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      Reflecting on differing tastes...or, "poor Volvo product planners"...

      I have been watching the reactions to the new wood trim for the 2008 model, and to the new oak like interior of the S40/V50. Being of European origin, for me, matte (oil-finished) wood is perceived as high quality, classy. When I first arrived to the US I was put off by the shiny wood finish, which I perceived to be "plastic, fake".<p>I showed the oak interior pictures to my daughter, and she liked it. Myself, I see in it "young, cheerful", while to the US consumer this seems to mean "cheap".<p>Having grown on European furniture, where Scandinavian designed furniture was an object of admiration, I do like these interiors. For the American consumer though, Scandinavian furniture seems to be mainly the "cheap stuff you buy at Ikea". So, I see why the American driver feels otherwise. My empathy for Volvo's US product planners - hope they hired locals!<p>For the record, I will swap my shiny 07 wood trim with the 08 trim with anyone interested.<p>PL<p>

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      Re: Reflecting on differing tastes...or, "poor Volvo product planners"... (PLavee)

      <TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>PLavee</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">&lt;snip&gt;<p>For the record, I will swap my shiny 07 wood trim with the 08 trim with anyone interested.<p>PL<p></TD></TR></TABLE><br>Talk to your dealer/salesperson - they may be interested in a swap (or at the very least would perhaps consider keeping your offer in mind as an option for their next applicable customer...
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      Re: Reflecting on differing tastes...or, "poor Volvo product planners"... (bschurr)

      I drove an 08 T6 and an 07 V8 yesterday and had the chance to compare the wood directly. <p>Personally, I really liked the look and feel of the 08. It looks like wood, feels like wood, and is eye-catching.<p>The glossy wood on the 07 is fine with me too...much better than what you see on some cars these days... If I were able to, I'd get the 08 wood, though -- it definitely reinforces that swedish styling, which is one of the things that attracts me to the volvo. It's not the type of styling I use in my house, but it fits the interior of the car, to my way of thinking.<p>It's all going to be personal preference...

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      Re: Reflecting on differing tastes...or, "poor Volvo product planners"... (PLavee)

      Seems Infiniti on its M sedan and Mercedes on the S class has tried matte wood in the U.S. with not much success and we go for shiny, glossy wood. I find the shiny stuff a distraction to driving as it reflects in the window area and does look a bit fake. While I like the idea of the s40's wood, something about the color of it doesn't work for me with the black interior. Not so sure about the light interior either, but works with the greenish one in the v50. What I'd like Volvo to do is expand the interior colors of all their cars and then offer more wood stains, shiny or nongloss. Also, concerning the c70 interior, use a unique, richer wood for its center floating console as the dash still looks too similar to the s40 for my tastes.

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      Re: Reflecting on differing tastes...or, "poor Volvo product planners"... (PLavee)

      Most "Wood" in most cars is fake wood or laminated.<p>Even Lexus/BMW/Mercedes do not use real wood.<br>Best you will find is laminated stuff.<p>Regards,<br>Coolknight

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      Re: Reflecting on differing tastes...or, "poor Volvo product planners"... (Coolknight)

      <TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Coolknight</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Most "Wood" in most cars is fake wood or laminated.<p>Even Lexus/BMW/Mercedes do not use real wood.<br>Best you will find is laminated stuff.<p>Regards,<br>Coolknight</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Mercedes use real wood on the E-class, CLS, SL, S-class, M, GL and CL.<p>Yannis

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      Re: Reflecting on differing tastes...or, "poor Volvo product planners"... (KeystoneVolvo)

      Laminated wood is real wood, just piled and glued together. It's not whether the wood is real, it's how refined the finish is. Even some veneers have fine finishes.<p>Audi 6 and 8, Jaguar XJ , and the higher-level s80s used fine woods with refined finishes. I don't believe Lexus skimps on the quality of their woods and are superbly finished, especially in the LS. On this pic of the s80's interior, the wood does not appear to be laminated:<p><A HREF="https://www.swedespeed.com/gallery/gallery3.php?mode=view&album=/FWD%20and%20AWD/S80%20Mk%202/Interior&pic=004.jpg&start=&dispsize=800" TARGET="_blank">https://www.swedespeed.com/gall...e=800</A>

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      Re: Reflecting on differing tastes...or, "poor Volvo product planners"... (PLavee)

      <TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>PLavee</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I was put off by the shiny wood finish, which I perceived to be "plastic, fake".<p>Myself, I see in it "young, cheerful", while to the US consumer this seems to mean "cheap".</TD></TR></TABLE><br>I'm with you 100%. Not only does the "modern" (as Volvo chose to call it) wood in the 2008 make the car more unique (as I cannot think of another one with a similar trim), but it's also WAY more beautiful in my opinion. Classier, if you will. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://**********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">

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      Re: Reflecting on differing tastes...or, "poor Volvo product planners"... (Razor1973)

      Personally I dislike it but...<br><B>It's FAR worse</B> in the S40 and C70 than in the S80.<br>I think a compromise would be look the best.<br>Remove the wood (not too hard) and put a couple of coats of clear urathane over it, lightly sanding between coats (or whatever you do with wood)!<br>Professionally and properly done this wouldn't be as glossy as the 07 wood but would be richer looking than the stock 08 wood.<p>(Doesn't the 08 V8 S80 still have the gloss style wood)?
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      Re: Reflecting on differing tastes...or, "poor Volvo product planners"... (JRL)

      <TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JRL</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Professionally and properly done this wouldn't be as glossy as the 07 wood</TD></TR></TABLE><br>You're assuming people prefer glossy. I don't. Matte is a nice, welcome change that makes your trim unique.<p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JRL</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><B>It's FAR worse</B> in the S40 and C70 than in the S80.</TD></TR></TABLE><br>I'm with you on that. The wood on these models definitely looks like an afterthought. Different, yes, but definitely looks glued on. And that little piece on the door... It simply doesn't belong there. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://**********************/smile/emthdown.gif" BORDER="0">

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      Re: Reflecting on differing tastes...or, "poor Volvo product planners"... (JRL)

      Yup,the 08 S80 V8 still has the glossy wood.<br>It actually has more wood this year.<br>Like the Euro Spec Exec.
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      Re: Reflecting on differing tastes...or, "poor Volvo product planners"... (VolvoMax)

      After having had an XC90 T6 (MY 04) with the "glossy" wood trim, I know how easy it was to keep clean. So, on the MY 08 S80 3.2 and T6 equipped with the so-called Modern wood trim, has "anything" been applied to the wood to keep it from absorbing oily "stuff", such as that usually left behing from human finger contact? <p>I do a lot of woodworking and a good deal of it is with red oak - <I>relatively </I>cheap out here in CA. I know for a fact that red oak is a highly porous wood and if left in its natural state, will most certainly look grungy in a short amount of time. Is the Volvo Modern wood oak? Has it been "finished"?

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