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      Volvo Forward Collision Warning Flaw and Recall

      I just saw this on facebook:

      I translated to English....

      https://translate.google.com/transla...volvo-modeller

      Original:

      https://fdm.dk/nyheder/bilist/2020-0...volvo-modeller

      Has anyone heard of this?

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      if this is true, I'm affected. But the VFC system already worked once.
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      I agree - my 2019 FC system has gone off at least 3 times since I owned the car and has braked hard all three times. Mind you I purchased it Oct 2018 so the build date is earlier than week 4 of 2019.

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      Quote Originally Posted by spas1 View Post
      I agree - my 2019 FC system has gone off at least 3 times since I owned the car and has braked hard all three times. Mind you I purchased it Oct 2018 so the build date is earlier than week 4 of 2019.
      My car was built on Nov 19
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      Here's the Volvo VIN search to find any recalls on your vehicle.

      https://www.volvocars.com/us/own/add...ll-information

      EDIT: sorry this link may only work for North American buyers. I think this only searches recalls registered with NHTSA.
      Last edited by Holeydonut; 03-13-2020 at 10:15 AM.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Holeydonut View Post
      Here's the Volvo VIN search to find any recalls on your vehicle.

      https://www.volvocars.com/us/own/add...ll-information
      No results
      VIN is not valid
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      My dealer Service Manager knows nothing about this yet.

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      Volvo just released the info to us within the last hour. It is Recall R29998.

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      Here's some more info:
      https://www.hln.be/auto/volvo-roept-...elgie~aeb9c07e

      Not terribly informative I'm afraid. Looks like a software issue that spans many Volvo models.



      De Zweedse autobouwer Volvo Cars roept wereldwijd zowat 736.000 wagens terug voor een mogelijk probleem met het automatisch noodremsysteem (AEB). Dat heeft de autobouwer vandaag bekendgemaakt. Voor België gaat het om een kleine 22.000 wagens, zo is vernomen bij het bedrijf.

      Volgens een woordvoerder zijn er nog geen meldingen van incidenten of ongevallen door het probleem. In bepaalde situaties en aan bepaalde temperaturen werkt het systeem niet naar behoren. Het gewone remsysteem is echter niet getroffen en de wagens kunnen normaal gebruikt worden.

      De recall is van toepassing op de modellen XC40, S60, V60, V60CC, XC60, S90, V90, V90CC en XC90 die verkocht werden in 2019 en 2020. Getroffen klanten worden op de hoogte gebracht. In de wagens zal nieuwe software geïnstalleerd worden om het probleem te verhelpen.

      In de Gentse fabriek van de autobouwer worden momenteel wagens van de modellen XC40 en V60 gebouwd. Met zowat 6.500 werknemers is Volvo Car Gent de grootste industriële werkgever van Oost-Vlaanderen.

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      Interesting that it only applies to 2019 and newer models.
      And I know that the system works on my 2018 XC60.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Holeydonut View Post
      Here's the Volvo VIN search to find any recalls on your vehicle.

      https://www.volvocars.com/us/own/add...ll-information

      EDIT: sorry this link may only work for North American buyers. I think this only searches recalls registered with NHTSA.
      MY US 2020 XC90 T8 VIN returns:

      No Recalls

      Number of Open Recalls: 0

      I don't know when my car was built...

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      Check the black metal plate on the inside of the drivers side door frame. It will give you VIN, Tire Pressure etc info as well as the month and year of manufacture.
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      No recall for my 2019 XC60
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      Give it some time guys.

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      Of course there is no recall, first the administrator must create a database on the server with all the VIN numbers relating to Volvo models that have this problem
      They need to get that information from the Volvo factory and create a database
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      Guys just a warning ... I have a 2018 S90 inscription.

      The dealer done the latest update early march, 2020. I confirm that the emergency braking function is not as effective as before the update. I tried multiple occasions where I'm sure I should get a warning, but no warning appeared from the system.

      For now, just take extra caution until Volvo give a clear statement regarding the issue, and if old models with the latest update are experiencing the issue as well.

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      Thank you for sharing this!!

      As the video showed, the car should give you an audible warning, but it will not apply the brakes because of the software issue.

      For my 2018 S90, I will need to double check if such exact fault exists. If not, the car should be okay...

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      I am guessing that Volvo and the NHSTA have not finished registering the problem at this point. Our 2020 has no open recalls.

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      Quote Originally Posted by das60 View Post
      I am guessing that Volvo and the NHSTA have not finished registering the problem at this point. Our 2020 has no open recalls.
      The recall applies to all 2019/2020 Volvo's sold in the U.S.. Recall notices to go out in May 2020.
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      Quote Originally Posted by ragu View Post
      The recall applies to all 2019/2020 Volvo's sold in the U.S.. Recall notices to go out in May 2020.
      I heard it was only October 2018+ production. My MY19 was produced before then and I was told it wasn’t affected.

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      Quote Originally Posted by p07r0457 View Post
      I heard it was only October 2018+ production. My MY19 was produced before then and I was told it wasn’t affected.
      Here's where I got my information:

      https://www.autoblog.com/2020/03/19/...gency-braking/
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      Quote Originally Posted by Nerd23 View Post
      Thank you for sharing this!!

      As the video showed, the car should give you an audible warning, but it will not apply the brakes because of the software issue.

      For my 2018 S90, I will need to double check if such exact fault exists. If not, the car should be okay...

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      I set the emergency braking (EB) to early warning and intervention. Yesterday I had one occasion and the EB worked. It gave me audible warning and it applied the brakes and stopped the car.

      My car is 2018 S90 with the latest update, March 2020.

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      2018s are not part of the recall

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      I have a V90CC (early 2019 model).. the auto break worked for me a few times:
      - sound warning
      - visual red sign on the heads-up-display
      - and break.. not so hard, but it breaks
      - (I'm not sure, but I think the steering wheel also moves a bit to try to avoid collision).

      So, I think I'm not affected ("I" had a software update last month)

      UPDATE: "...cars produced from Week 4 of 2019.." - I received my car on the first week of Feb.. so it means that was built before the 4th week of 2019 all good!
      Last edited by ru1; 03-20-2020 at 10:44 AM.
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      FWIW: My 2020 XC60 T8 (built week of 11/11/2019) was in for service the past several days, and when I picked it up this morning, they had proactively applied a Total System Upgrade which was for “Recall 29998: Total Upgrade Active Safety Domain (ASDM). Model years 2019-2020, S60, V60, V60CC, XC60, XC40, S90L, V90, V90CC, WC90.”

      I assume this is the recall being discussed here, so it can now be applied, although with COVID-19, YMMV as to availability of your local Service to actually do the work for awhile. My Service Advisor told me this is one of the first times he’s seen this recall come up (so IMO it appears to just be rolling out to US Volvo Service in prep for formal communication and the deluge of requests to come. Enthusiasts are just a little ahead of the curve as the info and detail fills out to all the national and service systems.)
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      Definitely noticed something was off after our last service that got the update which changed the autostart/stop logo etc. Remember telling my wife, haven't gotten any collision warning notifications in awhile and assumed they calibrated it more but there were a couple instances were i felt the audible warning should have been on but it wasn't.

      Always viewed this as a supplementary feature but in my mind wondered if the software updates messed something up. now we have an answer be safe everyone!

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      Quote Originally Posted by phil17 View Post
      Definitely noticed something was off after our last service that got the update which changed the autostart/stop logo etc. Remember telling my wife, haven't gotten any collision warning notifications in awhile and assumed they calibrated it more but there were a couple instances were i felt the audible warning should have been on but it wasn't.

      Always viewed this as a supplementary feature but in my mind wondered if the software updates messed something up. now we have an answer be safe everyone!
      Both of my Volvos have the 2019 update (Auto S/S logo change) and both have been in situations where the cars did the audible alert and applied brakes automatically (very prematurely, by the way). One of my cars really hates the grey car that's parked on the nearby street (it's quite a curved street, so the car thinks I'm going straight and going to hit that parked car, I guess?).
      So I think Volvo is doing this out of an abundance of caution (as they should). In any case, FCW is not a substitute for paying attention, as everybody knows and have pointed out.
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      Quote Originally Posted by rumyn View Post
      Both of my Volvos have the 2019 update (Auto S/S logo change) and both have been in situations where the cars did the audible alert and applied brakes automatically (very prematurely, by the way). One of my cars really hates the grey car that's parked on the nearby street (it's quite a curved street, so the car thinks I'm going straight and going to hit that parked car, I guess?).
      So I think Volvo is doing this out of an abundance of caution (as they should). In any case, FCW is not a substitute for paying attention, as everybody knows and have pointed out.

      That's reassuring to hear. Thank you. As it's mostly my wife's daily driver, safety is #1. Flip side is we're all home now due to Covid so hope everyone reading this forum is also safe and sound!

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      Quote Originally Posted by Holeydonut View Post
      Here's the Volvo VIN search to find any recalls on your vehicle.

      https://www.volvocars.com/us/own/add...ll-information

      EDIT: sorry this link may only work for North American buyers. I think this only searches recalls registered with NHTSA.
      Surprised my 2020 XC90 T8 is still not showing in this query... Has anybody's VIN shown recall yet?

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      Copying and pasting links are just re-production of the first article. The question to ask is what happened with the recall? Was this a recall or just a software update emergency recall?
      Cause due to covid-19 most are silent and no one has any concrete info as to what is going on.
      I'm asking because as mentioned earlier, if volvo recalls all 19-20 vehicles, then most of us here are affected..
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      I had the fix done already. My xc60 was being serviced anyway. They updated the software and that was all it took.

      I'm not driving that much these days for obvious reasons. However, other than some minor SENSUS interface changes, I've not noticed anything of significance.
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      I found this article on the NHTSA website. It gives the models and the range of VIN #s of the vehicles that are affected. Owner notifications will begin 05/01/2020. The VIN for my car is not on the list and my XC60 was manufactured in April/2019.

      https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/rcl/202...0V144-9786.PDF
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      Quote Originally Posted by Walkabout View Post
      I had the fix done already. My xc60 was being serviced anyway. They updated the software and that was all it took.

      I'm not driving that much these days for obvious reasons. However, other than some minor SENSUS interface changes, I've not noticed anything of significance.
      Were any settings lost after the software update?

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