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      2016 XC90 - 6mo 5,000 mile oil change interval??

      Hi, I just took in my 2016 XC90 Inscription for the first paid 4th year service (where the first three were complimentary) and my Volvo dealer told me once you hit this kind of age (4 years) and mileage (for me, 30k)... Volvo recommends upping the oil change interval to every 5,000 miles or 6 months (instead of 10,000 miles/1 year). Is there any merit to this claim?

      I actually did email VCNA and they stated "factory interval is still 10,000 miles" but was wondering what others thought on this forum. Thanks in advance!

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      Officially it is 10k/1year only for the life. Some do it before to be on "safer" side but I don't understand why we need to go out of factory recommended schedule

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      No. That is that dealer trying to get you in more often. The interval does not change.

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      I feel it has a lot to do with the kind of driving you do. If you idle a lot or drive short distances and rarely go on the freeway, or do a lot of towing then a more frequent interval might make sense. But as Tech noted, the factory recommends the 10,000 mile or 1 year which ever comes first. I do not plan on keeping my car past the warranty as the new XC90 will bow as an all electric. If on the other hand you were planning on keeping this car for 5 to 7 years or more, then I would probably go for a more frequent oil and filter change schedule. I do in fact change the oil myself in-between the once a year service. If you do your own oil change then we are talking only about Between $50 and $75 extra. My other car is the Acura NSX which has a 3.5 liter twin turbocharged engine with about 500+ hp. The engine (block, and heads are forged by Cosworth and probably adds $75,000 to the car's price. The Pro GT3 Race version runs the exact same engine. The oil change costs $300+ and has 8 oil plugs that must be removed. The body panels need to come off so that you can access the plugs. This requires that the car be on a lift. Where as I can crawl under the XC90 and reach the drain plus and filter. I cannot get the NSX high enough to allow me to change the oil myself. The NSX also has a 1 year, 10,000 miles or if the maintenance minder says it is time. I drive the NSX about 4000 miles per year and change it twice a year. While I love the XC90, I will change it out for the all electric 2022 version. The NSX on the other hand will only be sold when I can no longer drive it or am dead, which ever comes first.
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      Quote Originally Posted by drmanny3 View Post
      I feel it has a lot to do with the kind of driving you do. If you idle a lot or drive short distances and rarely go on the freeway, or do a lot of towing then a more frequent interval might make sense. But as Tech noted, the factory recommends the 10,000 mile or 1 year which ever comes first. I do not plan on keeping my car past the warranty as the new XC90 will bow as an all electric. If on the other hand you were planning on keeping this car for 5 to 7 years or more, then I would probably go for a more frequent oil and filter change schedule. I do in fact change the oil myself in-between the once a year service. If you do your own oil change then we are talking only about Between $50 and $75 extra. My other car is the Acura NSX which has a 3.5 liter twin turbocharged engine with about 500+ hp. The engine (block, and heads are forged by Cosworth and probably adds $75,000 to the car's price. The Pro GT3 Race version runs the exact same engine. The oil change costs $300+ and has 8 oil plugs that must be removed. The body panels need to come off so that you can access the plugs. This requires that the car be on a lift. Where as I can crawl under the XC90 and reach the drain plus and filter. I cannot get the NSX high enough to allow me to change the oil myself. The NSX also has a 1 year, 10,000 miles or if the maintenance minder says it is time. I drive the NSX about 4000 miles per year and change it twice a year. While I love the XC90, I will change it out for the all electric 2022 version. The NSX on the other hand will only be sold when I can no longer drive it or am dead, which ever comes first.
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      I change the oil every 5k miles on all our vehicles. For XC90 DIY, see link in my signature. It can be very inexpensive, synthetic oil is available for as low as $12 for a 5qt jug. (Costco)

      Once I get too old to crawl on my belly I'll pay the dealer to do it, every 10k miles.
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      We live in the desert and yesterday it was 111 degrees driving home, and 170 degrees on the asphalt. IMO, that qualifies as hard driving/harsh climate, so I change the oil every 5-6,000 miles. 1 year/10,000 miles is nonsense. I mass order Volvo filters and use good synthetic oil. It costs me less than $60 per oil change. Just need the right tool for the oil filter housing and a torque wrench.

      When it comes to the most important maintenance procedure for a car, the last thing I want is being charged $200-$300 for an underpaid lube tech to change the oil for a $50k+ car.

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      I'm sure this thread will continue for weeks debating oil change intervals, like every oil thread. But the question was whether it is true or not that Volvo recommends a different service interval after the 30k service. That has been answered, here as well as by Volvo Customer Care.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Tech View Post
      I'm sure this thread will continue for weeks debating oil change intervals, like every oil thread. But the question was whether it is true or not that Volvo recommends a different service interval after the 30k service. That has been answered, here as well as by Volvo Customer Care.
      Tech, you are exactly right. I believe this would be less of an issue if we had more experience with high mileage on our SPA cars. The 2 liter engine especially when supercharged and turbocharged is very impressive with its output power. I think a lot of us are concerned that we do not have a lot of data on high mileage cars. I would like to think that these engines will go like a Toyota/Honda, but I just do not know. The fraternity of 100,000 mile SPA cars is still probably small. When I was more active in consulting I would teach companies about Predictive Maintenance where data rules the day. The computer algorithms attempt to capture the consumption of the oil. Most in the know organizations use all sorts of sensors to capture issues before they materialize. Sending out samples of oil for analysis over a period of time and various driving scenarios would ultimately provide the information so that intelligent decisions can be made. Given that an oil change is so relatively cheap it almost begs the questions why bother. I know that fleet owners will test their vehicles oil to insure it is still providing the functionality that is required. There pulling a vehicle out of use is costly. Most of us are mere mortals, so spending extra for an oil change seems like the easiest way to go. Also since I no longer am being called upon to Hunt and Gather, changing my oil gives me a little bit of comfort and the ability to Grunt in front of my significant other.
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      My only input would be if Volvo truly believed in shorter oil change intervals, there'd be every incentive to recommend them. It's not like Volvo, or any other business, wants to pass up opportunities to make money. So while the data might not be in, if Volvo truly believed every 5,000 was necessary, it'd be no state secrets.

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      Incorrect as far as official documentation.. but it will prevent you from noticing any oil consumption. But I would just check the oil on the screen dipstick at 5k... if needs some ask them to top it off (or buy the correct oil and do it yourself). Consumption will be noticed more with a 10k oil change on any car. The oil itself will still be good for 10k, but the more miles it has, the more oil will be consumed by worn rings.
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      Quote Originally Posted by drmanny3 View Post
      Tech, you are exactly right. I believe this would be less of an issue if we had more experience with high mileage on our SPA cars. The 2 liter engine especially when supercharged and turbocharged is very impressive with its output power. I think a lot of us are concerned that we do not have a lot of data on high mileage cars. I would like to think that these engines will go like a Toyota/Honda, but I just do not know. The fraternity of 100,000 mile SPA cars is still probably small. When I was more active in consulting I would teach companies about Predictive Maintenance where data rules the day. The computer algorithms attempt to capture the consumption of the oil. Most in the know organizations use all sorts of sensors to capture issues before they materialize. Sending out samples of oil for analysis over a period of time and various driving scenarios would ultimately provide the information so that intelligent decisions can be made. Given that an oil change is so relatively cheap it almost begs the questions why bother. I know that fleet owners will test their vehicles oil to insure it is still providing the functionality that is required. There pulling a vehicle out of use is costly. Most of us are mere mortals, so spending extra for an oil change seems like the easiest way to go. Also since I no longer am being called upon to Hunt and Gather, changing my oil gives me a little bit of comfort and the ability to Grunt in front of my significant other.
      I think it's been answered with Volvo's history on prior generations. Volvo has had long service intervals for quite some time. Plus Driv-E engines have been around far longer than SPA and their intervals have been fine. In my experience with prior Volvos and with my parents' 2015 XC60 with Driv-E T5 4cyl, Volvo's recommended oil changes, particularly if using high quality oils as recommended by Volvo, their engines do great with 7500 or 10000 intervals as per their manuals.

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      My only input would be if Volvo truly believed in shorter oil change intervals, there'd be every incentive to recommend them. It's not like Volvo, or any other business, wants to pass up opportunities to make money. So while the data might not be in, if Volvo truly believed every 5,000 was necessary, it'd be no state secrets.
      Right! Plus it would be in the dealer's interest for shorter intervals for more frequent visits which if considered, 10k is likely a compromise between longevity, dealer interest, requirement for other maintenance items to be reviewed, and actual oil life. Consider that Tesla calls for annual/12,500mi service intervals. Their cars certainly don't need oil changes and when you actually look at what service they do, it really only needs filter, brake fluid changes, etc about every 2 yrs. So why 12.5k? Trying to get customers in and sure they may check systems but in truth that car doesn't really need a service visit to report an issue. My point is 10k is probably conservative and a good balance already.
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      OP here, many thanks to everyone's insights and perspectives, what a great community this is!

      Especially appreciate Tech and drmanny3's invaluable expertise that only years/decades of experience can bestow.

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      Since we only put about 6,000 miles a year on our V90, I'm more concerned with calendar-time oil deterioration. So I change oil and filter once a year.

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      Quote Originally Posted by VolvoUhu View Post
      Right! Plus it would be in the dealer's interest for shorter intervals for more frequent visits which if considered, 10k is likely a compromise between longevity, dealer interest, requirement for other maintenance items to be reviewed, and actual oil life. Consider that Tesla calls for annual/12,500mi service intervals. Their cars certainly don't need oil changes and when you actually look at what service they do, it really only needs filter, brake fluid changes, etc about every 2 yrs. So why 12.5k? Trying to get customers in and sure they may check systems but in truth that car doesn't really need a service visit to report an issue. My point is 10k is probably conservative and a good balance already.
      Dealers clearly have incentive to bring customers through their doors. Maintenance and service gives dealerships routine interaction with customers, and the ability to promote new vehicles. So I see zero incentive for a dealer to minimize their contact with the consumer. Leading me to believe the choice of 10,000 miles for an oil change is sound science. Coupled with the fact that Volvo doesn't want to garner a reputation for unsound vehicles that are known to fail prematurely. So if 10,000 miles is what Volvo Recommends, I trust their judgement.

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      Quote Originally Posted by MyVolvoS60 View Post
      Dealers clearly have incentive to bring customers through their doors. Maintenance and service gives dealerships routine interaction with customers, and the ability to promote new vehicles. So I see zero incentive for a dealer to minimize their contact with the consumer. Leading me to believe the choice of 10,000 miles for an oil change is sound science. Coupled with the fact that Volvo doesn't want to garner a reputation for unsound vehicles that are known to fail prematurely. So if 10,000 miles is what Volvo Recommends, I trust their judgement.
      just like their lifetime oil in the tranny?

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      Quote Originally Posted by jnusaputra View Post
      Quote Originally Posted by MyVolvoS60 View Post
      Dealers clearly have incentive to bring customers through their doors. Maintenance and service gives dealerships routine interaction with customers, and the ability to promote new vehicles. So I see zero incentive for a dealer to minimize their contact with the consumer. Leading me to believe the choice of 10,000 miles for an oil change is sound science. Coupled with the fact that Volvo doesn't want to garner a reputation for unsound vehicles that are known to fail prematurely. So if 10,000 miles is what Volvo Recommends, I trust their judgement.
      just like their lifetime oil in the tranny?
      Yep. The Aisin 8 speed is invincible! The laws of physics, including friction, has totally changed in the past 10 years. No longer needed 🤡

      On a side note to that, one dealer here in Phoenix refused to change the ATF fluid at 60,000 miles. Another agreed to it, but recommended only if there's been hard driving and towing. Off roading in Silverton and driving in the desert climate of Phoenix in general qualifies, IMO. I understand that hooking a pump up to the trans cooler may not replace *all* the fluid, but it's something.

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