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      Time for some NSFW guidelines -- ALL USERS READ THIS!!!

      We have seen an increase is Not Safe For Work (NSFW) posts. I believe that there exists a gray area of material that is not necessarily appropriate for people to view while at work, but not so inappropriate that it violates Swedespeed Forum Rules.

      I would encourage all users to label questionable threads with a "NSFW" tag so those of us at work will know to wait until we're home to view the thread.

      Please note: simply adding NSFW to your thread title does NOT make it ok to violate Swedespeed Forum Rules.

      I posted a link to the forum rules above. As Swedespeed Members, it is YOUR responsibility to know the rules and obey them. As a moderator, it is my responsibility to enforce those rules via deletion of posts/threads, reduction in user ratings, temporary banishment, and ultimately permanent banishment.

      Please make sure that all posts remain within the guidelines of the Forum Rules.

      Thank you!

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      Re: Time for some NSFW guidelines -- ALL USERS READ THIS!!! (R Salesman)

      My employer blocks SS. Seems that forums are not safe for some kinds of work.
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      Re: Time for some NSFW guidelines -- ALL USERS READ THIS!!! (24Hours)

      Quote, originally posted by 24Hours »
      My employer blocks SS. Seems that forums are not safe for some kinds of work.

      bummer


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      Re: Time for some NSFW guidelines -- ALL USERS READ THIS!!! (R Salesman)

      Quote, originally posted by R Salesman »
      I would encourage all users to label questionable threads with a "NSFW" tag so those of us at work will know to wait until we're home to view the thread.

      Isn't this more of a morality issue?

      Why is it necessary to label a post with NSFW. Surely most people go to work to do just that - work.

      It never enters my head to spend time accessing SS during working hours simply because I consider it would be stealing paid time from my employer to do so.

      Perhaps I'm wrong - maybe others see it as quite acceptable work practice these days.


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      I agree Volgrrr, shurely if someone has the gall to be using company computers, on company time to be doing something so frivolous, like reading endless quantities of virtually useless postes, and responding to sed postes. Ether owns or manages the company or dose not care about there jobs. In either case the content is irrelevant.



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      Some people, myself included, like to browse the internet during lunch breaks, when the other option is to sit at his cubicle desk and stare at a gray panel. I can look at a forum, but not porn. "NSFW" would help that, as this forum is not blocked.

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      I work in IT and I can assure you, most people do just that. They surf from work from the time they get there, til the time they leave. It is now common place for me to install net nanny on my clients networks to keep the employees off of game sites and porn sites.

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      Quote, originally posted by ViriiGuy »
      I work in IT and I can assure you, most people do just that. They surf from work from the time they get there, til the time they leave. It is now common place for me to install net nanny on my clients networks to keep the employees off of game sites and porn sites.

      Even with your assurance most people do just that - it still doesn't make it right.

      Apart from the morality of it, people would soon start whinging if employers started to dock wages every time an employee surfed the internet seeking out material that did not contribute anything toward their actual day-to-day employment.


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      You can look at it that way, or you can look at it a different way. Besides the fact that US labor law requires 3 breaks in an 8 hour workday, when you're on salary, you're paid to do a job regardless of how many hours it takes. You're expected to put in extra hours when needed, and if you don't need them you have extra time to goof off. Other people get paid to determine what your job is and if you're doing it. If they're happy, surf away. If not, you better start busting some butt.

      I have a boss who literally says "I don't care if you spend 6 hours a day surfing porn in your office, as long as you're getting your job done". But he's also really good at loading us up with work.

      I mean, do you think your company is stealing from you when you have to work on saturday?

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      Re: (LloydDobler)

      i'm reading all this from work right now...

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      Quote, originally posted by deerok »
      i'm reading all this from work right now...

      Me too... not sure how Websense filters forums/message boards, but I have zero issues accessing Swedespeed; most other forums are blocked without question. Only problem I have with SS is Websense blocks all the pics in posts
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      Re: Time for some NSFW guidelines -- ALL USERS READ THIS!!! (R Salesman)

      Well, I read your NSFW as it's most important.... AND I agree totally.

      Many readers above have expressed their dislikes and likes about threading during work hours.


      I have a few question for all.

      "If a person was sent to jail would it be considered okay to surfing during sentence time?"

      "If ones workload is the highest priority - in other words - it comes first before all else - is it okay to surf afterwards?"

      "If the latest medical neurological studies say that surfing is the most proven beneficial way to increase the growth of brain cells and you then stop surfing would you be considered neurotic?"

      "Is there any wording in our constitutions or state/provincial labour laws that might restrict "freedom of speech" that could be overlayed in the workplace in regards to surfing?"

      "Are there any presidenting cases or studies that have already been ruled upon - re: surfing?"

      "Is it okay to work overtime without pay OR help out the employer in times of need or those special deadlines for the benefit of all, for nothing?"


      Hope you can fit this in within your busy schedule of life as we know it.

      Respectfully


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      Re: Time for some NSFW guidelines -- ALL USERS READ THIS!!! (stev vanveit)

      Quote, originally posted by stev vanveit »
      Well, I read your NSFW as it's most important.... AND I agree totally.

      Many readers above have expressed their dislikes and likes about threading during work hours.

      The 'dislikers' probably work at places without lunch breaks or coffee breaks.

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      Re: Time for some NSFW guidelines -- ALL USERS READ THIS!!! (ss60)


      Okay all you surfers..... you're gonna love this.

      BUT - Be careful when you surf.

      Enjoy!!!!!

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      Re: Time for some NSFW guidelines -- ALL USERS READ THIS!!! (R Salesman)

      Not for nothing your boss doesn't pay you to visit Swedespeed while you are at work, unless you are your own boss! So why put a NSFW warning on something when you clearly should be working and not leisurely
      visiting your car forum.

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      Re: Time for some NSFW guidelines -- ALL USERS READ THIS!!! (crimnlmnded)

      Quote, originally posted by crimnlmnded »
      Not for nothing your boss doesn't pay you to visit Swedespeed while you are at work, unless you are your own boss! So why put a NSFW warning on something when you clearly should be working and not leisurely
      visiting your car forum.

      Some employers allow a certain amount of personal web-surfing during the day on company resources (network, pc) as a morale maintenance item. Don't be so fast to judge.


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      Re: Time for some NSFW guidelines -- ALL USERS READ THIS!!! (2k2S80t6)

      This article is the latest on the topic from an Employment lawyer point of view.

      I would like to point out from an Employee point of view that there has to be sufficient quantitative work in order to keep staff fully occupied - all the time. However, many companies are not that diligent either due to the nature of work or normal delays in operational processes that are beyond their control.

      There is no law as such in anti surfing other than court cases against wrongful dismissal where attention to ones task has been used as evidence. But these cases are for senior management not the normal worker as they would just be fired or disciplined accordingly.


      Employers must beware of the time wasters
      Ways to make staff accountable for time away from the office

      Howard Levitt, Financial Post
      Published: Wednesday, May 20, 2009

      Employees surfing Facebook cost employers more than $5-billion a year, according to a recent study.

      However, cruising social networking sites and chat lines are only some of the myriad ways in which employees steal their employers' time.

      Truancy, tardiness and absenteeism all constitute time theft from an employer, but so does engaging in unauthorized personal activities during business hours.

      Although the courts have not yet treated it as strictly as the other time issues, the consequences are equally onerous.

      Close monitoring of employees is often the only effective method to prevent such daily dalliances. Many employers delude themselves into believing micro-management is unnecessary. They are the ones most likely to be victimized.

      The reality is few employees share their employers' dedication to their jobs. The statistics are illuminating: workplace theft exceeds $120-billion; fraud costs $20- billion; and embezzlement runs $4-billion.

      Time theft is particularly rampant in sales positions where there is minimal employee supervision or accountability.

      This is especially true if there is a guaranteed salary and the employees have considerable autonomy and are frequently out of the office, purportedly to prospect or meet clients. In reality, some of these employees are not meeting with clients or otherwise filling their sales funnel but are playing golf, spending time with their families or otherwise fulfilling personal agendas. This can be avoided by offering a primarily bonus- and commission- based remuneration.

      Employers should also implement systems requiring accountability, such as calendars delineating out-of-office appointments, including who the employee is meeting with and why; meetings with sales employees to suggest appropriate followup for each appointment; and sanctioning employees who are either dishonest in their renditions or fail to meet their quotas for appointments and sales.

      As well, do not permit employees to work from home except in the most extraordinary of circumstances.

      Although teleworking is the flavour of the times, in my experience, most employers quickly regret approving it as they see productivity sag and accountability disintegrate.

      Those who are permitted to telecommute should be placed on an entirely performance- based remuneration.

      Employer policy manuals should have zero tolerance for employee theft, with specific reference to time theft.

      The recession has created an employers' market, which makes it much easier for them to replace indolent employees with productive ones.

      TO AVOID LOSSES FROM THE ONSET, EMPLOYERS SHOULD DO THE FOLLOWING:

      - Place more weight on commission and bonuses than on a guaranteed base salary;

      - Implement a system of reporting and accountability so employers are aware of employees' whereabouts during work hours;

      - Implement and circulate a zero-tolerance policy on employee theft, encompassing time theft; and,

      - Provide disciplinary sanctions, including termination, for employees who fail to adhere to a reasonable system of accountability.

      - Howard Levitt, counsel to Lang Michener LLP, is an employment lawyer who practises in eight provinces and is author of several texts, including The Law of Dismissal for Human Resources Professionals, recently released. He can be reached at [email protected] langmichener.ca.

      © The Windsor Star 2009


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      Re: Time for some NSFW guidelines -- ALL USERS READ THIS!!! (stev vanveit)

      As a point of clarification, this is in reference to Canadian law.

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      Re: Time for some NSFW guidelines -- ALL USERS READ THIS!!! (2k2S80t6)

      I couldn't find anything that controversial state side as of yet. Good point though.

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      Re: Time for some NSFW guidelines -- ALL USERS READ THIS!!! (stev vanveit)

      I can only access this site from one of my computers, and I'm my own boss, go figure.

      Seems if you don't allow certain ad providers and/or web surfing spies this site won't load properly. Says something like "your browser has a content filter" when in fact my browser doesn't. I do have a rather lengthy hosts file that redirects a whole lot of garbage to 127.0.0.1 though. Funny thing is I see the forum load and then I get the message, so I'm sure it's not the forum itself. Must be the company Swedespeed uses as a website provider or one of the banner ad companies I guess.

      EDIT: The hosts file entries I use on all my computers that can't access this site can be found at the bottom of this page: http://www.4crito.com/block_google.html


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      Re: Time for some NSFW guidelines -- ALL USERS READ THIS!!! (Crito)

      Awesome. Here we are in the 21st century working under 19th century labor laws, and some of you are evidently quite happy with that.
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      If I stop reading the forum when I am on the clock then how will I gain the knowledge to work on my car during my lunch break?

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      the point here was long missed... whether you go on SS while working or not...its a car forum. If you're posting the volvo wet tshirt contest pics just put NSFW. NSFW has been around since the beginning of the internet that basically means adult content, so whether you're on the clock, in the office off the clock, on break, or in YOUR kitchen with a 7 year old sitting next to you... its good to know. Worry about your job, ill worry bout mine (i made $11 in the time it took to read and reply to this thread, you just wish you had my job lol :0)

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      Ha, not only does this site's stickys see few clicks, the one in the OP for Forum Rules... https://forums.swedespeed.com/zerothr...id=60865#60865

      Is 404

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