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      Its been a bad week for the Volvo fleet

      The black S70 blew a head gasket last week. Then my son tells me this am that the S60 clutch pedal is stuck at the floor with no back pressure. I notice a lot of fluid underneath the car. Appears the slave cylinder failed, no noticeable leaks by the master. Im pretty sure its the original clutch with 198K miles. Now the debate of to fix or dump. The engine still runs strong, its a 01 T5M which are somewhat rare but its not a late model T5M. The car is a 10 footer and not mint by any means. Sucks that the slave is internal so the whole tranny needs to be pulled and dropping the sub frame. My gut says don't shell out 500 for parts and all the time it would take me (ive never done a clutch job before) on a car with such high mileage that's not in mint condition. He's starting at the University of Utah next month and will need reliable transportation. Currently there are no decent Volvos for sale locally, at least any that are manual. What would you guys do ?
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      As much as you would want to save the 01 T5M, it may be time to cut your losses. I think $500 may be the low end of what it would take to repair everything on your own, not counting your time and headaches. After fixing the clutch, the question would be, what big ticket $ item will fail next? You'll be fighting that never ending battle.

      That said I would fix it. Does that make any sense? haha.
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      Are you going to be able to find another reliable car that costs $500? You know the t5m will be reliable after the clutch. Might be worth it to invest a little more into it. Cause if you buy another car for him, you might have to put work into the new one as well.


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      Both valid points. I have put a decent amount of time and parts on this car and don't want to see it off to the JY. I just wish i could pull the tranny out the side, a little spooked of dropping a sub frame on my chest. Im going to sleep on it for a few days before making any decisions.
      01 S60 T5M Black, middle sons
      00 S70 GLT Black, youngest sons
      01 E46 325 XI Touring Silver, Wifes, totalled, bought back, repaired
      00 S70 GLT5 SE Moondisaster, T5 Swap, MINE !

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      Fix it. Good learning experience and not that hard. It will be more expensive than that because you need a new clutch and flywheel BUT if it’s early enough you can use an 850 single mass and 850R clutch. Still going to be cheaper than finding something new that has unknown issues.
      2003 V70 T5 - Mystic/Graphite - M56LK - 206k - K24/Greens/Do88/Quaife/SMF/P2R Clutch/DW300C/H&R/Bilstein TC/316mm & 308mm Brakes - SteveO Tuned
      1999 V70 T5 - Pewter/R Graphite & Alcantara - AW42 - 299k - Daily/Work Wagon
      1999 V70 T5 - Nautic/R Graphite & Alcantara - M56H - 177k - Rescued
      1999 V70 T5 - Emerald/Graphite - M56H - 119k - Garage Queen
      2000 V70 T5 - Mystic/Graphite - AW42 - 243k - Moms Unicorn
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      I would be inclined to repair the 01 T5M, unless there is significant body rust, or the interior is beyond help. It could easily go 4 more years. If you are going to remove the transmission, might as well rebuild the turbo at the same time, since you will have access to it.

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      I was reading about the clutch job recently, it seems it's not only a big job, but can also lead to poor results if everything is not done correctly and with the right parts. Try reading the link about pre-adjusting and centering the clutch, parts that need replaced - you will probably need to replace the flywheel as well from fluid contamination.
      However if time and tools are not a problem, I actually like the getting experience idea. If you junk it you get $200, if you fix it, it's still good for few years. However, given the age and the risks involved with this job, my take on this would be to pull the clutch parts from a junkyard if you can find 2-3 manual cars, chances are you may get lucky with parts that have been replaced lately. And at the junkyard is not that hard to pull the engine as they have engine cranes. It's a minimalist approach (as in minimizing the eventual loses). For new parts, Tasca has quite decent prices for genuine
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      Yikes, the flywheel is 650.00 bucks alone (from Tasca) FCP has a all in one clutch/flywheel kit that's back ordered with no ETA. Then another 350 for the clutch kit. And sort of confused after reading many posts saying you need special tools to set the spring compression and some people stating the new kits come preloaded ?? Can anyone confirm the preload issue. On a side note, i did a bandade fix on the S70 head gasket issue. Since there was no milkshake or smoke, i used some BarLeak head gasket repair. Knock on wood its been holding for a week now. So the 16yr old that drives it said, "hey dad, scrap the S60, pull the T5 engine, fix the clutch and put it into my LPT Automatic S70. One thing at a time Son.
      01 S60 T5M Black, middle sons
      00 S70 GLT Black, youngest sons
      01 E46 325 XI Touring Silver, Wifes, totalled, bought back, repaired
      00 S70 GLT5 SE Moondisaster, T5 Swap, MINE !

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      The flywheel can be had for considerably less. Figure out if you have a 20 or 23 spline trans as well cause that alone cuts the price by half again.
      2003 V70 T5 - Mystic/Graphite - M56LK - 206k - K24/Greens/Do88/Quaife/SMF/P2R Clutch/DW300C/H&R/Bilstein TC/316mm & 308mm Brakes - SteveO Tuned
      1999 V70 T5 - Pewter/R Graphite & Alcantara - AW42 - 299k - Daily/Work Wagon
      1999 V70 T5 - Nautic/R Graphite & Alcantara - M56H - 177k - Rescued
      1999 V70 T5 - Emerald/Graphite - M56H - 119k - Garage Queen
      2000 V70 T5 - Mystic/Graphite - AW42 - 243k - Moms Unicorn
      2000 S70 GLT SE- Mystic/Graphite - AW42 - 218k - Sisters

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      Quote Originally Posted by ScottishBrick View Post
      The flywheel can be had for considerably less. Figure out if you have a 20 or 23 spline trans as well cause that alone cuts the price by half again.
      Do i have to pull the tranny and count the splines ? Vida says i need this clutch kit. Does this tell you if im 20 or 23 splines ? https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/vol...255-01#reviews

      Edit, i just took a close up picture of the FCP prduct picture and counted the splines. This clutch kit has 20 splines
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      01 S60 T5M Black, middle sons
      00 S70 GLT Black, youngest sons
      01 E46 325 XI Touring Silver, Wifes, totalled, bought back, repaired
      00 S70 GLT5 SE Moondisaster, T5 Swap, MINE !

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      Last 6 of your vin. VIDA lists the spline count split.
      2003 V70 T5 - Mystic/Graphite - M56LK - 206k - K24/Greens/Do88/Quaife/SMF/P2R Clutch/DW300C/H&R/Bilstein TC/316mm & 308mm Brakes - SteveO Tuned
      1999 V70 T5 - Pewter/R Graphite & Alcantara - AW42 - 299k - Daily/Work Wagon
      1999 V70 T5 - Nautic/R Graphite & Alcantara - M56H - 177k - Rescued
      1999 V70 T5 - Emerald/Graphite - M56H - 119k - Garage Queen
      2000 V70 T5 - Mystic/Graphite - AW42 - 243k - Moms Unicorn
      2000 S70 GLT SE- Mystic/Graphite - AW42 - 218k - Sisters

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      Im on my way, probably good to go through this process, 2 of the engine mounts were in bad shape. And the bearing on the passenger drive shaft is not spinning freely, ughh. Can that bearing be replaced by a drive shaft company ? Guessing not. I need to get a 12 point torx for the flyweel bolts, are they standard or reverse threaded ?

      01 S60 T5M Black, middle sons
      00 S70 GLT Black, youngest sons
      01 E46 325 XI Touring Silver, Wifes, totalled, bought back, repaired
      00 S70 GLT5 SE Moondisaster, T5 Swap, MINE !

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      A great photo! The last time I took off a clutch pressure plate, it was on a Saab 95, and the bolts were right hand thread.

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      Its been a bad week for the Volvo fleet

      The flywheel bolts are normal thread. It’s not torx it’s XYZ or triple square.
      2003 V70 T5 - Mystic/Graphite - M56LK - 206k - K24/Greens/Do88/Quaife/SMF/P2R Clutch/DW300C/H&R/Bilstein TC/316mm & 308mm Brakes - SteveO Tuned
      1999 V70 T5 - Pewter/R Graphite & Alcantara - AW42 - 299k - Daily/Work Wagon
      1999 V70 T5 - Nautic/R Graphite & Alcantara - M56H - 177k - Rescued
      1999 V70 T5 - Emerald/Graphite - M56H - 119k - Garage Queen
      2000 V70 T5 - Mystic/Graphite - AW42 - 243k - Moms Unicorn
      2000 S70 GLT SE- Mystic/Graphite - AW42 - 218k - Sisters

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