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      2020 xc40 vs 2020 Subaru Forester comparison

      Just curious if anyone has cross-shopped a Forester with an xc40. If you can overlook the obvious lineage differences, it appears that prices are coming down on the xc40 making it more aligned with the still cheaper Subaru. Have anyone of you been blown away by today's good deals making the decision that much easier? Share some prices if you can.

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      What are your thoughts between the two? Especially seat and ride comfort and noise.

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      We actually just shopped these two last week asking the same questions. We ultimately bought the XC40. The Forester Touring was quite nice. Great seat quality. Good infotainment. Comes stock with a lot of features. We live in the mountains and the XC40 T5 was significantly better going up hills. It was also just a bit more luxurious. With that said, the Forester had more space and was surprisingly nice for the price point. We negotiated $6k off the forester (Build it on the Subaru site and request more info from the dealer on the last page and Subaru will automatically send you an extra coupon). We negotiated $4.8k off the XC40. I’d test drive both. Doesn’t seem like you can go wrong.

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      Does the Forrester come with a turbocharged engine option? If no, then itís an easy answer... Volvo XC40 all day.
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      the current generation of the forester has a 2.5 4 cyl naturally aspirated engine that is a little less pokey compared to the outback. however, the previous generation of the forester had the turbo option but now the baton had been passed to its the bigger sibling, the outback. The turbo on the xc40 makes the driving experience more enjoyable and less fatiguing. waiting for a bigger incentive on the xc40 because it seems to be a overall better package. thanks esnichols1 for sharing your thoughts and pricing info.

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      When I was looking at the XC40 (which I bought), I also considered the Mazda CX-3. The problem was that the Mazda didn't have an upgraded engine option. Perhaps I've been spoiled, but the driving experience was almost painful with the standard engine in the Mazda. It seems to be a common issue with a lot of the non-luxury brands - they offer a lot of the bells and whistles but save money on the powertrain.

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      I have look passed mazdas because of their frustrating non touch infotainment platform.

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      I have a 2018 Forester XT turbo ( $37,000 loaded). It was the last year the forester had the turbo. I also have a 2019 XC40 Momentum ($41,000 stripped). The performance , suspension etc is the same. I like the steering better on the XC40. The Forester costs me double what the XC40 costs to insure. Not sure why. IMHO Subaru made a mistake in stopping the turbo option for the Forester. They made their performance minded customers angry but they might not care as they sell three times as many non turbo foresters. For off road and snow I think the Forester has the advantage because it does not have as low a profile tire as the XC40. Back then the forester was the better buy but now that they don't offer a turbo version anymore it's XC40 all the way. - Kris
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      Seems like an odd cross-shop, since the Forester is substantially bigger. The XC40 would be more similar to the Crosstrek in size.

      As people have pointed out before, the Forester no longer comes in XT guise, which means the sole engine option is a wheezy NA 2.5L. It's one of the slowest crossovers in its segment (0-60 is something like 8.5 seconds, which puts it somewhere between a Corolla and a Prius), and it really struggles at altitude or going up grades.
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      2020 xc40 vs 2020 Subaru Forester comparison

      Quote Originally Posted by fiatlux View Post
      Seems like an odd cross-shop, since the Forester is substantially bigger. The XC40 would be more similar to the Crosstrek in size.

      As people have pointed out before, the Forester no longer comes in XT guise, which means the sole engine option is a wheezy NA 2.5L. It's one of the slowest crossovers in its segment (0-60 is something like 8.5 seconds, which puts it somewhere between a Corolla and a Prius), and it really struggles at altitude or going up grades.
      I have a current gen Crosstrek which is even slower than the Forester. Driving it then driving our 2015.5 XC60 T5e with Polestar makes the XC60 feel like a rocket. However we have no complaints with ours. In fact I prefer its drivetrain because itís smoother and quieter, though Iím in the minority because I like CVTs. I also donít live at an altitude.

      We are considering replacing the Crosstrek with an XC40 at lease end. We find the Forester too big for our needs. Iíd go Crosstrek again if it had a seat extension like the XC40 and Forester.
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      I have a 2019 XC40 Momentum loaded up with everything it could have. My wife drives a 2017 Forrester Touring loaded up with everything it could have had. I really really like the Forrester a lot. The boxer engine brings an inherent smoothness to it. It has tons of space and I'm confident it'll run forever. As for the XC40, I wanted something a little more luxurious and something a little different. I see Forresters so often that I don't even see them anymore (like the guy in the clock shop who can't hear the chimes). Plus I think the XC40 is a much better looking car. The XC40 also has better tech than was offered on the Subaru. Finally, Subaru doesn't offer overseas delivery whereas when I bought the Volvo my wife and I got a trip of a lifetime!

      Seriously tho, you really can't go wrong with either car. It truly is a matter of personal preference.
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      i agree that both cars are great. Having said that, I would probably go with the one with the better incentives since their pricing is within striking distance of each other. Curious if anyone is getting any awesome deals on the XC40 in the last couple of months.

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      So I work for a Volvo dealership. The company that owns my dealership also owns a Subaru dealer so I drive some Subarus occasionally. I actually drove a Crosstrek today which has a very similar interior layout to the Forester which I've also driven. Subaru has improved substantially over these past few years. Their interiors are much nicer places to be. But for me, there's no comparison between it and a Volvo. Any Volvo model blows a Subaru out of the water in my opinion. I can't get past the jerkiness of Subarus. You lightly tap the gas pedal and it jumps forward like it's gonna take off (not smooth at all and awkward when driving through a parking lot). Then you have the droning which is caused by that CVT which just makes it more unpleasant to drive. I even find the steering weird; I constantly have to make tiny corrections to keep the car in lane. Yes, while many people say new Volvo are boring and numb to drive, they're so smooth and easy to operate which isn't something I can say for the Subaru. Aside from the driving experience, I think Volvo implements technology and design better as well.

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      Quote Originally Posted by volvoxc9008 View Post
      while many people say new Volvo are boring and numb to drive, they're so smooth and easy to operate which isn't something I can say for the Subaru. Aside from the driving experience, I think Volvo implements technology and design better as well.
      I have never heard anyone say Volvos are boring or numb. I find a lot of people don't know the XC40. Volvo doesn't advertise it. I mostly see XC90s on the road. My forester is loaded and I have never had a problem with anything. It all just works. My XC40 is stripped and I am glad it is after reading some of posts on this forum with all the problems people are having, the latest being a sun roof bulge. I agree the Volvo has the nicer design than the Subaru. If you think the volvo is the better driving car it should be. It costs more. My forester with everything was $37,000 . I have seen XC40 inscriptions with a sticker of $45,000. That's a big difference. But again now that Subaru has dropped the turbo option for the forester I would not consider it anymore. - Kris
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      Quote Originally Posted by krislu View Post
      I have never heard anyone say Volvos are boring or numb. I find a lot of people don't know the XC40. Volvo doesn't advertise it. I mostly see XC90s on the road. My forester is loaded and I have never had a problem with anything. It all just works. My XC40 is stripped and I am glad it is after reading some of posts on this forum with all the problems people are having, the latest being a sun roof bulge. I agree the Volvo has the nicer design than the Subaru. If you think the volvo is the better driving car it should be. It costs more. My forester with everything was $37,000 . I have seen XC40 inscriptions with a sticker of $45,000. That's a big difference. But again now that Subaru has dropped the turbo option for the forester I would not consider it anymore. - Kris
      If you look at a review of any new Volvo, the reviewers almost always says the steering is numb and the engine noise is subpar making for a more boring drive compared to the competition. I don't necessarily agree with this but can see why people feel this way. For me, on my commute through a busy city, I'd much rather drive something comfortable and easy to drive like a Volvo than something "fun."

      Volvo doesn't advertise as much as some manufacturers. But when the XC40 debuted they certainly had a lot of Ads for it. When the XC40 Recharge debuts there's certainly going to be more to come.

      Lastly, the price tag on each is definitely a big difference. I've seen a few XC40's on the lot for well over $50k. For me a T4 Momentum (equipped up to $42k) is WELL worth the upgrade over a Subaru. When you factor in the design, the amount of features you get, the small details (ex. 12 way power seats in XC40 which you won't find in Subaru), full LED headlamps, pano sunroof, customization, uniqueness, driving experience; I could list numerous more reasons. The XC40's price difference is definitely justified for me at least.

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      Quote Originally Posted by volvoxc9008 View Post
      If you look at a review of any new Volvo, the reviewers almost always says the steering is numb and the engine noise is subpar making for a more boring drive compared to the competition. I don't necessarily agree with this but can see why people feel this way. For me, on my commute through a busy city, I'd much rather drive something comfortable and easy to drive like a Volvo than something "fun."

      Volvo doesn't advertise as much as some manufacturers. But when the XC40 debuted they certainly had a lot of Ads for it. When the XC40 Recharge debuts there's certainly going to be more to come.

      Lastly, the price tag on each is definitely a big difference. I've seen a few XC40's on the lot for well over $50k. For me a T4 Momentum (equipped up to $42k) is WELL worth the upgrade over a Subaru. When you factor in the design, the amount of features you get, the small details (ex. 12 way power seats in XC40 which you won't find in Subaru), full LED headlamps, pano sunroof, customization, uniqueness, driving experience; I could list numerous more reasons. The XC40's price difference is definitely justified for me at least.
      I have seen a lot of reviews on you tube for the XC40 and I don't remember any complaining about the steering but it doesn't matter as I am sure there probably are some. I personally don't think the Recharge is going to sell whether Volvo advertises it or not. I think it will be to expensive. I am glad you think a well equipped T4 is justified but for a lot of people it is not. My Forester is AWD and a T4 is not and it has LED headlamps and a pano sunroof. Having said all this I am getting rid of my Forester and keeping my XC40. I can't keep both ($$$) and I do prefer the XC40. What I would like to see is Volvo to lower the price on the XC40 and compete with the likes of Subaru and they will blow away the competition. - Kris
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      Us Volvo sales guys must have a fine tuned radar for offensive journalism as I too find the "numb" complaint on some reviews. Occasionally a customer comments. It's certainly softer than a BMW and I think the pulling rather than pushing changes the feel a little bit... but if you're buying an XC40 to race... well I hope you've got some other mods planned too! Reviews often compare to what the reviewer likes for a 10 minute drive more than what it's like to live with long term as the target customer base.

      Last year the XC40 was in very short supply. Still R design and Inscription models are not plentiful.. .but they are not longer selling for MSRP. Additionally last year Volvo excluded them from many programs, while they are generally viewed as another model offered this year. In our region the purchase rebate is $1000 and dealers are more flexible on pricing.
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      Quote Originally Posted by DFrantz View Post
      but if you're buying an XC40 to race... well I hope you've got some other mods planned too! Reviews often compare to what the reviewer likes for a 10 minute drive more than what it's like to live with long term as the target customer base.

      Last year the XC40 was in very short supply. Still R design and Inscription models are not plentiful.. .but they are not longer selling for MSRP. Additionally last year Volvo excluded them from many programs, while they are generally viewed as another model offered this year. In our region the purchase rebate is $1000 and dealers are more flexible on pricing.
      I think you hit the nail on the head here. The XC40 I don't believe was meant to race. It kinda has that race car look with the low profile tires though. Funny, I have seen a Forester with wide and low race tires on it that was on a flat bed being towed that had a huge dent in the left front quarter panel. Whoever own it modified it for racing. I don't know what and or if it had any other mods done to it. I don't remember my dealer ever having R designs on the lot. a few Inscriptions but mostly Momentum's. Kris
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      Quote Originally Posted by krislu View Post
      I think you hit the nail on the head here. The XC40 I don't believe was meant to race. It kinda has that race car look with the low profile tires though. Funny, I have seen a Forester with wide and low race tires on it that was on a flat bed being towed that had a huge dent in the left front quarter panel. Whoever own it modified it for racing. I don't know what and or if it had any other mods done to it. I don't remember my dealer ever having R designs on the lot. a few Inscriptions but mostly Momentum's. Kris
      No street legal/factory Volvo is meant for racing. The new Polestar S60 isnít crazy fun to drive. Yes, it may be quick in a straight line, but steering is still super artificial. Watch any review comparing a Volvo to its European competitors and the reviewers will always say the Volvo isnít as fun to drive. They only after 3 and 4 cylinders in their cars. Anyone whoís looking for a fun luxury daily should look at BMW, Mercedes, Alfa or even Acura. Volvo does luxury and safety best which are my main priorities in a vehicle.


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      Quote Originally Posted by volvoxc9008 View Post
      No street legal/factory Volvo is meant for racing. The new Polestar S60 isnít crazy fun to drive. Yes, it may be quick in a straight line, but steering is still super artificial. Watch any review comparing a Volvo to its European competitors and the reviewers will always say the Volvo isnít as fun to drive. They only after 3 and 4 cylinders in their cars. Anyone whoís looking for a fun luxury daily should look at BMW, Mercedes, Alfa or even Acura. Volvo does luxury and safety best which are my main priorities in a vehicle.


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      Anyone looking for an suv for racing or daily performance street fun should be looking at a Porsche Cayenne. For me, the XC40 is fun enough. - Kris
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      Quote Originally Posted by krislu View Post
      Anyone looking for an suv for racing or daily performance street fun should be looking at a Porsche Cayenne. For me, the XC40 is fun enough. - Kris
      I totally agree


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      When I drive automatic using "comfort" which is rare, it is totally different compared to my normal of paddle shifting my R in Polestar. A Cayenne in the mountains of Norway was able to keep up, but was not able to do any better, or pass for that matter.
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      Quote Originally Posted by cogtooth View Post
      When I drive automatic using "comfort" which is rare, it is totally different compared to my normal of paddle shifting my R in Polestar. A Cayenne in the mountains of Norway was able to keep up, but was not able to do any better, or pass for that matter.
      That's saying something considering a Cayenne costs much more than an XC40. - Kris
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