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      Likely purchase of 2017

      My wife and I are thinking of getting a 2017 s60 awd. Open on time except the base (anything above is fine) We're people who keep our vehicles well over 100k. Is the 2.0 turbo reliable? Also, is there a difference in reliability of that engine between the t5 and t6 versions? Does anyone out there have over 100k on these and can comment? If you don't have that many miles, any advice and heads up on your personal maintenance experience would be appreciated. Thanks everyone!

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      I've seen a few posts from tech's on here that are servicing SPA XC90's with well over 100k on the clock so there's that. The 2015.5 and early 2016 had oil burning issues so by 2017 you should be good.

      I would imagine the T5 would tend to be more reliable long term because there isn't a supercharger to worry about and there have been some failures of the supercharger bypass valve but we're still pretty early in being able to get anything more than just anecdotal evidence.

      IMHO a used S60 Inscription AWD is a really good value right now.
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      What ever you do, I would suggest getting the extended warranty..

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      I’m driving a 2018 T6 R Design with 25,500 miles and no issues so far. I’m also hoping to keep this car as long as possible. My first Volvo and really liking the car.


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      Here's a good overview of problems associated with this generation of Volvo sans engine and transmission.
      The history books are still being written on the 4 cylinders; the Toyota transmission is shared across lots of brands and have yet see any major issues.

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      Maybe it's just me, but I've noticed more issues on the Chinese-made Inscription spec models. I feel like every time I get a loaner and it's an Inscription, there are some annoying rattles or the strut mounts are noisy or something feels loose. Granted I've only driven two separate Inscription models but both were under 50k miles...

      My 2017 R-Design is about to hit 70k and thankfully no issues so far other than the stop start not working as well as it used to which, as most people on this forum will tell you, might be a good thing! Haha.
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      Thanks everyone for your great responses! What year did they switch from 5 and 6 cylinder to the 2.0 4 cylinder?

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      Quote Originally Posted by RYJS60 View Post
      What ever you do, I would suggest getting the extended warranty..
      Why is that?

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      I have one of those Chinese inscriptions. Not a loaner. I bought it new. The only problem I had was the radiator cap at 30k miles. The car has been fine other than that.
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      Quote Originally Posted by thejas View Post
      Thanks everyone for your great responses! What year did they switch from 5 and 6 cylinder to the 2.0 4 cylinder?

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      It's a little confusing as it depends on whether the car is front wheel or all wheel drive.

      The front wheel drive models moved to the 4 cylinder first I think in 2015 and then the AWD cars followed in 2017 with the exception of the R Design which made the transition from a six cylinder to a four cylinder midway through 2016. I'm going from memory so somebody please correct me.
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      Repairs are costly, It's just piece of mind. I would not purchase a used volvo w/o the extended warranty.

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      Quote Originally Posted by RYJS60 View Post
      Repairs are costly, It's just piece of mind. I would not purchase a used volvo w/o the extended warranty.
      Repairs can be costly from the dealer but if you know a good local indy things can get much more reasonable. If you're handy and spin the wrenches yourself the costs go down much faster :-) All that said my wifes T6 XC60 had a warranty to 100k and we never used it. Not once. Ours was a certified pre-owned model. That vehicle only needed regular maintenance which was dealer performed under contract with a free loaner included. She is harder on cars than I am and didn't want me pealing the maintenance onion on her or hearing my comments regarding wear and tear. I tend to find things when I get under the hood and start poking under the guise of "while I'm here I may as well...." Now that the cars maintenance plan is up it's time to peal
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      Didn't learn from the 2005s repair bills and brought home a second. I'm a glutton for punishment I guess

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      I agree, I can do a lot of the work myself, but I don't have a place. Parts for these cars are not cheap. I had a 2012 S60, I had to replace the front axles.. cost.. over 1k. the parts cost 1k for OEM

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      I have a 2017 S60 T5 AWD Dynamic. Up to 38k miles now with no issues. I had a bit of sticker shock when I got my insurance bill, but other than that it's been a pretty good car so far.
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      My wifes 2017 t5 FWD inscription had few issues. We do like the car esp extra room in the back. We had 2014 t5 with no options at first and there were no room in the back at all esp when i am driving i am 6.1. This 2017 deff big difference. 2014 had no issues at all. Here the issues for 2017 since new. At about 10k Sensus system keept freezing and rebooting. Software update helped for like 2k-3k. Than we were driving from upstate NY to NJ and GPS went nuts. It was thinking that the car is driving 10 ft away from the road and it kept saying to drive to highlighted route. So we used the phone to get back home. Than at home i noticed that back up camera didnt go on when i was backing up. 2nd update was done to the sensus. at 20k the driver side hub bearing started making whining noise if you drive 40mph steady . Took dealer 3 month to change it since at first the noise was intermittent Than when they did herd the noise they still refuse to believe it was a hub. Took few more weeks for them to admit and change the hub. At 38k the passenger side hub started to make noise. We were back to square one they didnt hear the noise again we opened case with volvo corp who closed the case next day cuz dealer didnt hear any noise. Again after a month hub was changed (magically noise is gone. since same guy test drove the car before and they still were refusing to change 2nd one ) . the car has now 40k and had visit back to the dealer since the coolant started to leak on trans becaouse one of the hoses broke. The sensus kept rebooting with the error the it cant communicate with the screen module. hose was replaced and another soft update was done. Volvo deff need to work on costumer service and on more quality control. Otherwise the car had no big issues so far just those small and annoying once . I dono if it is cuz of china or something else since 2014 had not a single issue.
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      I bought a certified 2016 S60 back in February of 2019 with 28k miles. It now has 48k. Problems I've had have been a leaky sunroof caused by a dirty wind deflector (covered under factory warranty) and a faulty passenger airbag sensor which if I recall correctly was a $3k repair (covered under extended warranty). I have the 7 year 100,000 mile extended warranty which I would also recommend buying from Volvo.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Pauls90 View Post
      I dono if it is cuz of china or something else since 2014 had not a single issue.
      That is an advantage for the Dynamic model....it is not made in China.
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      as to the OPs question, the T6 is the one to go with. It has a timing chain and no belt or tensioner worries. Get a T6 certified with a protection plan and you've got more peace of mind. Repairs if needed are expensive on Volvo unless you know a good foreign indy shop to save on potential repair costs.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Highwayman View Post
      as to the OPs question, the T6 is the one to go with. It has a timing chain and no belt or tensioner worries. Get a T6 certified with a protection plan and you've got more peace of mind. Repairs if needed are expensive on Volvo unless you know a good foreign indy shop to save on potential repair costs.
      2017 all came with new Edrive they all with belt. at list the once i saw. I dont think E-drove uses chains.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Pauls90 View Post
      2017 all came with new Edrive they all with belt. at list the once i saw. I dont think E-drove uses chains.
      He must be talking about the six cylinder T6 cars that had timing chains, though the last model year for them was either 2015.5 or 2016 depending on the model.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Wayne T5 View Post
      He must be talking about the six cylinder T6 cars that had timing chains, though the last model year for them was either 2015.5 or 2016 depending on the model.
      Yep .
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      We found the opposite. My wife's 17 Inscription at 50K miles was way better put together then my 15.5 V60.
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      I read "somewhere" online that Volvo's CEO stated that their Chinese plants had the highest quality scores of all Volvo assembly plants.

      As for my personal experience, in 4+ years and 44K miles of driving my 2016 S60 Inscription, the only repair needed (excluding 10K services and recalls) was replacement of the 12v battery just before the warranty expired. The original battery was made in the USA, while the dealer installed replacement was made in Germany.

      Regardless of where they are assembled, most vehicles have parts that are sourced around the world.
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      We have 22k miles on our '17 S60 Inscription Platinum (purchased as a dealer owned CPO car with 5K miles), and it has been a trouble free ownership experience so far. Just minor recalls (door latches, seatbelt cable) and a battery that was replaced free of charge.

      We've really enjoyed it, and generally keep our cars for 10ish years, so are hopeful it remains relatively trouble free.
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      THIS!

      Quote Originally Posted by RobertK View Post
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      Regardless of where they are assembled, most vehicles have parts that are sourced around the world.

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      IMO it matters HOW the vehicle is assembled, not just the source of parts. Seems like people's experiences are varied so maybe it's just been my luck.
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      I want to thank you all for your responses. Does anyone know which specific models are assembled where? I'd prefer avoiding china. Also for the record, awd is required for us. How's the older t5 turbo motor (5 cylinder) as far as reliability?

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      Quote Originally Posted by thejas View Post
      I want to thank you all for your responses. Does anyone know which specific models are assembled where? I'd prefer avoiding china. Also for the record, awd is required for us. How's the older t5 turbo motor (5 cylinder) as far as reliability?

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      IIRC only the Inscription (ie long wheel base) models were manufactured in China.I would have no qualms about buying one of these but that's just me. The Inscription gives you a usable back seat if that matters.

      There are TJ's in place for oil burning on the old five cylinder motors as well (as the four cylinders that I referred to earlier).
      Past: '94 854, '99 S70 T5 SE, '99 S70 GLT, '04 S60R M, '12 S60 T5, '13 S60 T5, '15 S60 RD, '05 V70R GT
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      Quote Originally Posted by Wayne T5 View Post
      IIRC only the Inscription (ie long wheel base) models were manufactured in China.I would have no qualms about buying one of these but that's just me. The Inscription gives you a usable back seat if that matters.

      There are TJ's in place for oil burning on the old five cylinder motors as well (as the four cylinders that I referred to earlier).
      Back seat doesn't matter. What's a tj?

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      Quote Originally Posted by thejas View Post
      Back seat doesn't matter. What's a tj?

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      TJ = Technical Journal
      Equivalent to a TSB (Technical Service Bulletin) you might see with other manufacturers.
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      Quote Originally Posted by thejas View Post
      Back seat doesn't matter. What's a tj?

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      Then get a T6 - 2014-2015.5 are good.
      Past: '94 854, '99 S70 T5 SE, '99 S70 GLT, '04 S60R M, '12 S60 T5, '13 S60 T5, '15 S60 RD, '05 V70R GT
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      Quote Originally Posted by gobluetwo View Post
      TJ = Technical Journal
      Equivalent to a TSB (Technical Service Bulletin) you might see with other manufacturers.
      Does this mean it would be fixed for free or just that they are aware of it? Was there a recall?

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      Quote Originally Posted by thejas View Post
      Does this mean it would be fixed for free or just that they are aware of it? Was there a recall?

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      It's not a recall and the issue is not fixed for free unless the car is under warranty. There are examples of goodwill being offered outside of the warranty period if the vehicle has been routinely serviced by Volvo, customer has bought several cars from the dealership, etc.

      My understanding is that a TJ is written when there is a higher incidence of a particular issue or problem occurring and simply provides guidance to the dealers as to the range of vehicles possibly effected and instructions for repair.

      Recalls are typically reserved for items related to safety like the Takata airbag recall and Volvo's recent recalls for door latches and seat belts.
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      Quote Originally Posted by thejas View Post
      I want to thank you all for your responses. Does anyone know which specific models are assembled where? I'd prefer avoiding china. Also for the record, awd is required for us. How's the older t5 turbo motor (5 cylinder) as far as reliability?

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      I like to avoid China not because of quality but because their human rights violations are enormous. I believe my Dynamic model was built in Bulgaria or some place like that.
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      Quote Originally Posted by leftoverture View Post
      I like to avoid China not because of quality but because their human rights violations are enormous. I believe my Dynamic model was built in Bulgaria or some place like that.
      Bulgaria human rights not so much better or any former USSR countries.
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