone is seeing?

      Iíd hate to know Volvo is fluffing their 0-60 times with these engines... especially since the 3.0 T6ís were always quicker than quoted by Volvo. Journalists were pulling sub-5 second times on previous-gen R-designs with the 3 liter and polestar tune.
      No one is fluffing anything. So, are we doubting/dismissing Volvoís and Car and Driverís numbers because some aftermarket company is reporting different numbers?
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      Quote Originally Posted by MJEWETT View Post
      Iím curious about this because it seems a lot of reviews on the S60s are pulling vastly different 0-60 times. Car and driver got 5.2, you guys got 6, Iíve seen them kinda all over the place. Same goes for the T8. Iím wondering if the location in comparison to sea level had affects on the times everyone is seeing?

      Iíd hate to know Volvo is fluffing their 0-60 times with these engines... especially since the 3.0 T6ís were always quicker than quoted by Volvo. Journalists were pulling sub-5 second times on previous-gen R-designs with the 3 liter and polestar tune.
      Is this due to C&D doing the 1 foot rollout? That would work heavily in favor of the heavy Volvo. Most of the 0-60 times i see line up with Volvo and Polestars claim. The newer T8 seems to see the biggest difference from claim to test.
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      Although performance tests do frequently fall within a narrow band for the same model, you can't account for weather conditions, different testing procedures, equipment variations and more. So it's hard to compare two different results from two different sources with any relevance. What I take away from the Vaitrix video is the tune improved 0-60 .5 seconds. Assuming they were pretty consistent within their own testing: same day, same conditions, same road then the comparison is good.

      Extrapolating that to the results of a magazine test, there's too many variables. We know Car and Driver uses a weather correction so we don't even know what their raw results were. Almost a second in 0-60 is more variation then you typically see between professional tests but there isn't any clear conclusion you can draw from that.

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      Quote Originally Posted by GrecianVolvo View Post
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      Awesome! Thanks, that’s exactly what I was hoping for. Glad I held on to it now.

      Can the booster kit be removed from one vehicle and installed in another? Or does it marry to the car and lock out like the handhelds did and require a transfer.

      Only asking as I’m getting a replacement S60 through a buyback and, if so, I’ll have to hold out until the new car comes in.

      Also, I noticed you guys were getting 0-60 times of a hair over 6 seconds... was that with or without the Polestar tune? I’d also assume the 5.5 with the booster you pulled was based on the same as without (stock non polestar, booster non polestar / or stock w. polestar, booster w. polestar). I’m curious about this because it seems a lot of reviews on the S60s are pulling vastly different 0-60 times. Car and driver got 5.2, you guys got 6, I’ve seen them kinda all over the place. Same goes for the T8. I’m wondering if the location in comparison to sea level had affects on the times everyone is seeing?

      I’d hate to know Volvo is fluffing their 0-60 times with these engines... especially since the 3.0 T6’s were always quicker than quoted by Volvo. Journalists were pulling sub-5 second times on previous-gen R-designs with the 3 liter and polestar tune.
      No one is fluffing anything. So, are we doubting/dismissing Volvo’s and Car and Driver’s numbers because some aftermarket company is reporting different numbers?
      Not doubting or dismissing anything. Just wanted to hear Vaitrix’s input on the tested performance that they were able to produce. I asked if they were at a high altitude which would definitely stifle some of the performance of a turbo’d car and affect the 0-60 times pretty harshly.

      Many companies fluff their performance figures, whether it be positively or negatively. BMW tends to rate their performance figures on the lighter end as it helps them avoid certain taxation/emissions brackets. A perfect example is the new Z4/Supra which consistently dynos at impressively higher HP/TQ values. Another reason this is done is to avoid the possibilities of not meeting performance figures. It’s better to undersell something than published the “best produced” outcome and hope it does it time and time again. That way, no ones called out or disappointed.

      I know that there are always variables between testing. I was merely asking if Vaitrix had any input as to why they might have received the 0-60 times they did.

      The T8’s and Polestar engineered models have been widely reported as not meeting Volvo’s performance claims. Plus, we do not know what type of controlled testing and environment Volvo produces their 0-60 times with. It’s hard to replicate the unknown, though many cars often produce their quoted figures.

      One issue that seems to be commonly discussed is that Volvo, among many companies with performance hybrid setups, does not account for max Combined performance figures Of the ICE and Electric engines at a single time. Rather, they take peak outputs of each and combine them, which doesn’t really add up that way. If the electric engine makes a peak HP output of 87 horsepower at a certain point, and the engine makes its peak HP figures at a completely different point in the powerband, you are never really getting the claimed horsepower.

      Volvo isn’t the only company who does this, and I am not doubting or dismissing Volvo’s claims. Rather, just curious as to what may have been affecting this specific 0-60 result.

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      Quote Originally Posted by frankieuc View Post
      Will this trickle down or do you have anything for the previous T6 3.0 Volvo from 2011-2015?
      At the moment, only SPA vehicles. I've had a lot of questions from P3 owners about the boost gauge, so we are trying to get a car to verify the connectors. I don't know if we will be getting the tuning functions available for these cars, but I believe at least the MAP sensor connector is the same, so we should be able to get the plug and play boost gauge available for some of the older models.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Ender View Post
      Well isn't this nice to see...Merry Christmas to me

      So why do we need the USB tuning cable if you get the BT module, can the BT not do what the cable does?

      Also the question on PSTAR on the site are you asking to add PSTAR or w/ PSTAR means my car has it already?

      I had the JB Pro on my BMW 340i...the V60 was missing this
      Before now, you needed the USB tuning cable to download maps to the Booster, as well as to use the tuning software and self tuning functions. However we just revised the bluetooth app, and over Christmas the app will be updated to now include direct access to the map cloud for download.

      So moving forward, you only need the USB tuning cable if you desire to self tune (in which case, this is only applicable to the Pro model). Otherwise, the bluetooth functions can do anything you need it too.

      The PSTAR option is based on what you already have on the car. We made a map for the T6 on both the PSTAR optimization and the non optimized version as well (I had the optimization flashed to my own car shortly after purchasing). The reason is boost is slightly different, and the numbers had to be changed just slightly for each version of the car.
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      Quote Originally Posted by EMRtek View Post
      Interesting stuff... Unrelated but curious, what are your aftermarket wheel specs?
      The wheels are Avant Garde. We are a distributor of AG wheels. We worked with them to get the bore/hub and bolt pattern correct so they could offer various models for this car (for sure the S60 and V60).

      These are 20x9 with 30 offset. I didn't plan on lowering the car just yet, but wanted to fill out the wheel gap. Going up a size helped do this, and the offset gives it a slightly wider stance (which I wanted).

      I will say, I put the stock 19s back on for winter, and the ride/comfort on the 20 inch only suffered slightly. The stock 19s feel a little more cushy, but I like the look of the 20s overall.
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      Quote Originally Posted by MJEWETT View Post
      Awesome! Thanks, thatís exactly what I was hoping for. Glad I held on to it now.

      Can the booster kit be removed from one vehicle and installed in another? Or does it marry to the car and lock out like the handhelds did and require a transfer.

      Only asking as Iím getting a replacement S60 through a buyback and, if so, Iíll have to hold out until the new car comes in.

      Also, I noticed you guys were getting 0-60 times of a hair over 6 seconds... was that with or without the Polestar tune? Iíd also assume the 5.5 with the booster you pulled was based on the same as without (stock non polestar, booster non polestar / or stock w. polestar, booster w. polestar). Iím curious about this because it seems a lot of reviews on the S60s are pulling vastly different 0-60 times. Car and driver got 5.2, you guys got 6, Iíve seen them kinda all over the place. Same goes for the T8. Iím wondering if the location in comparison to sea level had affects on the times everyone is seeing?

      Iíd hate to know Volvo is fluffing their 0-60 times with these engines... especially since the 3.0 T6ís were always quicker than quoted by Volvo. Journalists were pulling sub-5 second times on previous-gen R-designs with the 3 liter and polestar tune.
      Yes, the Booster can be removed at anytime, and you can use it on any vehicle that we have a specific harness for. The only additional cost for switching it to another car is to get the correct harness, but they're very cost efficient.

      In regards to the 0-60 times (and I'm going to try and cover everyone's questions in this one post so I don't have to quote everyone individually), these were done when the car was not PSTAR optimized. They were conducted on the same day, and same conditions. The Booster is very easy to put back to stock, so after doing the tuned runs, we switched to the stock map (the car has no other modifications) and ran WOT a few times until boost went back down to stock levels. Then we conducted the stock timed runs.

      As far as magazine times, typically they allow 1ft rollouts and are conducted with pro drivers (which I am not). They do use weather corrections (which we did not). I've seen the times vary. One outlet shows the T5 in the high 6s, and the T6 in the low 6s. I've seen someone else rate the T5 in the low 6s and the T6 in the low 5s. It's all over the place, and it largely depends on how the car is launched and the rollout.

      Our goal was just to do the tests exactly the same way, only difference being the Booster, in order to reflect what was actually gained with the unit and mapping. It could just be my driving that's contributed to the slower times. My method for the 0-60 was light brake boosting, and shifting in manual mode. I also had the 20inch wheels on the car at the time. I think the biggest factor was the manual shifting (which I did on the first tuned test, so was resolved to do it the same way everytime for accuracy). It's very possible we could get the times down by letting the car shift automatically.

      I don't think Volvo fluffs anything they put out, what I've seen on the dyno concurs with what they state as far as power numbers and output. There's just too many factors to take into account when comparing 0-60 times. This is why personally I prefer 40-100mph or 60-130mph times. Not perfect, but this takes the driver mod out of the equation for the most part, and also eliminates a number of factors and variables that exist with the 0-60 time.
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      Quote Originally Posted by VaitrixUSA View Post
      Quote Originally Posted by MJEWETT View Post
      Awesome! Thanks, that’s exactly what I was hoping for. Glad I held on to it now.

      Can the booster kit be removed from one vehicle and installed in another? Or does it marry to the car and lock out like the handhelds did and require a transfer.

      Only asking as I’m getting a replacement S60 through a buyback and, if so, I’ll have to hold out until the new car comes in.

      Also, I noticed you guys were getting 0-60 times of a hair over 6 seconds... was that with or without the Polestar tune? I’d also assume the 5.5 with the booster you pulled was based on the same as without (stock non polestar, booster non polestar / or stock w. polestar, booster w. polestar). I’m curious about this because it seems a lot of reviews on the S60s are pulling vastly different 0-60 times. Car and driver got 5.2, you guys got 6, I’ve seen them kinda all over the place. Same goes for the T8. I’m wondering if the location in comparison to sea level had affects on the times everyone is seeing?

      I’d hate to know Volvo is fluffing their 0-60 times with these engines... especially since the 3.0 T6’s were always quicker than quoted by Volvo. Journalists were pulling sub-5 second times on previous-gen R-designs with the 3 liter and polestar tune.
      Yes, the Booster can be removed at anytime, and you can use it on any vehicle that we have a specific harness for. The only additional cost for switching it to another car is to get the correct harness, but they're very cost efficient.

      In regards to the 0-60 times (and I'm going to try and cover everyone's questions in this one post so I don't have to quote everyone individually), these were done when the car was not PSTAR optimized. They were conducted on the same day, and same conditions. The Booster is very easy to put back to stock, so after doing the tuned runs, we switched to the stock map (the car has no other modifications) and ran WOT a few times until boost went back down to stock levels. Then we conducted the stock timed runs.

      As far as magazine times, typically they allow 1ft rollouts and are conducted with pro drivers (which I am not). They do use weather corrections (which we did not). I've seen the times vary. One outlet shows the T5 in the high 6s, and the T6 in the low 6s. I've seen someone else rate the T5 in the low 6s and the T6 in the low 5s. It's all over the place, and it largely depends on how the car is launched and the rollout.

      Our goal was just to do the tests exactly the same way, only difference being the Booster, in order to reflect what was actually gained with the unit and mapping. It could just be my driving that's contributed to the slower times. My method for the 0-60 was light brake boosting, and shifting in manual mode. I also had the 20inch wheels on the car at the time. I think the biggest factor was the manual shifting (which I did on the first tuned test, so was resolved to do it the same way everytime for accuracy). It's very possible we could get the times down by letting the car shift automatically.

      I don't think Volvo fluffs anything they put out, what I've seen on the dyno concurs with what they state as far as power numbers and output. There's just too many factors to take into account when comparing 0-60 times. This is why personally I prefer 40-100mph or 60-130mph times. Not perfect, but this takes the driver mod out of the equation for the most part, and also eliminates a number of factors and variables that exist with the 0-60 time.
      Awesome, thanks for all the detailed answers and explanations.

      Happy to say I just ordered the Booster Kit and am sure I’ll be more than impressed. Can’t wait to install it!
      Last edited by MJEWETT; 12-23-2019 at 07:13 PM.

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      Quote Originally Posted by MJEWETT View Post
      Awesome, thanks for all the detailed answers and explanations.

      Happy to say I just ordered the Pro kit and am sure Iíll be more than impressed. Canít wait to install it!
      Thanks! We'll get it out to you asap, and look forward to your impressions!
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      Just wanted to see if anyone has gotten this installed yet. Any first impressions to share?
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      I hope you guys do a tune for the 3.0 I6 Turbo!
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      Quote Originally Posted by choochjb View Post
      Just wanted to see if anyone has gotten this installed yet. Any first impressions to share?
      There are a few out there. I think installations have been slow due to weather and time of year.

      I'll be starting a product thread today or tomorrow that details information about the Booster. I'll also be starting one for our boost gauge kit, and a new intake upgrade piece with high flow filter option that we are releasing now.

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      I bought the Booster ECU Kit and have installed it. I will provide some comments and details on it once I do some good amount of driving and testing it out. I want to give the full adjustment period before I provide and initial responses about it.

      @Vaitrix - Guys,

      I'd love to get the new intake kit! Keep us posted as soon as it is released. I'll be the first one to click "submit order."

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      Though I have posted this in the Booster's official Thread, I figured I would share my thoughts here as well since there was a good amount of activity here.

      As it has been a few weeks driving with the Booster installed, I think it is a fair time to assess the unit.

      My first comment is... wow. Considering this is a plug and play option with zero programming required, I am genuinely astounded by the difference.

      Overall, I'd like to think of myself as a pretty avid tuner. I've had plenty of Saabs all of which I had tuned through a vermont-based tuning company appropriately named Vermonttuning. Their Vtuner ecu tune were pretty great, but as with most tunes, took a lot of time. Additionally, as with most tunes, there are always kinks that need to be worked out and fine tuned, especially as other aspects are changed. I also had a MKVI GTI that I tuned. My most recent car before the S60 was a Giulia. I utilized basically every performance option EuroCompulsion offered, so I am very familiar with Vaitrix/EC and their Staff/Customer Support.

      Because of this, I was trusting right off the bat, and I understand most won't be right off the bat. Yes, most of these plug in booster units are basically... fluff. Pretty much a plug and play unit that you can put into any car... literally the same little box labeled for various models as if they are fine tuned specifically for them. They never are.

      The Vaitrix Booster is different, because it is in fact designed specifically for these engines. And you can definitely tell. I have a 2019 S60 T6 R-Design with the Polestar tune, just for stock stats. Initially, I did notice a pretty significant difference from stock. After the "learning" period, the difference was much stronger. I would say low-end torque has definitely improved, shifts almost seem more solid now as well with the added oomph. The tranny also seems to hunt for the right gear a lot less as well, again most likely attributed to the extra power.

      The really noticeable difference is during highway driving. 100% honest, it doesn't even feel like the same car. The car MOVES when you floor it at highway speeds. This car has a ton of steam now passing power wise... and having a little fun with other drivers as well. Smashing the pedal at 80, brings you past legal speeds very quickly... And let's be honest, I'd say the most important power is power on the highway. Yeah, its fun to pull away from a stop light quickly (which this also definitely helps) but passing and getting up to higher speeds is not only safer but a ton more enjoyable now.

      I don't know if it is just me, but I almost feel as though I hear the supercharger and turbocharger a lot more, which I am enjoying nonetheless. Even with the power increase, I am actually getting much higher mpg's. I averaged 37mpg on a highway trip from CT to ME. My overall average went from 20.2 to 24.6 mpg.

      As it stands for the price, and the very limited options out there for our cars other than this unit, I'd say its the best bang for your buck. Especially when you compare it to the Heico option, which is essentially the exact same thing... a boost box, for thousands rather than hundreds.

      Installation is also very straightforward and simple. Toby helped me out a bit with some initial install hiccups, but as always, he got everything straightened out quickly and efficiently. Customer Support is huge at EC/Vaitrix and it shows. I have always received help extremely quickly between my Giulia and now my S60. Something that you don't expect anymore sadly...

      I might have been the first to get the Booster unit for the S60, and I will definitely be the first to get the full air-intake kit once released. Thoroughly impressed, as always, guys!

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      Quote Originally Posted by MJEWETT View Post
      Though I have posted this in the Booster's official Thread, I figured I would share my thoughts here as well since there was a good amount of activity here.
      ...
      I might have been the first to get the Booster unit for the S60, and I will definitely be the first to get the full air-intake kit once released. Thoroughly impressed, as always, guys!
      Excellent review!

      I think I'll be ordering mine within the next few weeks when my car arrives.

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      Quote Originally Posted by MJEWETT View Post
      Though I have posted this in the Booster's official Thread, I figured I would share my thoughts here as well since there was a good amount of activity here.

      As it has been a few weeks driving with the Booster installed, I think it is a fair time to assess the unit.

      My first comment is... wow. Considering this is a plug and play option with zero programming required, I am genuinely astounded by the difference.

      Overall, I'd like to think of myself as a pretty avid tuner. I've had plenty of Saabs all of which I had tuned through a vermont-based tuning company appropriately named Vermonttuning. Their Vtuner ecu tune were pretty great, but as with most tunes, took a lot of time. Additionally, as with most tunes, there are always kinks that need to be worked out and fine tuned, especially as other aspects are changed. I also had a MKVI GTI that I tuned. My most recent car before the S60 was a Giulia. I utilized basically every performance option EuroCompulsion offered, so I am very familiar with Vaitrix/EC and their Staff/Customer Support.

      Because of this, I was trusting right off the bat, and I understand most won't be right off the bat. Yes, most of these plug in booster units are basically... fluff. Pretty much a plug and play unit that you can put into any car... literally the same little box labeled for various models as if they are fine tuned specifically for them. They never are.

      The Vaitrix Booster is different, because it is in fact designed specifically for these engines. And you can definitely tell. I have a 2019 S60 T6 R-Design with the Polestar tune, just for stock stats. Initially, I did notice a pretty significant difference from stock. After the "learning" period, the difference was much stronger. I would say low-end torque has definitely improved, shifts almost seem more solid now as well with the added oomph. The tranny also seems to hunt for the right gear a lot less as well, again most likely attributed to the extra power.

      The really noticeable difference is during highway driving. 100% honest, it doesn't even feel like the same car. The car MOVES when you floor it at highway speeds. This car has a ton of steam now passing power wise... and having a little fun with other drivers as well. Smashing the pedal at 80, brings you past legal speeds very quickly... And let's be honest, I'd say the most important power is power on the highway. Yeah, its fun to pull away from a stop light quickly (which this also definitely helps) but passing and getting up to higher speeds is not only safer but a ton more enjoyable now.

      I don't know if it is just me, but I almost feel as though I hear the supercharger and turbocharger a lot more, which I am enjoying nonetheless. Even with the power increase, I am actually getting much higher mpg's. I averaged 37mpg on a highway trip from CT to ME. My overall average went from 20.2 to 24.6 mpg.

      As it stands for the price, and the very limited options out there for our cars other than this unit, I'd say its the best bang for your buck. Especially when you compare it to the Heico option, which is essentially the exact same thing... a boost box, for thousands rather than hundreds.

      Installation is also very straightforward and simple. Toby helped me out a bit with some initial install hiccups, but as always, he got everything straightened out quickly and efficiently. Customer Support is huge at EC/Vaitrix and it shows. I have always received help extremely quickly between my Giulia and now my S60. Something that you don't expect anymore sadly...

      I might have been the first to get the Booster unit for the S60, and I will definitely be the first to get the full air-intake kit once released. Thoroughly impressed, as always, guys!
      Excellent write up, quick question did you had the polestar tune on it before or no?

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