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      If not allowed then I suppose delete, but who doesn't like:
      A) Watching someone else spend their money
      B) Watching someone else bask in ignorance (I should have quit this project before I started)
      C) Engine build threads (more so a revival then a performance build)

      Running total on project: $$1466.00

      I always wanted one of these things in highschool, but they seemed to be fairly rare and getting more rare as the years went on, so when I found this one on the marketplace for 500.00 I decided to live my youthful lust for them in my mid 30's...

      So here is this bad decision when I got it home

      It would shoot flames out of the throttle body when I tried to start it with ether, the interior was terribly dirty, but I figured a good hazmat suit, a shop vac and some rags soaked in acetone should disinfect the thing enough to make it driveable.



      Car 400
      Gas to pick it up with truck and trailer 5 hours away 155.00
      Compression check showed dismal results....
      Cylinder 1=0 2=35 3=90 4=0, healthy it should read 130+ so I checked timing, timing was off two teeth at the crank, but that shouldn't have caused the numbers I am seeing. Given this is a NON interference motor I figured the valves didn't touch the pistons so I was safe there, or was I???

      Time to pull the motor


      Success, turns out separating the transmission in the car is a huge PITA, so I will certainly be installing them as a unit, if I don't give up on this hunk first...


      Motor out, several pounds of cat litter and bloody knuckles later, the engine is on a stand, as I am rotating the motor gravity and rotational force had become allies and were collaborating behind my back. The engine swung around and the poor distributor hit the I beam on the engine stand shattering in glorious fashion, sending the rotor and distributor bits across the garage...FFF



      I powered on... Getting the valve cover off, timing belt, head,and cams..


      I have to admit when I started this project, my budget was 1200.00 including the purchase price, this was going to be a cheap daily to screw around with and the escort GT notch on my belt... It's looking more expensive now, I have never seen a motor where every piston has seen some ****, but somehow held it together. I feel like they must have been giving eachother words of encouragement to just keep on going....
      I am also completely impressed the cylinders are not scored super bad, and there is still cross hatching... This motor is a trooper, it makes me want to save it even more, but 1200.00 will not do the job.
      Cylinder 1

      Cylinder 2

      Cylinder 3

      Cylinder 4


      My best guess is this thing over heated and the rings got too tight causing the pistons to crack/defecate... I am not sure how else to explain this damage...
      My rockauto cart is currently at 900.00 this includes everything to put the engine back together and a clutch, I have yet to complete purchase, what says the forum? Should I press on? If I go over budget then I am committed to finishing this thing, which is fine, I have considered raising the budget to 2k, but I still have to wonder what other surprises this obviously neglected GT has hidden in and around the other moving bits...
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      Wow, that's quite the project, good for you for taking it on.

      After looking at that motor my gut reaction would be to just find another motor to put in it but I'm saying that without knowing how hard it would be track down. Maybe there's a motor from a later or different model altogether that would work.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Wayne T5 View Post
      Wow, that's quite the project, good for you for taking it on.
      Or bad for me
      A new motor is 2k+
      I don't have enough interest in pulling another ???? motor only to find it needs work too, or going through pulling one on my back in a junk yard... It's either save this one or call a recycler and eat 300.00

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      Go aftermarket rods and Pistons, change compression, and give it a little extra go

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      Pistons out...

      Couple bearings from three different rods

      Close up of the worst


      Crank looks okay so far, light scoring, going to see if a shop can polish it out, or what they think. What they say will depend on the direction I take...

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      Why is this on the volvo r form?

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      Because you 5uckers dont build cars anymore, report my thread if it hurts your feelers.

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      Machinist said the crank looks like it will take a polish and be good.
      Block looks good but he'll have to run a few more tests, looks like I can reuse the rods, he'll call if there are any issues.

      Put the project next to my other project, R cameo to keep cupdriver91 happy.

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      What year? I had an 88 GT as my daily back in high school/college. $500 car missing front end forward of radiator as it was sheared off in an accident, but the car was surprisingly straight and mechanically sound. It was white with the grey sport interior and sunroof and of course 5 spd manual. Quick trip to the local pizza delivery guys Escort graveyard and I had a front end again...I worked at a pizzeria and everyone drove an Escort until it died then they parked it in the "graveyard" for parts for their next Escort. I rattle canned the front end and sprayed a fresh coat every 6 months or so. Car was far from perfect but it was cool and fun to drive and very reliable. I learned a lot from brake jobs to clutch. Good car for a kid my age at that time. Parts were cheap too.
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      Quote Originally Posted by ElementR View Post
      What year? I had an 88 GT as my daily back in high school/college. $500 car missing front end forward of radiator as it was sheared off in an accident, but the car was surprisingly straight and mechanically sound. It was white with the grey sport interior and sunroof and of course 5 spd manual. Quick trip to the local pizza delivery guys Escort graveyard and I had a front end again...
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      Supposedly these engines don't die easy, so who knows what chipped all four pistons. I don't have a pizza boy grave yard, but I do have the internet.

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      Quote Originally Posted by mobeus View Post
      two reasons:
      Disposable income
      R is problem free and it feels weird not wrenching on things

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      No offense I thought this was a board about Volvo’s and not Found On Road Dead cars!! Cant you discuss it somewhere else, like a FORD site. Sorry but I hate these cars. They are [email protected] Never seen a good ford since the early 60’s. Good luck on your escort. I’ll continue to post about Volvo related issues.


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      Quote Originally Posted by kTaLgsTo View Post
      two reasons:
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      R is problem free and it feels weird not wrenching on things
      Why not an S40? That's basically a Ford anyway.

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      Quote Originally Posted by HunterBD View Post
      No offense I thought this was a board about Volvo’s and not Found On Road Dead cars!! Cant you discuss it somewhere else, like a FORD site. Sorry but I hate these cars. They are [email protected] Never seen a good ford since the early 60’s. Good luck on your escort. I’ll continue to post about Volvo related issues.


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      uh, we are all driving fords guys, hate to break it to you... But I own four Ford's, 2 p2rs an ltd and this escort. I think the Volvo purist talk should be over in the 240 section

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      Also no offense taken, Mercedes Benz guys hate when I call my wife's jeep crd a Benz, vehicular collaboration tends to irk some people...

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      Not being the first people to live on the land has never stopped Americans from telling others to go back home, LOL. Maybe as a non-P2 owner, I’m not allowed to have an opinion about the “R Forum”.

      Just out of high school I worked with a guy that owned an Escort from this era and all he did was add gas. Not even oil changes. It’s been too long ago now to remember how many years went by, but I quit that job after a couple years and it was still running without issue. It was crazy.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Chicago_Wagon View Post
      Not being the first people to live on the land has never stopped Americans from telling others to go back home, LOL. Maybe as a non-P2 owner, I’m not allowed to have an opinion about the “R Forum”.

      Just out of high school I worked with a guy that owned an Escort from this era and all he did was add gas. Not even oil changes. It’s been too long ago now to remember how many years went by, but I quit that job after a couple years and it was still running without issue. It was crazy.
      This car was abused, mismatched rotten tires, metal on metal brakes...
      I think he only stopped driving it because it wouldn't start.
      So it appears all escort owners just drove their car and nothing else.
      Machinist called today and said the motor looks like it ran with a blown head gasket for many miles.
      I'm going to bring it back, I might even try to install some R parts on it just to be cheeky.

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      So there is no chance of fitting an R motor in it? I mean, an Escort is basically a Focus which is basically an R, right?
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      Quote Originally Posted by Enraged View Post
      So there is no chance of fitting an R motor in it? I mean, an Escort is basically a Focus which is basically an R, right?
      I have a complete R swap including ecu, and I thought about it when this escort motor was looking uglier the deeper I got, but it turns out the block is okay...
      So it's just going to be restored, then I'm going to use it to teach the wife the long lost art of driving a manual.

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      Last time my wife drove a manual trans was the first time... and my cars and I are thankful for that.
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      Quote Originally Posted by ElementR View Post
      Last time my wife drove a manual trans was the first time... and my cars and I are thankful for that.
      My wife cried last time I tried, but I don't care about this car or it's clutch, so once it's drive-able she won't be able to hurt it any worse than the previous owner did....
      Put in my rockauto order today... 571.00

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      Ya know, Ford made another vehicle back then with the letters "GT" at the end of the name, and they are more plentiful, cheaper to build, make tons more power (both before and after mods), and are basically all around cooler on EVERY level.

      Just sayin.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Phoenix R View Post
      Ya know, Ford made another vehicle back then with the letters "GT" at the end of the name, and they are more plentiful, cheaper to build, make tons more power (both before and after mods), and are basically all around cooler on EVERY level.

      Just sayin.


      I prefer the rare but undesirable approach.

      127 hp should be just about right for this build, I have the R if I get bored.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Phoenix R View Post
      Ya know, Ford made another vehicle back then with the letters "GT" at the end of the name, and they are more plentiful, cheaper to build, make tons more power (both before and after mods), and are basically all around cooler on EVERY level.

      Just sayin.
      And a far bigger money pit, trust me.... I know!
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      Quote Originally Posted by kTaLgsTo View Post
      My wife cried last time I tried, but I don't care about this car or it's clutch, so once it's drive-able she won't be able to hurt it any worse than the previous owner did....
      Put in my rockauto order today... 571.00
      Nice project! Careful on saying "trouble free" though. I recently picked up another project for the same reason, and now of course all the trouble is arising. haha

      My wife has been trying to learn stick (read:I've been forcing my wife to learn). Her XC was down for two days recently and she was forced to take one of the other cars (all manual). After those two days, she's way more confident and has even asked to take the TDI again. I was doubtful the night before during her refresher when she missed 3rd and went back into 1st going about 15-20 MPH - that hurt. haha
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      Cool that she is getting confident with a manual.
      My wife partially doesn't care, partially doesn't understand the concept.
      So it will be an uphill battle.

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      It's the exact opposite for me - the wife wanted a manual trans (she had/still has a Jeep Wrangler manual trans) so we had to special order the VR as there weren't any to be found on dealership lots across the country.
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      Moved to "Car Lounge" with extended redirect listing in "R Forum" since it's captured a fair amount of interest here.
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      Picked up Ford's 1991 version of VIDA and started some work on the Rods...



      Found one of the Rods was put in backwards from the factory, which really shouldn't matter, but I thought it was an oddity... Guess I'll keep it that way since it's ran 100k+ miles this way...



      Installed some Chinese pistons

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      Crank is in!!!



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      Spins around real nicely!



      A lot of people seem to complain about this ring compressor, but for 9.00 what do you expect?? It's a cheap piece of crap and it takes extra steps and caution when inserting the pistons, just use some patience.

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      Well the R is no longer trouble free.....




      Insurance company is wanting to scrap it out, I am fighting it... but what a bummer...

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      Quote Originally Posted by kTaLgsTo View Post
      Or bad for me
      A new motor is 2k+
      I don't have enough interest in pulling another ???? motor only to find it needs work too, or going through pulling one on my back in a junk yard... It's either save this one or call a recycler and eat 300.00
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